We need more carrier-based aircraft

[IcedVenom]

I know we have the Tomcat and kind of the Su-33, but we really do need more carrier-based aircraft in DCS for people who don't like what's currently offered. I think something like an F-11F, F3H Demon, F4D Skyray or for other nations Yak-38, Sea Hawk, Sea Venom, Super Etendard, etc. I hope you guys consider some of these options as well as the F-4 Phantom II in the future.

[upyr1]

Agreed. Right now the both Corsairs and the Crusader are in the works. Though I would also add the Zero there is at least one in flyable condition

https://commemorativeairforce.org/aircraft/36

 

[gabuzomeu]

we have also hornet? Harrier in some way ?

And I’d love F9F panther, to join mig 15 and Sabre (And corsair, present on same carriers in 1950) for a  Korea set 

[upyr1]

Just now, gabuzomeu said:

we have also hornet? Harrier in some way ?

And I’d love F9F panther, to join mig 15 and Sabre (And corsair, present on same carriers in 1950) for a  Korea set 

the Banchee might be good for the Korean war. We need more assets from the period

[Silver_Dragon]

The main problem has the assets.... Tankers, EW, bombers and enemy fighters and bombers.

 

[IcedVenom]

52 minutes ago, gabuzomeu said:

we have also hornet? Harrier in some way ?

And I’d love F9F panther, to join mig 15 and Sabre (And corsair, present on same carriers in 1950) for a  Korea set 

I understand, I just don't really care for what's currently offered in DCS. I want more older cold war stuff thanks.

1 hour ago, upyr1 said:

Agreed. Right now the both Corsairs and the Crusader are in the works. Though I would also add the Zero there is at least one in flyable condition

https://commemorativeairforce.org/aircraft/36

 

Looks slow even on a video lol. I don't think we need a Zero in DCS. Look not to be rude... but if we were to one day miraculously get a Zero in DCS from Japanese sources, most US pilots would try turn fighting with them instead of a proper pilot energy fighting or trying to BnZ. We need more US/NATO cold war stuff. ATM we only really have F-5 and Viggen.

Edited August 23, 2021 by IcedVenom

[upyr1]

56 minutes ago, IcedVenom said:

I understand, I just don't really care for what's currently offered in DCS. I want more older cold war stuff thanks.

Looks slow even on a video lol. I don't think we need a Zero in DCS. Look not to be rude... but if we were to one day miraculously get a Zero in DCS from Japanese sources, most US pilots would try turn fighting with them instead of a proper pilot energy fighting or trying to BnZ. We need more US/NATO cold war stuff. ATM we only really have F-5 and Viggen.

 

I'm not changing my mind. From my understanding we have a WWII Marina's map in the works. So it looks like we'll have to agree both Pacific WWII and more cold war assets would be good.  We have the F4U coming out, so I figure we'll need some Korean war assets for both sides and some WW II pacific assets. 

 

[SkateZilla]

There's always the F/A-37 Talon:

Edited August 24, 2021 by SkateZilla

[Evoman]

On 8/23/2021 at 4:57 PM, IcedVenom said:

I understand, I just don't really care for what's currently offered in DCS. I want more older cold war stuff thanks.

Looks slow even on a video lol. I don't think we need a Zero in DCS. Look not to be rude... but if we were to one day miraculously get a Zero in DCS from Japanese sources, most US pilots would try turn fighting with them instead of a proper pilot energy fighting or trying to BnZ. We need more US/NATO cold war stuff. ATM we only really have F-5 and Viggen.

 

Looks like you have not done much research again.  If you were to just follow the other 3rd parties on here or their FB pages you would be up to date on their current projects.

 

Magnitude 3 is currently working on the F-8J Crusader. - https://forums.eagle.ru/topic/200265-f-8-crusader/

Razbam is slowly working to bring the A-7E Corsair II to DCS once they get some other projects out of the way. - https://www.facebook.com/RazbamSims/posts/so-ive-been-asked-about-the-a-7-for-dcs-these-very-early-pics-show-that-while-we/1220573548029281/

 

Heatblur is working on the A-6 Intruder -

 

 

[IcedVenom]

2 hours ago, Evoman said:

Looks like you have not done much research again.  If you were to just follow the other 3rd parties on here or their FB pages you would be up to date on their current projects.

 

Magnitude 3 is currently working on the F-8J Crusader. - https://forums.eagle.ru/topic/200265-f-8-crusader/

Razbam is slowly working to bring the A-7E Corsair II to DCS once they get some other projects out of the way. - https://www.facebook.com/RazbamSims/posts/so-ive-been-asked-about-the-a-7-for-dcs-these-very-early-pics-show-that-while-we/1220573548029281/

 

Heatblur is working on the A-6 Intruder -

 

 

As much as it's nice to have some of those coming, I was envisioning something a tad bit older or not American. Since we can't get an A-4 due to the mod, my top choice would have been the carrier-based F3H or F-11F fighters. I knew those aircraft were coming but just isn't enough to satisfy myself. The A-6 is the only one that seems interesting enough to grab, but I'll have to look at what it's like once it releases before I decide to purchase an aircraft with US electronics that I'll have to learn. 

[bies]

Carrier operations on the deck of WW2 Essex Class - USS Shangri-La in year 1962, somewhere in the Mediterranean Sea.

 

With takeoffs and landings of the first, lightweight F-8A Crusaders being quite new, in service from 1957 (notice lector still calls it "F8U" along with the older Navy designation changed in the same 1962) There are also A-4D Skyhawks light attack planes, F4D Skyray high altitude interceptors with huge lift to mass.

