killerwhale Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 Ok so now DCS world needs a hard drive of its own? this game is headed for 300 GB drive space, where is DCS going with this? into one terabyte?
Dangerzone Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 Are you talking about a stand-alone server? If so - at this stage I believe the answer is "Yes". From my understanding the dedicated server requires all maps to be installed, even if you're only using one. I believe there have been previous requests before to allow server operators to specify which maps they want on their servers. If this is a client install, you can probably reduce your install size by removing some of the maps you don't use. Maps are probably the biggest culprit. It makes sense to me that DCS will get larger in size as improvements and details are made to maps (and as more maps are created and purchased). I have no issues with that - provided we can control what we have installed on our HDD/SSD's.
SharpeXB Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 (edited) Yeah DCS is gonna need it’s own drive. Every game is gonna need its own drive. They’re all routinely 100GB these days. Honestly I think DCS is getting too many maps. I just avoid them unless they’re used in MP or a DLC campaign. I’m not sure why we need a map of northern Australia… Edited December 30, 2022 by SharpeXB 3 i9-14900KS | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO | 64GB DDR5 5600MHz | iCUE H150i Liquid CPU Cooler | ASUS TUF GeForce RTX 4090 OC | Windows 11 Home | 2TB Samsung 980 PRO NVMe | Corsair RM1000x | LG 48GQ900-B 4K OLED Monitor | CH Fighterstick | Ch Pro Throttle | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR 5
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted December 30, 2022 ED Team Posted December 30, 2022 As content is created the size will grow, there is no way around this, content can be managed using the module manager however. With the base install we will always try to keep the size on the disk as small as we can, and then you can manage which DLC you want to have on disk using the module manager. However the fact remains, simulators have always been hogs for space on disks, so its a challenge for sure. You can split between drives using symbolic links, some people will use symbolic links to other drives for terrains for example or mods folder. 4 3 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
sthompson Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 6 hours ago, BIGNEWY said: You can split between drives using symbolic links, some people will use symbolic links to other drives for terrains for example or mods folder. @BIGNEWY Does ED have any suggestions as to which folders can be moved to slower drives for access using symbolic links that will have the least impact on performance? I'm sure that the easy answer is "aircraft or terrains you aren't using." But what about the rest? Some guidance would be welcome. 1 I'm Softball on Multiplayer. NZXT Player Three Prime, i9-13900K@3.00GHz, 64GB DDR5, Win 11 Home, Nvidia GeForce RTX 4090 24GB, TrackIR 5, VKB Gunfighter III with MCG Ultimate grip, VKB STECS Standard Throttle, CH Pro pedals
cajundave Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 7 hours ago, BIGNEWY said: You can split between drives using symbolic links, some people will use symbolic links to other drives for terrains for example or mods folder. Are there directions on how to do that? I've been curious because DCS uses up almost all of my SSD, meanwhile I have a 1 TB HDD doing almost nothing. 1
Slippa Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 I’m having to deal with a bloated drive and could do with arranging DCS better. As of yesterday, my Eagle Dynamics folder got to 700 odd gb. My C drive went into the red so I tried moving things about. Now stable won’t load after repairs and OB has lost all settings. Keybinds, option settings etc.. think I’ll have a 1tb DCS drive set up or as already said, have to manage it all a lot better. Rather that than a halt to any new content.
Rudel_chw Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Slippa said: My C drive went into the red so I tried moving things about. Now stable won’t load after repairs and OB has lost all settings. Most likely you moved the /saved games/ folder by copy/paste … its a windows special folder and should be moved only by making use of its property sheet rather than copy/paste. 1 For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
AKULA_OPTIMUS Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 That completely depends of what you have installed, and yes, it will grow forever (hopefully :P), as long as new modules and terrains appear.
Slippa Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Rudel_chw said: Most likely you moved the /saved games/ folder by copy/paste … its a windows special folder and should be moved only by making use of its property sheet rather than copy/paste. Exactly what I did. I doubted it would work myself but carried on, following a yt thing on it. I’ll look again, cheers.
