Flappie Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 27 minutes ago, Snappy said: The Win 7/8 compatability mode is not really supposed to be the permament solution for this, is it? Of course not. Remember it's a beta. I really don't think ED plan to push this crash-bug into release. They want to fix it -as well as other important bugs like the second loading texture bug (which may be tied to this crash-bug when we think about it)- before pushing into release. 2 Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wali763 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 (edited) Hi. Just had a crash in Win8-mode. But its an "unsual", meaning maybe 5-10 min into a mission, so I dont think its related to the 2nd-mission-loading-crash. I got a Discord-message, hit ESC, tabbed-out and did somting in the browser too. When I wanted to go back to DCS a few min later , DCS had crashed and I got the crash-send-box. dcs.log Edited May 19, 2021 by Wali763 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FR4GGL3 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 (edited) We have a lot of nVidia Users here. So would anybody so kind to try the following: Go into the nVidia Control Panel. Go to "Sourround, PhysX" Menue. Switch the PhysX-Setting from "Auto" (which adresses the nVidia Card) to "CPU". As long as I have PhysX bound to CPU, I haven't had a 2nd Load crash like before. As soon as I switch back to "Auto" oder "GPU", the crashes start all over again. I could switch the crashes on and off via this setting on my machine. That must not be true for anybody else. But I think it would be worth a few Tests. Oh, and of course don't use the Compat. Mode while testing this as that wouldn't be the same. If the new Clouds use some kind of PhysX, that would make sense. At least for nVidia Users. Sorry that I can't test on AMD Hardware as I sold my Vega 64 a few months ago... Edited May 19, 2021 by FR4GGL3 1 14700K | MSI Z690 Carbon | Gigabyte 4090 Gaming OC | 64GB DDR5 6000 G.Skill Ripjaws S5 | Creative SoundBlaster X-FI Titanium HD on a Violectric V90 Headphone amp and Fostex TH600 Headphones | LG 42 C227LA & Samsung C32HG70 | TrackIR 5 | Virpil WarBRD with VFX Grip | Thrustmaster Warthog Throttle | VKB T-Rudder Pedals MK IV I only fool around the F-14 - and still having a hard time on it as there is so much to learn and so little time and talent. But I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flia Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, FR4GGL3 said: We have a lot of nVidia Users here. So would anybody so kind to try the following: Go into the nVidia Control Panel. Go to "Sourround, PhysX" Menue. Switch the PhysX-Setting from "Auto" (which adresses the nVidia Card) to "CPU". As long as I have PhysX bound to CPU, I haven't had a 2nd Load crash like before. As soon as I switch back to "Auto" oder "GPU", the crashes start all over again. I could switch the crashes on and off via this setting on my machine. That must not be true for anybody else. But I think it would be worth a few Tests. Oh, and of course don't use the Compat. Mode while testing this as that wouldn't be the same. If the new Clouds use some kind of PhysX, that would make sense. At least for nVidia Users. Sorry that I can't test on AMD Hardware as I sold my Vega 64 a few months ago... Very interesting. im going to test it too. Update : I test it right now and with PhysX settings sets to CPU and i crashed after first Shift+R in the DCS. Edited May 19, 2021 by Flia 1 PC: i7 9700K, 32 GB RAM, RTX 2080 SUPER, Tir 5, Hotas Warthog Throttle, VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Base with VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Grip, VKB-SIM T-RUDDER PEDALS MK.IV. Modules : NEVADA, F-5E, M-2000C, BF-109K4, A-10C, FC3, P-51D, MIG-21BIS, MI-8MTV2, F-86F, FW-190D9, UH-1H, L-39, MIG-15BIS, AJS37, SPITFIRE-MKIX, AV8BNA, PERSIAN GULF, F/A-18C HORNET, YAK-52, KA-50, F-14,SA342, C-101, F-16, JF-17, Supercarrier,I-16,MIG-19P, P-47D,A-10C_II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FR4GGL3 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Thx for the test. Sorry that it was a road to nowhere... 