 

(Make sure you selected 1080P since video has great quality for 1962, year of Cuban missile crisis, it's way before Vietnam.)

 

 

[Dudikoff]

7 hours ago, Evoman said:

Looks like you have not done much research again.  If you were to just follow the other 3rd parties on here or their FB pages you would be up to date on their current projects.

 

 

Razbam is slowly working to bring the A-7E Corsair II to DCS once they get some other projects out of the way. - https://www.facebook.com/RazbamSims/posts/so-ive-been-asked-about-the-a-7-for-dcs-these-very-early-pics-show-that-while-we/1220573548029281/

 

Speaking of not researching, Razbam A-7E? Kind of doubt it will happen since someone else is having a crack at it.

 

 

Edited August 25, 2021 by Dudikoff

[Killshot0597]

7 hours ago, Evoman said:

Razbam is slowly working to bring the A-7E Corsair II to DCS

Sorry but the A-7E is being done by FlyingIron Simulations. Not Razbam, the only cold-war era aircraft Razbam is developing that hasn't been released yet is the Mig-23.

5 hours ago, IcedVenom said:

Since we can't get an A-4 due to the mod

The A-4 being a mod won't stop any 3rd party or ED themselves to work on it. They just choose not to

Edited August 25, 2021 by KIllshot0597

[vvm13]

For some reason, many people remembers about Zero, but no one at the same time remembers F4F. I think, for online game, it is he who is needed, otherwise there will be very few people who want to fly to Zero againts Americans. At the same time, F4F against Zero is not at all a helpless sacrifice.

[IcedVenom]

2 hours ago, Dudikoff said:

 

Speaking of not researching, Razbam A-7E? Kind of doubt it will happen since someone else is having a crack at it.

 

 

 

I did not mention A-7E because I do not care about ugly planes. I do a lot of research. The one plane I am excited for is the A-6.

[5ephir0th]

So the topic its not "We need more carrier based aircraft" but "I need this carrier based aircraft"

[IcedVenom]

3 minutes ago, 5ephir0th said:

So the topic its not "We need more carrier based aircraft" but "I need this carrier based aircraft"

No, it is still we need more carrier-based aircraft, so far all are US carrier aircraft including AV-8B. I think getting some naval helicopters would be a good addition, as well as Russian aircraft like Yak-38 and one day J-15, Su-33 or MiG-29K (Not possible atm). The French have their Etendards and British have Buccaneer, Sea Hawk and Scimitar. Some other, older aircraft which I think DCS would benefit from could be stuff like F3D Skyknight, F-4 Phantom, F9F, F3H Demon, F-11F Tiger, FJ-4B, F4D Skyray, etc.

[Tank50us]

24 minutes ago, IcedVenom said:

I did not mention A-7E because I do not care about ugly planes. I do a lot of research. The one plane I am excited for is the A-6.

 

Yeah, funny thing about that, just because an aircraft isn't wining a beauty pageant in this life or the next doesn't mean it's not effective. Honestly, of all the aircraft of the Cold-War era, only the Phantom is going to have a chance of that when it's compared to the more modern jets, but again, that doesn't mean they weren't effective at what they were designed to do. (The Cutlass being an exception to that).

 

My point to all of this, is that we're getting more Carrier Based Aircraft, it's just that it takes a long time to actually make them from scratch. This isn't FSX or FS2020 where you can just buy a model off of Turbosquid and throw it into the game and make money off of it. ED is very much against that practice, and pushes the 3rd Party Devs to make all of the assets from scratch. The only areas where they can 'borrow' from DCS are weapon coding, radar coding, and some, I repeat, some systems coding. Other than that, they give you a foundation from which to build, and it's up to you to build it. If you want these planes in, and you can form a team to build them, I highly suggest you do so. Because the only other way we're getting them all is in FC3 Style, and too many people whine and moan about that for ED to want to make more of FC3 style planes.

[sirrah]

42 minutes ago, IcedVenom said:

I did not mention A-7E because I do not care about ugly planes.

 

Blasphemy!!

[Cab]

8 minutes ago, sirrah said:

 

Blasphemy!!

 

LOL Even the pilots called it the SLUF (short little ugly f**ker)

 

Great, GREAT airplane, by the way

[Dudikoff]

1 hour ago, IcedVenom said:

I did not mention A-7E because I do not care about ugly planes. I do a lot of research. The one plane I am excited for is the A-6.

 

I guess you should have researched my post better then as it didn't reference you in any way.

[upyr1]

2 hours ago, vvm13 said:

For some reason, many people remembers about Zero, but no one at the same time remembers F4F. I think, for online game, it is he who is needed, otherwise there will be very few people who want to fly to Zero againts Americans. At the same time, F4F against Zero is not at all a helpless sacrifice.

We have the f4u in the pipe which is why the Zero is needed. 

[vvm13]

1 minute ago, upyr1 said:

We have the f4u in the pipe which is why the Zero is needed. 

A Corsair needs Zero for historical single player missions. But for online game Zero needs a WildCat.

[upyr1]

4 hours ago, KIllshot0597 said:

The A-4 being a mod won't stop any 3rd party or ED themselves to work on it. They just choose not to

 

I am fine with that situation. It means one they'll have to tackle something else like the F4H or F-110 aka F-4 Phantom II or an F9F

[upyr1]

9 minutes ago, vvm13 said:

A Corsair needs Zero for historical single player missions. But for online game Zero needs a WildCat.

The Zero would still be good for the F4U it was used through out the war and unless two different companies develop the Zero and Wildcat at the same time then the Zero needs to be given the priority. Otherwise you end up with two USN/MC fighters and no op for