DCS: Mosquito FB VI livery competition

[BIGNEWY]

DCS: Mosquito FB VI livery competition

Using the official template found here, we are holding a DCS: Mosquito FB VI livery contest. The top ten submissions will have their skins integrated into DCS world and their name will also be included in the official manual. 

Here are some of the requirements and details:

• The skin must be created using this template. 
• The livery must be based on current or historic schemes from any Mosquito variant.
• The livery must be associated with one of the countries currently present in DCS.

Here are instructions for saving textures with MIP levels using NVIDIA Texture Tools for Adobe Photoshop.

After submitting your file to User Files, please post in the DCS: Mosquito FB VI Competition forum topic with a screenshot and link to your file from the ED user files.

The contest will run until the 24th March 2023. All ten winners will receive a free copy of DCS: Mosquito FB VI, or any other Eagle Dynamics module, that can be also given as a gift to any DCS account.

 

[YoYo]

Does this mean leaving EA soon? 

[Night Owl]

Awesome initiative, more Mossie Skins are greatly needed!

For the livery designers, please consider making changeable bort numbers, since only those liveries can really be used.

[Magic Zach]

As someone who's watched the disaster that was the P-47 and Fw190A8 livery competitions, I BEG that people who make livery submissions think of how applicable their livery would really be for DCS.

Consider, the following:

1) WORKING BORT NUMBERS

The last two livery competitions, some skins that were accepted did not having working bort numbers.  This is a MUST for a livery, please don't submit your livery if it doesn't have working bort numbers.

2) CORRECT TIME PERIOD

We are working out of 1944, early to late.  Please do not submit liveries that are from a time period that we cannot represent in DCS with our maps and planeset, otherwise they cannot be historically used.

3) CORRECT CONTEXT

We only have Normandy/England to fly over.  Not the east front or Mediterranean.  Mosquitos were not used in an extensive capacity in the Pacific.  Sorry Aussies, but we don't have that map.  We cannot use liveries from fronts other than the ETO west front, because we do not have those fronts.

4) SQUADRONS AND GROUPS, NOT SPECIFIC PILOTS

Liveries based off of specific individuals in the past do not help DCS.  There were not 50 Mosquitos all with the same nose art and 'John Doe' written on the side ever in history.  Keep liveries to squadrons at the most specific, not pilots.

5) HISTORIC

They had to exist in history.  We do not need another Japanese what-if paint scheme, we cannot use those in DCS.

[BIGNEWY]

29 minutes ago, Magic Zach said:

As someone who's watched the disaster that was the P-47 and Fw190A8 livery competitions, I BEG that people who make livery submissions think of how applicable their livery would really be for DCS.

Consider, the following:

1) WORKING BORT NUMBERS

The last two livery competitions, some skins that were accepted did not having working bort numbers.  This is a MUST for a livery, please don't submit your livery if it doesn't have working bort numbers.

2) CORRECT TIME PERIOD

We are working out of 1944, early to late.  Please do not submit liveries that are from a time period that we cannot represent in DCS with our maps and planeset, otherwise they cannot be historically used.

3) CORRECT CONTEXT

We only have Normandy/England to fly over.  Not the east front or Mediterranean.  Mosquitos were not used in an extensive capacity in the Pacific.  Sorry Aussies, but we don't have that map.  We cannot use liveries from fronts other than the ETO west front, because we do not have those fronts.

4) SQUADRONS AND GROUPS, NOT SPECIFIC PILOTS

Liveries based off of specific individuals in the past do not help DCS.  There were not 50 Mosquitos all with the same nose art and 'John Doe' written on the side ever in history.  Keep liveries to squadrons at the most specific, not pilots.

5) HISTORIC

They had to exist in history.  We do not need another Japanese what-if paint scheme, we cannot use those in DCS.

competition rules are in the first post.  

thank you

[Iron Sights]

I do agree that the Mosquito could use a few more skins. I’m also happy to see a campaign come for it as well. I’m not much at making skins, but I wish everyone the best of luck and can’t wait to get some add on skins.

[ZedTank]

Here's my humble submission - 3 Historical Israeli air force liveries with authentic Hebrew stencils and decals

All of these could be used well in the upcoming Sinai map as these were used extensively in the 1956 suez crisis. 
 

First - 110th - "Knights of the North" Squadron - 1956 Operation Kadesh colors

 https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3318518/

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Second -  IAF Mosquito - 109th - "The Valley Squadron" - Silver

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3318517/

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Third - IAF Training yellow

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3318519/

Edited February 24, 2023 by ZedTank
Info added

[Night Owl]

I would also like to raise the artist's attention to invasion stripes. 

During June 1944, Mosquitos involved in the Normandy campaign had full invasion stripes top and bottom, and during July and August they had invasion stripes on the lower half. 

For our server for example, the presence of invasion stripes is critical. 

 

[static_actual]

I'm aware the WWII German aircraft have censored swastikas to comply with German law; does this also apply to kill markings on allied aircraft? Took a quick look through the mustang liveries and pretty much all of them have the iron cross if they have kill markings, so I figured I'd ask.