14700K | MSI Z690 Carbon | Gigabyte 4090 Gaming OC | 64GB DDR5 6000 G.Skill Ripjaws S5 | Creative SoundBlaster X-FI Titanium HD on a Violectric V90 Headphone amp and Fostex TH600 Headphones | LG 42 C227LA & Samsung C32HG70 | TrackIR 5 | Virpil WarBRD with VFX Grip | Thrustmaster Warthog Throttle | VKB T-Rudder Pedals MK IV I only fool around the F-14 - and still having a hard time on it as there is so much to learn and so little time and talent. But I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flia Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 45 minutes ago, FR4GGL3 said: Thx for the test. Sorry that it was a road to nowhere... No problemo PC: i7 9700K, 32 GB RAM, RTX 2080 SUPER, Tir 5, Hotas Warthog Throttle, VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Base with VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Grip, VKB-SIM T-RUDDER PEDALS MK.IV. Modules : NEVADA, F-5E, M-2000C, BF-109K4, A-10C, FC3, P-51D, MIG-21BIS, MI-8MTV2, F-86F, FW-190D9, UH-1H, L-39, MIG-15BIS, AJS37, SPITFIRE-MKIX, AV8BNA, PERSIAN GULF, F/A-18C HORNET, YAK-52, KA-50, F-14,SA342, C-101, F-16, JF-17, Supercarrier,I-16,MIG-19P, P-47D,A-10C_II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Is PhysX still a thing? @Wali763Your crash is of the "DXGI_EROR_DEVICE_REMOVED" kind. Ensure you GPU is not overclocked too much, or if you don't OC, ensure your graphics driver is alright. Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irisono Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 In my case, the 2nd mission load crashes are more frequent now. Since my last Windows update 19043.985 (Windows 10, Version 21H1), the crashes have come up much more frequently than before. While before the Windows update there was a crash with every second or third 2nd mission load, it is now after every 2nd mission load. Unfortunately, crashes in the ME occur now when loading a missions for the first time, not always but often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain_dalan Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Last night my nvidea drivers updated, but after a short test this afternoon it appears they don't affect the crashes in any way. Modules: FC3, Mirage 2000C, Harrier AV-8B NA, F-5, AJS-37 Viggen, F-14B, F-14A, Combined Arms, F/A-18C, F-16C, MiG-19P, F-86, MiG-15, FW-190A, Spitfire Mk IX, UH-1 Huey, Su-25, P-51PD, Caucasus map, Nevada map, Persian Gulf map, Marianas map, Syria Map, Super Carrier, Sinai map, Mosquito, P-51, AH-64 Apache Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burt Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Holy crap ! 6 crashes back to back within 30-40 mins. one after another. ALIENWARE R11 - I9 10900KF @ 5.1 GHz - M.2 NVMe 2TB - RTX3090 - XFURY 64GB -3400 MHz RAM Monitor AW3420DW @ 120Hz - Virpil CM3 Throttle - TM TPR Rudder pedals - Virpil CM2 w/TM Hornet Stick Center - Monstertech Deck Mounts RealSimulator FSSB-R3 Lightning Base w/ F16SRGRH SideStick - VR user / Varjo Aero - Big Thx to mbucchia Start Date April 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flia Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) I have a stupid question : is this second mission load bug somehow fixed in todays patch ? Edited May 20, 2021 by Flia PC: i7 9700K, 32 GB RAM, RTX 2080 SUPER, Tir 5, Hotas Warthog Throttle, VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Base with VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Grip, VKB-SIM T-RUDDER PEDALS MK.IV. Modules : NEVADA, F-5E, M-2000C, BF-109K4, A-10C, FC3, P-51D, MIG-21BIS, MI-8MTV2, F-86F, FW-190D9, UH-1H, L-39, MIG-15BIS, AJS37, SPITFIRE-MKIX, AV8BNA, PERSIAN GULF, F/A-18C HORNET, YAK-52, KA-50, F-14,SA342, C-101, F-16, JF-17, Supercarrier,I-16,MIG-19P, P-47D,A-10C_II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 We have no idea since testers couldn't reproduce the issue. My guess would be no. Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flia Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Roger PC: i7 9700K, 32 GB RAM, RTX 2080 SUPER, Tir 5, Hotas Warthog Throttle, VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Base with VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Grip, VKB-SIM T-RUDDER PEDALS MK.IV. Modules : NEVADA, F-5E, M-2000C, BF-109K4, A-10C, FC3, P-51D, MIG-21BIS, MI-8MTV2, F-86F, FW-190D9, UH-1H, L-39, MIG-15BIS, AJS37, SPITFIRE-MKIX, AV8BNA, PERSIAN GULF, F/A-18C HORNET, YAK-52, KA-50, F-14,SA342, C-101, F-16, JF-17, Supercarrier,I-16,MIG-19P, P-47D,A-10C_II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XPACT Posted May 20, 2021 Author Share Posted May 20, 2021 No, it hasn't been fixed. dcs.log-20210520-160814.