Do you experience F-14 hanging freeze?

[Pekki]

Please respond the poll in case you have experienced the F-14 hanging freeze. There are multiple topics around the issue in the forums, but would like to see if it is widespread or not. Especially if you managed to fix the issue, please comment how you did it. Thanks!

 

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Relates to F-14, Supercarrier and AI.

Edited October 5, 2022 by Pekki

[IronMike]

I did lately experience these freezes myself, however much sooner than others, and it turned out to be a mem related issue on my part - so this may not be a reply to the general issue at hand, which we are still chasing.

What fixed the freezes for me was doing the following upon the suggestion of one of the testers:

Open a cmd.exe as Administrator and type in the following commands:
sfc /scannow

dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth

After that restart your PC and see if it helped.

Please note: this may not be a fix for the issue (and if you do not experience any ram or driver issues wont help), but may be a fix if you are experiencing the issue due to RAM or driver issues like I did. So it is worth giving it a try. And please let us know if that helped. Big thanks to @Special K for the tip above.


Thank you also for this initiative, it helps us get a better overview.

Edited October 5, 2022 by IronMike

[draconus]

11 hours ago, Pekki said:

Please respond the poll in case you have experienced the F-14 hanging freeze.

That would yield a bit biased result, wouldn't it?

[Pekki]

48 minutes ago, draconus said:

That would yield a bit biased result, wouldn't it?

Sorry, yes it would. Should have written just, please answer.  

I really just would like to know if there are any fixes and if it just random and uncommon. Thanks!

[Wavehopper]

I fixed mine by reverting to the previous update, and then updating to the newest version again.  Had to do that on the last two updates, but it seems to work.

[kablamoman]

Posting again just to say I had to roll back nvidia drivers to the 512.95 (may 24) version to resolve the problem. The crashes for me started in the 516.40 driver release of June 15th.

Everything I've tried subsequent to that has resulted in the same crash to desktop behavior. I have not tried the newest release (517.48) yet.

[RustBelt]

Well, thanks to nvidia’s terrible business choices, that won’t be a problem much longer.

[Rokkett]

Since the last 3 or so updates, I too have experienced the sim freezing/hanging, with sounds continuing to play in the background. Have to ctrl/alt/del to exit and restart. These hangs are reproducible and occur at the same point in the mission. My hangs appear to be related to the F-14AI. If I remove the F-14AI from the mission or simply replace them with an alternative aircraft, then the mission plays out as intended. This is my workaround, but hardly a solution. I have no mods.

[WWSmith]

I tried IronMike's fix, but sadly it hasn't worked for me. I just flew mission 6 of Operation Reforger (it's always frozen on me in the past, but it's a pretty quick and easy mission, so good for testing), and it froze when I was trying to rendezvous with the tanker, as always.

[Callsign JoNay]

On 10/6/2022 at 5:39 PM, Rokkett said:

Since the last 3 or so updates, I too have experienced the sim freezing/hanging, with sounds continuing to play in the background. Have to ctrl/alt/del to exit and restart. These hangs are reproducible and occur at the same point in the mission. My hangs appear to be related to the F-14AI. If I remove the F-14AI from the mission or simply replace them with an alternative aircraft, then the mission plays out as intended. This is my workaround, but hardly a solution. I have no mods.

One of the most common places me, and friends, experienced the hanging freeze over the last few months is the Hoggit Caucasus training server, and I don't think there are any AI F-14s there. 

[IronMike]

Thank you all for your kind feedback, this ofc remains one of our top priority bugs. Our sincere apologies that we were not able to put the finger on it yet, and that the previous attempts for fixing it did not solve it yet. Thank you all for your very kind patience, we certainly know how frustrating the issue is.