[Santus]

This is my entry for the competition

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3327837/

[Megalax]

7 hours ago, Magic Zach said:

As someone who's watched the disaster that was the P-47 and Fw190A8 livery competitions, I BEG that people who make livery submissions think of how applicable their livery would really be for DCS.

Consider, the following:

1) WORKING BORT NUMBERS

The last two livery competitions, some skins that were accepted did not having working bort numbers.  This is a MUST for a livery, please don't submit your livery if it doesn't have working bort numbers.

2) CORRECT TIME PERIOD

We are working out of 1944, early to late.  Please do not submit liveries that are from a time period that we cannot represent in DCS with our maps and planeset, otherwise they cannot be historically used.

3) CORRECT CONTEXT

We only have Normandy/England to fly over.  Not the east front or Mediterranean.  Mosquitos were not used in an extensive capacity in the Pacific.  Sorry Aussies, but we don't have that map.  We cannot use liveries from fronts other than the ETO west front, because we do not have those fronts.

4) SQUADRONS AND GROUPS, NOT SPECIFIC PILOTS

Liveries based off of specific individuals in the past do not help DCS.  There were not 50 Mosquitos all with the same nose art and 'John Doe' written on the side ever in history.  Keep liveries to squadrons at the most specific, not pilots.

5) HISTORIC

They had to exist in history.  We do not need another Japanese what-if paint scheme, we cannot use those in DCS.

Listen Zach...

 

[Art-J]

Although I usually admire Zach's hard work and feedback related to paintschemes, the narrow minded and arrogant approach in this case is surprising and puzzling for me. 

The last thing Mosquito deserves is limited bunch of all-the-same looking RAF mid-44 skins with an odd Coastal Command livery thrown in for a change. I don't have Channel map, I'm not THAT anal about historical context (though I admit it's something "nice to have"), because I use DCS primarily as a cheap MSFS alternative for recreational flying. I'm also not Aussie, far from it (figuratively and literally, living on the opposite side of the planet Earth ;)) but I really hope MateusOV will participate in the competition and update and submit his awesome silver RAAF and RAF SEAC skins (the primary ones I'm using while flying wherever I feel like flying). It would be shame not to have at least one of these available in stock collection.

How about Il-2GB approach: let's indeed have a couple of Channel/Normandy relevant skins for historic mission and campaign purposes, and then a collection of skins from whatever period / theater / user as long as they comply with ED's requirements.

[Skewgear]

Those Israeli liveries look great, really eye-catching. Especially the yellow one, reminds me of the original prototype yellow scheme.

Some Canadian liveries would be cool to see given how many FB.26s (basically the Mk.VI but built in Canada at Downview) were made.

And of course some 2TAF schemes to represent the European war where the Mosquito distinguished itself, but part of the joy of aviation is learning about the wide and sometimes very obscure variety of places that aircraft ended up in.

[Night Owl]

vor 27 Minuten schrieb Art-J:

How about Il-2GB approach: let's indeed have a couple of Channel/Normandy relevant skins for historic mission and campaign purposes, and then a collection of skins from whatever period / theater / user as long as they comply with ED's requirements.

Yes that would be great.  There will be 10 choosen liveries, so there is room for some fitting to the theatre and some from other places and times. 

Ideally there would be at least three historically fitting ones, with no invasion stripes, half invasion stripes, and full invasion stripes to cover the different periods in the ETO. 

[Magic Zach]

5 hours ago, Art-J said:

Although I usually admire Zach's hard work and feedback related to paintschemes, the narrow minded and arrogant approach in this case is surprising and puzzling for me. 

The last thing Mosquito deserves is limited bunch of all-the-same looking RAF mid-44 skins with an odd Coastal Command livery thrown in for a change. I don't have Channel map, I'm not THAT anal about historical context (though I admit it's something "nice to have"), because I use DCS primarily as a cheap MSFS alternative for recreational flying. I'm also not Aussie, far from it (figuratively and literally, living on the opposite side of the planet Earth ;)) but I really hope MateusOV will participate in the competition and update and submit his awesome silver RAAF and RAF SEAC skins (the primary ones I'm using while flying wherever I feel like flying). It would be shame not to have at least one of these available in stock collection.

How about Il-2GB approach: let's indeed have a couple of Channel/Normandy relevant skins for historic mission and campaign purposes, and then a collection of skins from whatever period / theater / user as long as they comply with ED's requirements.

We need to avoid what happened with the P-47 and the 190A8.  Those competitions produced liveries that were representative of individual pilots, which cannot be used in a mission with more than one of an aircraft type.  They also produced NO liveries that fit the context of what we have in DCS, and that is 1944 France.

7 hours ago, Megalax said:

Listen Zach...

