Official Module Campaign?

[Bagpipe]

Just bought this module and am feeling let down to see it has no campaign.

 

When I tried it in the free trial it had at least a "sample campaign" or something in there so I figured you'd get a real campaign or two when/if you bought it.

 

And no...I do not accept that the Maple Flag campaign being available is substitution for the lack of included campaign as I have the MF campaign for the hornet and it sits gathering dust to be honest.

 

It's the same with the spitfire, I had to go and buy a campaign...

 

There's no consistency of product with the modules.

 

When can we expect a free campaign for the modules that are lacking them ED?

 

If there is one in the pipeline then fine, I have never really read much on the F5 forum as not owning the module till now.

[Rudel_chw]

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There's no consistency of product with the modules

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For your next purchase, you should really go with a bit of due-dilligence and research before you buy, to avoid this kind of frustration.

[Bagpipe]

For your next purchase, you should really go with a bit of due-dilligence and research before you buy, to avoid this kind of frustration.

 

I did, I bought 90% of the available modules and 90% come with at least some kind of campaign or work in progress campaign.

 

The F5 has been around for a long time and has... nada.

 

And as I said the free trial event showed a campaign of some description which LED ME TO BELIEVE there would be a campaign included.

 

My apologies for not delving through the archives to see if one existed but i can't imagine how a new user buying their first module would feel when they got the F5 and found the same only to be retorted on the forums with such a petty argument as yours.

[Bagpipe]

Listen...she's a beauty and I am always happy with the DCS modules (barring one, maybe two 3rd party modules) but you can't help but feel a tiny bit cheated when you buy a module that's been around for a while and you have a tiny fraction of what other modules offer.

 

Look at the Hornet for example, it has missions coming out of every crevice...

[Rudel_chw]

... such a petty argument as yours.

 

Actually it was just a reasonable advice, as I wasn’t arguing with you ... however, don’t worry, I will take care no not intervene on your threads in the future. :noexpression:

[Bagpipe]

Actually it was just a reasonable advice, as I wasn’t arguing with you ... however, don’t worry, I will take care no not intervene on your threads in the future. :noexpression:

 

Meh...well I may have read too much into it as you gave me some stick recently elsewhere on the forums and I thought "oh here we go again...".

 

I stand by my points so far regarding the modules though, it would be lovely if ED spread the love around a bit more with the mission making. I love the 3rd party campaigns i have but i really like the official ones when they are available

 

No harm done man, i was just flying the L39 pattern mission which i believe you had a hand in so thanks for that at least (and the Jeff training too)

Edited July 4, 2020 by Bagpipe

[silverdevil]

there is this paid campaign

 

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/shop/campaigns/f-5e_aggressors_acm_campaign/

 

for the cost of what the pizza guy should get as a tip. i have heard this was pretty good.

[Bagpipe]

there is this paid campaign

 

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/shop/campaigns/f-5e_aggressors_acm_campaign/

 

for the cost of what the pizza guy should get as a tip. i have heard this was pretty good.

 

:thumbup: Yeah that's the maple flag one. I believe the hornet one is pretty much a copy paste job so not keen to buy it for F5 aswell. There's some community made campaigns which I am sure will be fun too but an official campaign should be included with all modules in my opinion. Especially with the more simple modules (systems wise etc.)

[TLTeo]

I did, I bought 90% of the available modules and 90% come with at least some kind of campaign or work in progress campaign.

 

 

This is wrong. I'm not sure about the A10C, CA, the Gazelle, Mi-8 and Ka-50, so I'll neglect those.

 

 

 

Out of every other module in DCS, the F-5, F-86, Mig-15, Spitfire, Dora, Anton, Mustang, Harrier, F16, L39, C101, Yak52, Christen Eagle, I-16 all do not come with a free campaign. That's (if I'm counting right) 14/24 modules , 14/29 if all the above I listed to have one.

[Bagpipe]

This is wrong. I'm not sure about the A10C, CA, the Gazelle, Mi-8 and Ka-50, so I'll neglect those.

 

 

 

Out of every other module in DCS, the F-5, F-86, Mig-15, Spitfire, Dora, Anton, Mustang, Harrier, F16, L39, C101, Yak52, Christen Eagle, I-16 all do not come with a free campaign. That's (if I'm counting right) 14/24 modules , 14/29 if all the above I listed to have one.

 

A10C has 4 campaigns, Gazelle has 1, Mi8 has 1, Ka-50 (i think) has 1 at least. so that's an extra 4 modules onto your 14 = 18 with campaigns.

I also commented that some are in progress such as the harrier which will have one, the f16 i would be amazed at not getting one also. But we wont include those as having one for now.

There are 24 modules excluding trainers (because why would they have a campaign for a trainer?) so 90% of 24 = 21.6

90% of 21.6 = 19.44

18 modules have campaigns so yes i was wrong by a margin of 8% I believe....:book::)

So okay "I bought 90% of the modules available and 82% of those have a campaign" is maybe more to the point.

(It's probably still not exact but it's better than it was)

 

 

Anyhoo, Thanks for pointing out all the modules lacking campaigns as the majority of them are ED modules so highlights the problem well.

I own the F5, F-86, Spitfire,Anton, Harrier, F16, Yak52 and I-16 so i will copy my post to each of those forum sections too i guess.

