announced DCS MiG-29A

[Gierasimov]

Just occurred to me... Why was this thread moved to DCS core wishlist? Current Fulcrums aren't core. Interesting choice of forum section, given it started in Chit-Chat.

Edited June 27, 2022 by Gierasimov
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[upyr1]

8 hours ago, Gierasimov said:

Just occurred to me... Why was this thread moved to DCS core wishlist? Current Fulcrums aren't core. Interesting choice of forum section, given it started in Chit-Chat.

 

Eagle tends to put modules in core I believe it is becuse there is an AI asset in DCS core. 

[Gierasimov]

1 hour ago, upyr1 said:

Eagle tends to put modules in core I believe it is becuse there is an AI asset in DCS core. 

Still, FC3 and even MiG-29 separate module available. It does not matter anyways but it felt wierd...

[Gierasimov]

Enjoy the new video posted to YT. 

Polish Fulcrums 

 

[Gierasimov]

nullSoon Polish Fulcrums will be replaced - its time to get your hands on one dear ED

PS Latest word is that the replacement will be FA-50 null

[SovietAce]

On 7/29/2022 at 12:05 PM, Gierasimov said:

nullSoon Polish Fulcrums will be replaced - its time to get your hands on one dear ED

PS Latest word is that the replacement will be FA-50 null

 

Last I heard they wanted to replace them with F-35s. Replacing with FA-50 seems weird at best.

[Gierasimov]

7 minutes ago, SovietAce said:

Last I heard they wanted to replace them with F-35s. Replacing with FA-50 seems weird at best.

Getting both. Panthers are far away still on the assembly line, FA-50 are coming 2022/2023 the word has it.

[Rick50]

1 hour ago, SovietAce said:

Last I heard they wanted to replace them with F-35s. Replacing with FA-50 seems weird at best.

 

F-35 has capabilities, no doubt.  But it's expensive. And expensive to operate, maintain and so on. Not only that, but unlike every weapon before it, if you are suddenly in a conflict, America must approve...  It needs a direct datalink with Lockheed's systems in USA. All ELINT EW and recon data you collect on your mission goes straight to Lockheed USA. Need spares? No spares for you... when the datalink says black box 3c is failing, Lockheed will send you a new one.

The T-50 is a proven airframe. FA-50 is probably affordable. And good enough for smaller airforces with modest budgets but needing some punch. With the SAM threat in that current conflict, it might not make all that much sense to buy a giant fleet of super expensive jets when all can be vulnerable to shootdowns. Sure, F-35 is stealth and probably can sneak around better in high threat environment... but I also bet that at closer distances, at certain aspects, ( like a tail shot at shorter distances, especially as more missiles are gaining an IR seeker to aid the radar seeker/system), it's probably able to be shot down too. 

Lemme put it another way: if you  have been using the Fulcrum as your top frontline fighter jet into 2020 despite worries about actual war... you probably don't have the money to put into big expensive American jets that even US Taxpayers are questioning. Especially when you have a long list of other items to buy, like drones, Javalins and NLAWS by the thousands, HIMARS and GMLRS...  suddenly F-35's look like a Gucci handbag where an ALICE pack is what you want.

Edited July 30, 2022 by Rick50

[SharkWizard]

According to this there may be some extra longer waiting time for the 9-12

Depressing

 

 

[okopanja]

33 minutes ago, SharkWizard said:

According to this there may be some extra longer waiting time for the 9-12

Depressing

In the past 9.12 was known to have been upgraded.

It is not clear of Chizh is talking about base 9.12 or the upgraded variants.

[SharkWizard]

3 minutes ago, okopanja said:

In the past 9.12 was known to have been upgraded.

It is not clear of Chizh is talking about base 9.12 or the upgraded variants.

I absolutely hope your interpretation is most accurate 

[MiG21bisFishbedL]

I'd assume all variants.

[Dragon1-1]

On 7/31/2022 at 12:08 AM, Rick50 said:

The T-50 is a proven airframe. FA-50 is probably affordable. And good enough for smaller airforces with modest budgets but needing some punch. 

Isn't the FA-50 supposed to replace the Su-22? Polish ones are ancient, and like the Su-22, the FA-50 is a potent attack aircraft that fulfills a role that MiG-29 doesn't do terribly well and the F-35, while it's very capable, is first of all a fighter, and only has a single seat. Given that, the FA-50 can be actually more effective in frontline CAS roles (and certainly more cost-effective, given how expensive it for the F-35 to take even a rifle bullet), where flying low and dropping bombs will be more important than being stealthy.

F-35s will replace the MiG-29s, especially if they can figure out some hustle in order to get them cheap and send the MiGs to Ukraine. Their primary use would be air to air, as with the MiG, where their stealth would be most useful, and perhaps penetration strikes. SEAD can for most part be done by the Vipers.

[Kazansky222]

Any news or rumors on the Mig-29 status?

[F-2]

20 minutes ago, Kazansky222 said:

Any news or rumors on the Mig-29 status?

Temporarily suspended due to world events. ED is unsure if they will be able to do it anytime because of this. Third parties are still free to try if you and your friends are looking for a fun hobby to do together.

[Kazansky222]

7 minutes ago, F-2 said:

Temporarily suspended due to world events. ED is unsure if they will be able to do it anytime because of this. Third parties are still free to try if you and your friends are looking for a fun hobby to do together.

That sucks, do you have a link for that?

[F-2]

30 minutes ago, Kazansky222 said:

That sucks, do you have a link for that?

 

[Kazansky222]

2 minutes ago, F-2 said:

 

 

I don't see anything about Mig-29 9.12 being cancelled or put on hold. Only something about Soviet technology being ok, but newer Russian technology not being ok.

Am I missing something?

[Harlikwin]

1 hour ago, Kazansky222 said:

 

I don't see anything about Mig-29 9.12 being cancelled or put on hold. Only something about Soviet technology being ok, but newer Russian technology not being ok.

Am I missing something?

There is nothing official about it being cancelled. And actually that line between "soviet" and "russian" is actually pretty interesting and could actually be good news in many ways. Well I guess not if you want a modern flanker or something tho. 

[SharkWizard]

It looks like the thread has been modified since it was quoted so its no wonder its hard to decipher.

 

Perhaps there is still a possibility of a FF 9.12 from ED? 

 

 

 

[okopanja]

17 minutes ago, SharkWizard said:

It looks like the thread has been modified since it was quoted so its no wonder its hard to decipher.

 

Perhaps there is still a possibility of a FF 9.12 from ED? 

 

 

 

I recall seeing 9.12 there. I think Chizh did not intentionally mean it and perhaps edited the message later.

[BIGNEWY]

MiG-29 is still something we would like to do in the future, but we have no news to share currently. 

thanks

[Gierasimov]

2 hours ago, BIGNEWY said:

MiG-29 is still something we would like to do in the future, but we have no news to share currently. 

thanks

Thank you for chipping in mate. Much appreciated. 

[Gierasimov]

The first person to give all the following:

- airframe

- airforce

- bort number

- person depicted on tail fin 

gets that airframe in DCS as a gift - either current level or future (whenever that might be) full fidelity - your choice.

[Furiz]

36 minutes ago, Gierasimov said:

The first person to give all the following:

- airframe

- airforce

- bort number

- person depicted on tail fin 

gets that airframe in DCS as a gift - either current level or future (whenever that might be) full fidelity - your choice.

Its Poland MiG-29UB, showing Stanislaw Skalski, bort number is 4105 thnks

 

Ill wait for FF module

Edited September 9, 2022 by Furiz