 

No, but it's for the betterment of DCS WW2

[static_actual]

52 minutes ago, Magic Zach said:

We need to avoid what happened with the P-47 and the 190A8.  Those competitions produced liveries that were representative of individual pilots, which cannot be used in a mission with more than one of an aircraft type.  They also produced NO liveries that fit the context of what we have in DCS, and that is 1944 France.

1944 France seems... very, very restrictive. Even if we accept that the context of WWII units in DCS HAS to be on period appropriate maps (which I don't), what's the issue with 1939-1943 France, or England from the same timeframe?

Edited February 25, 2023 by static_actual

[Helles Belle]

Just to annoy the purists I'll start with this one, but will put something a bit more left of centre up soon to keep the mission makers happy.

Edit: the orange hi viz on top of the wings will be changed to the correct yellow bars now updated.

RM's updated.

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3327564/

 

Edited March 4, 2023 by Helles Belle

[TJTAS]

why not pick an aircraft that actually had some interesting liveries?. How many combinations of Grey-Green, Grey-Green-Black, Grey, Yellow and Light-blue-green-brown do you want?.

Wouldn't an aircraft like the B-17 be a better aircraft as it had a lot more imaginative paint schemes.

[Helles Belle]

5 minutes ago, TJTAS said:

why not pick an aircraft that actually had some interesting liveries?. How many combinations of Grey-Green, Grey-Green-Black, Grey, Yellow and Light-blue-green-brown do you want?.

Wouldn't an aircraft like the B-17 be a better aircraft as it had a lot more imaginative paint schemes.

I like where you're going. I guess the answer is ED want to be more inclusive by getting the user to show what they want. The users have a win because they get to showcase aircraft they want in the game and ED has a win as they get enthusiastic people to give them liveries for free. 

I do agree with your last point though which is what I'm slowly trying to do when I can. See link https://hbdcs.tumblr.com/

Edited February 25, 2023 by Helles Belle

[TJTAS]

3 minutes ago, Helles Belle said:

I like where you're going. I guess the answer is ED want to be more inclusive by getting the user to show what they want. The users have a win because they get to showcase aircraft they want in the game and ED has a win as they get enthusiastic people to give them liveries for free. 

I do agree with your last point though which is what I'm slowly trying to do when I can. See link https://hbdcs.tumblr.com/

 

Especially since you've made the only interesting skin for the mossie.

[Bozon]

20 hours ago, Magic Zach said:

As someone who's watched the disaster that was the P-47 and Fw190A8 livery competitions, I BEG that people who make livery submissions think of how applicable their livery would really be for DCS.

Consider, the following:

1) WORKING BORT NUMBERS

The last two livery competitions, some skins that were accepted did not having working bort numbers.  This is a MUST for a livery, please don't submit your livery if it doesn't have working bort numbers.

2) CORRECT TIME PERIOD

We are working out of 1944, early to late.  Please do not submit liveries that are from a time period that we cannot represent in DCS with our maps and planeset, otherwise they cannot be historically used.

3) CORRECT CONTEXT

We only have Normandy/England to fly over.  Not the east front or Mediterranean.  Mosquitos were not used in an extensive capacity in the Pacific.  Sorry Aussies, but we don't have that map.  We cannot use liveries from fronts other than the ETO west front, because we do not have those fronts.

4) SQUADRONS AND GROUPS, NOT SPECIFIC PILOTS

Liveries based off of specific individuals in the past do not help DCS.  There were not 50 Mosquitos all with the same nose art and 'John Doe' written on the side ever in history.  Keep liveries to squadrons at the most specific, not pilots.

5) HISTORIC

They had to exist in history.  We do not need another Japanese what-if paint scheme, we cannot use those in DCS.

I absolutely disagree about #2,3,4.

[Night Owl]

I think the tone of the conversation should rather be that in addition to specially beautiful, creative and fancy paint schemes, it would also be really nice to get some standard period- and theatre-fitting liveries. These may be less fun to make by the artist, but since we currently don't have a single livery in the default livery pack that fits the 2nd TAF during the summer 1944 Normandy campaign, it would be greatly appreciated to get some through this competition.

 

So in short, a large panoply of different skins is great, and summer 1944 2nd TAF schemes should be part of that ideally.

Edited February 25, 2023 by Night Owl

[Night Owl]

vor 4 Stunden schrieb TJTAS:

why not pick an aircraft that actually had some interesting liveries?. How many combinations of Grey-Green, Grey-Green-Black, Grey, Yellow and Light-blue-green-brown do you want?.

The Mossie is the module with the least skins in the existing default pack, only 3, I think choosing that module for the competition makes sense.

Edited February 25, 2023 by Night Owl

[BIGNEWY]

Folks, please keep it friendly here. 

The rules for the competition are in the first post. 

We try to do a livery competition with our modules, its fun for the artists out there and we get to see some impressive work that can potentially be added to DCS.

We are looking for real liveries past and present from any mossie variant, if you want to focus on 1944 that is fine but please dont discourage other liveries. 

thank you and good luck. 

[Night Owl]

Is the competition restricted to photoshop users, did I understand this correctly?

Edited February 25, 2023 by Night Owl