The other thing i would point out regarding your list is that most on there are retailing for $49.99 but the F5 retails for $59.99 so you would hope for a campaign for the extra $$.

Edited July 4, 2020 by Bagpipe

[Bagpipe]

Got the desert tiger 76 dynamic campaign on for now so will keep me busy but the hurt still remains.

 

ED has cut me deep

[bilbosmeggins]

Wait till you try the training missions. They are a barrel of laughs too. The main thing I learned from them was to get airborne as fast as you possibly can, before planes and vehicles alike start indiscriminately ramming you on the ground :D

[ngreenaway]

This is wrong. I'm not sure about the A10C, CA, the Gazelle, Mi-8 and Ka-50, so I'll neglect those.

 

 

 

Out of every other module in DCS, the F-5, F-86, Mig-15, Spitfire, Dora, Anton, Mustang, Harrier, F16, L39, C101, Yak52, Christen Eagle, I-16 all do not come with a free campaign. That's (if I'm counting right) 14/24 modules , 14/29 if all the above I listed to have one.

 

i just went fown the line and the following had free campaigns packed in the module: a10c,ajs37,k4,f14,f18,d9,jf17,ka50,m2k,mig21,mi18,mig19,p51d,gazelle,su25t,uh1, flaming cliffs

I dont have CA (i dont care to do DCS as an RTS)

some of these may be copy pasted, because theres the k4 challenge, the d9 challenge, and the p51 challenge.

I think it was on hoggit that nineline said he felf all modules *should* come with a packaged campaign

[Bagpipe]

i just went fown the line and the following had free campaigns packed in the module: a10c,ajs37,k4,f14,f18,d9,jf17,ka50,m2k,mig21,mi18,mig19,p51d,gazelle,su25t,uh1, flaming cliffs

I dont have CA (i dont care to do DCS as an RTS)

some of these may be copy pasted, because theres the k4 challenge, the d9 challenge, and the p51 challenge.

I think it was on hoggit that nineline said he felf all modules *should* come with a packaged campaign

 

Yeah sounds about right, not to mention that the Jeff is still a WiP campaign and so the Harrier should be considered so aswell although it has not been added to early access as yet.

The F16 will definately have one campaign at least but i will be extremely disappointed if they make it a payware addon considering the cost of the module

[silverdevil]

dont want to sound stupid, ... but what is "Jeff"? its my name and it kinda weirds me out. lol.

[PiratexCore]

dont want to sound stupid, ... but what is "Jeff"? its my name and it kinda weirds me out. lol.

It's a nickname for the JF-17.

[kengou]

I also felt kind of burned back when I bought this due to lack of campaign. If it cost $49.99 like Warbirds and Gen 1 jets I might be more understanding but it costs the same as modern jets (before prices went up on the newest releases). For how simple the aircraft actually is and how little content it has, it is not the same value as the Harrier or Mirage or Viggen for example.

[LordOrion]

:thumbup: Yeah that's the maple flag one. I believe the hornet one is pretty much a copy paste job so not keen to buy it for F5 aswell.

 

 

Well, no: you probably mean the "Aggressor BFM campaign", which is available for F-15C, F/A-18 and F-5E as well, however, the link posted by the other user is ACM campaign, which is currently available for F-5E only.

 

 

Also, I've played them, so I agree that all BFM campaigns are actually copy&paste of the same base campaign where the only change is the plane you fly. But dogfight on a F-5E is not the same as F/A-18C or F-15C: each plane has it own strong and weak points and despite to being a c&p those campaign are worth to be played IMHO.

 

 

 

Also, look at this: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=230124

The OP created a campaign which seems to become a paid DLC campaign in a while.

[Bagpipe]

Thanks, like i say i am not paying any more for dogfights i can set up in ME.

 

User campaigns can be great but doesn’t tackle the point that tge modules should include at least one campaign by the developer.

 

Hopefully it is on the to do list by 2025 or whenever

[Mango]

The new F5-E campaign Black Sea Resolve '79 is being prepared for official release. Hopefully we'll see this soon!

[SorelRo]

The new F5-E campaign Black Sea Resolve '79 is being prepared for official release. Hopefully we'll see this soon!

 

The Black Sea Resolve was ready since February/March. ED has all they need to release it, except maybe time to get it in the queue. Or however that process works.

 

The main reason I created this campaign was the fact that there was no campaign with the module.

 

Maybe one day....

[Bagpipe]

The Black Sea Resolve was ready since February/March. ED has all they need to release it, except maybe time to get it in the queue. Or however that process works.

 

The main reason I created this campaign was the fact that there was no campaign with the module.

 

Maybe one day....

 

Is the campaign available on the User Files section at the moment?

[SorelRo]

Is the campaign available on the User Files section at the moment?

 

Negative. You can't put a fully made campaign there. The maximum upload size is 100 Mb if i recall correctly. With skins, voiceovers missions, PDF's for planning you are looking at something close to 300 Mb, and this should be a DLC eventually.

[diogofalcao]

https://github.com/Khopa/dcs_liberation/

 

IMO, is the best dynamic campaign you can get.

[Bagpipe]

https://github.com/Khopa/dcs_liberation/

 

IMO, is the best dynamic campaign you can get.

 

TBH I have used liberation before. A while back. The missions were pretty stale. DCS AI just doesn't do dynamic too well yet