sthompson Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Slippa said: Exactly what I did. I doubted it would work myself but carried on, following a yt thing on it. I’ll look again, cheers. Correct way to move Saved Games is to go into your Users folder (e.g. c:\users\yourname), then right click on the saved games folder, select "properties," and then use the "location" tab. If you copy/paste the current version back to the original location and then follow this method you should be good. Edited December 30, 2022 by sthompson I'm Softball on Multiplayer. NZXT Player Three Prime, i9-13900K@3.00GHz, 64GB DDR5, Win 11 Home, Nvidia GeForce RTX 4090 24GB, TrackIR 5, VKB Gunfighter III with MCG Ultimate grip, VKB STECS Standard Throttle, CH Pro pedals
Rudel_chw Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Slippa said: .. following a yt thing on it. I’ll look again I wrote a small Guide on this a while back 1 hour ago, sthompson said: If you copy/paste the current version back to the original location Not sure it can be done that way, as the first copy/paste stripped the folder of its special properties 1 For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
MadKreator Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 I’m just over 500 gigs on my dcs OB install. Bought a 2TB drive just for games. DCS is welcome to have it all LOL 1 Intel i7 13700k, ASUS rog strix z790A, 64gigs G.Skill Trident DDR5 @6400Mhz, Nvidia RTX 4080FE, 4TB, 2x 2TB, 1TB Samsung NVME, 1TB Samsung SSD, Corsair RM1000x, Corsair Titan 360 X AIO cooler, Lian Li LanCool 2, VKB Gunfighter Ultimate, VKB Custom STECS , MFG Crosswinds, Moza FFB, Virpil Collective, Track IR5, 48” LG UltraGear OLED & HP 24” touchscreen for Helios,49” Samsung Ultrawide, Streamdeck XL, Corsair Virtuoso RGB Headphones
Sr. Posted December 30, 2022 Posted December 30, 2022 I now have dual 2TB NVME Bring it! 1 Ryzen 7 5800X3D | 64GB DDR4 3600| MSI RTX 4080 16GB Ventus 3X OC | Samsung 970 Evo 2TB NVME | Quest 3 | Logitech X-56 throttle | VKB NXT Premium | Win 11 "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --Arthur C Clark
Slippa Posted December 31, 2022 Posted December 31, 2022 I copied the saved games folder back to where it was on C. Opened D and created a new folder, named it ‘saved games’ and closed it. Then I did what I should’ve done last night to move it, right clicked on the saved games in C and gave it the path to move to D, job done. I deleted the mess and as far as OB goes, it’s all back as it was thank you very much. DCS Stable runs to a black screen on loading after a few attempts at running a repair. I’ll uninstall stable and see what state my drives are in to reinstall it. To get back to the OP, I’ll go with dedicating a 1tb drive for DCS I think? Mad how it goes I suppose. Glad to have seen this thread, sorry to the OP for the squeeze but thanks to everyone for the sensible help. - I just uninstalled stable. Eagle Dynamics folder is now 368gb with only OB installed so still no light-weight. Cheers for getting the chocks away all, Happy New Year.
SharpeXB Posted December 31, 2022 Posted December 31, 2022 I put a new machine together recently and gave it 7TB of hard drive space That might keep the situation under control… for now i9-14900KS | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO | 64GB DDR5 5600MHz | iCUE H150i Liquid CPU Cooler | ASUS TUF GeForce RTX 4090 OC | Windows 11 Home | 2TB Samsung 980 PRO NVMe | Corsair RM1000x | LG 48GQ900-B 4K OLED Monitor | CH Fighterstick | Ch Pro Throttle | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR 5
pete_auau Posted December 31, 2022 Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) lucky i got 3 hard drives, one for os install, one for msfs and p3d and the last one for dcs Edited December 31, 2022 by pete_auau
Slippa Posted December 31, 2022 Posted December 31, 2022 I trust everyone's making backups? As well as backing up the backups. Twice, maybe? 1
Rudel_chw Posted December 31, 2022 Posted December 31, 2022 6 minutes ago, Slippa said: I trust everyone's making backups? As well as backing up the backups. Twice, maybe? For DCS i only backup /saved games/ plus my Mods Library. The DCS itself is not necessary as I can simply re-download it if needed 1 For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
Blinde Posted December 31, 2022 Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) I just wish that these unrealistic national skins would be deleted. I hate these swedish and UK skins on Mig-21 etc liveries on planes that never were even close. Those take unnecessary space since I doubt most of the players ever use them. They should be optional downloads. Edited December 31, 2022 by Blinde 1
Rudel_chw Posted December 31, 2022 Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Blinde said: I hate these swedish and UK skins on Mig-21 etc liveries on planes that never were even close The MiG-21 is one of the DCS aircraft that comes with lots of liveries, 75 of them in fact ... 4 of them are fictional Swedish and RAF liveries ... they use 70-80 KB each .. are you really so strapped for disk space that 0.3 MB is actually gonna make a difference? I don't mind those liveries being there, even if I don't personally use them on my missions, as I'm sure there are swedish and UK players that do in fact enjoy them .. .who am I to take those away from those players? Why don't you just bite the bullet and purchase a larger drive? We are almost on 2023, a 256 GB SSD drive doesn't cut it any longer. Edited December 31, 2022 by Rudel_chw For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
marcoscosta Posted December 31, 2022 Posted December 31, 2022 On 12/30/2022 at 12:45 AM, killerwhale said: Ok so now DCS world needs a hard drive of its own? this game is headed for 300 GB drive space, where is DCS going with this? into one terabyte? 1 Computer: Potato Modules: FC3 | M2000C | A/V8B | Viggen | F-5E | F-14B | F-16C | F/A-18 | A-10C | Supercarrier :mad::mad: | UH-1 | MI-8 | Gazelle | KA-50
corn322 Posted December 31, 2022 Posted December 31, 2022 22 minutes ago, Rudel_chw said: they use 70-80 KB each Maybe recheck your numbers. My Mig-21 liveries folder (dcs word/coremods/aircraft/MiG-21bis/Liveries/MiG-21bis) is 3.75GB for 75 files. Anyway, I just bought a new 1TB SSD for DCS World also.
Rudel_chw Posted December 31, 2022 Posted December 31, 2022 1 hour ago, corn322 said: Maybe recheck your numbers yeah, my bad, they were 70-80 MB each For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
BuzzU Posted December 31, 2022 Posted December 31, 2022 I bought a bunch of planes and maps but I only install the plane i'm flying and the PG map. It's still not a small install compared to other games but not too bad when done my way. Buzz
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