[rmk80]

I also tried IronMike's fix, but unfortunately it did'nt fix it for me. Just had another freeze

[captain_dalan]

I've had this bug for ages, never solved, as i never figured out what's causing it. Most often it happens on mission restart or respawn (when in MP), but sometimes it happens when running the same mission multiple times without restarting it, just picking it up again from the menu. And on even rarer occasions, it happens during the very first start of a mission, right after DCS loads.

[IronMike]

On 10/9/2022 at 6:40 PM, rmk80 said:

I also tried IronMike's fix, but unfortunately it did'nt fix it for me. Just had another freeze

Thank you for the feedback, then this was likely very specifically a RAM issue in my particular case.

[Gibo]

I've had two consecutive freezes in the last mission (Recon)of Operation Sandworm campaign. The freezes happened near the end of the mission (wich is a long one) when I approced the Carrier to land. Hoping to help to solve the problem I attach the log file.

dcs.log

[Spartan111sqn]

I guess it is not only linked to the F14, I am playing Liberation and only AI is flying tomcats, and randomly to some clients appear such freeze, and they're flying hornets and vipers.

[Spartan111sqn]

On 10/16/2022 at 2:01 PM, Spartan111sqn said:

I guess it is not only linked to the F14, I am playing Liberation and only AI is flying tomcats, and randomly to some clients appear such freeze, and they're flying hornets and vipers.

Any news or observation on this?

[Pekki]

Coming back to this,

Tested reinstalling old version and then new one, still freeze crashes.

Also did extensive hw inc. ram tests, no faults found. Would be strange that hw issue would cause crash as all other modules are ”100%” stable for hours and hours.

Still freeze crashes after 10-15mins of cage the bear third mission (cold start, sc), everytime. 

[Jayhawk1971]

An interim solution when playing other (non-F-14) campaigns that use AI Tomcats seems to be - and it pains me to write this - to disable the Tomcat module in the module manager.

I really hope that HB can find the culprit soon, because that is hardly a viable solution for any Tomcat fan. 

 

[SgtPappy]

I'll have to check my tracks for this one but for me it seems to happen if I fly a mission (ML or SP, doesn't matter) in one plane and then switch to the F-14. Then at some point, it freezes.. sometimes at spawn but sometimes in the air.

I've been shy about posting it because it doesn't always happen and I can't reproduce the conditions reliably.

[rmk80]

On 10/20/2022 at 3:06 PM, Jayhawk1971 said:

An interim solution when playing other (non-F-14) campaigns that use AI Tomcats seems to be - and it pains me to write this - to disable the Tomcat module in the module manager.

I tried this workaround, but I still got a mission freeze. So far the only real workaround for me that has proven to work is not having any Tomcats in the mission.

[grant977]

South Atlantic map for me its fairly consistent happing on returning to the boat about 20-30nm out.

[Pekki]

Did not crash anymore at the same point in cage the bear mission 3 with DCS 2.8, but it did freeze crash at the end when I died due to a missile hit and view changing to Awacs f2 view automatically. 

Edited October 29, 2022 by Pekki

[Reccelow]

On Syria map, flying out from Haifa to the (super) carrier. I do have static and AI F-14's on the deck placed via ME. 

 

Midflight hang, in cockpit.  Last entry in log:

 

1.) Torso: Step=Undefined, Unit=Torso1, Airframe=F-14B)
2022-10-30 17:36:23.310 ERROR   APP (Main): Error: Unit [F-14A-135-GR]: Corrupt damage model.
2022-10-30 17:36:23.325 INFO    SCRIPTING (Main): EMBD.fuelTest event birth found
2022-10-30 17:36:23.325 INFO    SCRIPTING (Main): EMBD.fuelTest event birth found, fuel: 0.65541642904282
2022-10-30 17:36:23.325 INFO    SCRIPTING (Main): EMBD.collectSpawned started
2022-10-30 17:36:23.325 INFO    SCRIPTING (Main): EMBD.collectSpawned unit is a flying thing, removed

[Reccelow]

Have had good luck by removing TacView.  Holding past 5 missions now  with no freezing.