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fra298 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 So far, no crashes with last update. I'll give more feedback during the week end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arikaj Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 For me the crashes returned back. I am gonna troubleshoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironhand Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 This entire issue is bizarre, especially since no one in a position to help seems able to reproduce it. What do we all have in common that makes us the ones experiencing this issue? Is it the color of our eyes? Mine are blue. More seriously, could it be how we installed Win10? As an upgrade of an earlier Windows version? Or a completely new install? I think mine’s a fresh install. But that was awhile ago. I just wish someone could figure this out. None of the usual suspects seem to be the culprit. 1 YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 10 Pro x64, ASUS Z97 Pro MoBo, Intel i7-4790K, EVGA GTX 970 4GB, HyperX Savage 32GB, Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB SSD, 2x Seagate Hybrid Drive 2TB Raid 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeleyer Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Hi there. Same on me, crashing when I load same mission for second time. It's happening to me since the first 2.7 update. I haven't written here because I always thought my crashes are similar to the others, but this time I'm gonna attach my log, just in case. Fresh install of windows just a month ago. Pagefile of 32768 on each drive (tried just only one with same results). dcs.20210520-194625.log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fra298 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) Fresh win 10 install (2 wekk ago) and blue eyes too @Ironhand we got "similar" config too. Core i7-4790K GTX 1050Ti 32GB RAM Samsung 1Tb SSD Edited May 20, 2021 by Fra298 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironhand Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Fra298 said: ...and blue eyes too... Blue eyes, too? You don’t suppose... 1 YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 10 Pro x64, ASUS Z97 Pro MoBo, Intel i7-4790K, EVGA GTX 970 4GB, HyperX Savage 32GB, Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB SSD, 2x Seagate Hybrid Drive 2TB Raid 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XPACT Posted May 20, 2021 Author Share Posted May 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, Ironhand said: Blue eyes, too? You don’t suppose... Mine are green, we shouldn't drop this it could lead us somewhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironhand Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, XPACT said: Mine are green, we shouldn't drop this it could lead us somewhere. It’s got as much promise as anything else we’ve chased. 1 YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 10 Pro x64, ASUS Z97 Pro MoBo, Intel i7-4790K, EVGA GTX 970 4GB, HyperX Savage 32GB, Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB SSD, 2x Seagate Hybrid Drive 2TB Raid 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blinde Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 18 minutes ago, XPACT said: Mine are green, we shouldn't drop this it could lead us somewhere. Sorry. Mine are brown and crashes frequently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironhand Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, Blinde said: Sorry. Mine are brown and crashes frequently. Well... that theory died a quick death. At least there wasn’t time to get my hopes up. YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 10 Pro x64, ASUS Z97 Pro MoBo, Intel i7-4790K, EVGA GTX 970 4GB, HyperX Savage 32GB, Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB SSD, 2x Seagate Hybrid Drive 2TB Raid 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Still crashing for me after today's update. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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