draconus Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 5 hours ago, Woogey said: I hear you Hawkeye, on the subject of Qatar and Bahrain. Why on Earth would ED decide to completely omit them from the PG map when they are near the center of the High detail area, and then include them on the Iraq map when they are at the far corner of the coverage area? It baffles me how this is a plan, yet it is not possible to add Fallon to the far corner of the NTTR Map? On one hand we have a single airbase, on the other hand we have an entire country........ go figure. You're mixing map logic and hardware requirements for old and new maps - this will not make sense. They clearly have no incentive to go and expand old maps. These were created catering to performance limits in their time while modeling smaller specific area. Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
Hawkeye_UK Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 11 hours ago, Woogey said: I hear you Hawkeye, on the subject of Qatar and Bahrain. Why on Earth would ED decide to completely omit them from the PG map when they are near the center of the High detail area, and then include them on the Iraq map when they are at the far corner of the coverage area? It baffles me how this is a plan, yet it is not possible to add Fallon to the far corner of the NTTR Map? On one hand we have a single airbase, on the other hand we have an entire country........ go figure. Questions I've already asked, many many years ago re PG and NTTR, at one point i said to literally even if just put a runway there and spawn area (to give width for MP servers), no joy alas. I think part of the problem is that ED devs and producers are not making MP servers, and have little exposure on how gameplay develops due to this. 2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DCS & BMS F4E | F14B | AV-8B | F15E | F18C | F16C | F5E | F86 | A10C | JF17 | Viggen |M2000 | F1 | L-39 | C101 | Mig15 | Mig21 | Mig29 | SU27 | SU33 | F15C | AH64 | MI8 | Mi24 | Huey | KA50 | Gazelle | CH47 | OH58D | P47 | P51 | BF109 | FW190A/D | Spitfire | Mossie | CA | Persian Gulf | Nevada | Normandy | Channel | Syria | South Atlantic | Sinai | Kola | Afgan | Iraq Liquid Cooled ROG 690 13700K @ 5.9Ghz | RTX3090 FTW Ultra | 64GB DDR4 3600 MHz | 2x2TB SSD m2 Samsung 980/990 | Pimax Crystal/Reverb G2 | MFG Crosswinds | Virpil T50/CM3 | Winwing & Cougar MFD's | Buddyfox UFC | Winwing TOP & CP | Jetseat
JohnMclane Posted December 24, 2024 Posted December 24, 2024 So Afghan will have received zero updates in 2024 after initial release... Bummer. 5 1
Ala12Rv-Tundra Posted December 24, 2024 Posted December 24, 2024 1 hour ago, JohnMclane said: So Afghan will have received zero updates in 2024 after initial release... Bummer. excelent username and profile pic for posting precisely today 5 i5 8400 | 32 Gb RAM | RTX 2080Ti | Virpil Mongoose T-50 base w/ Warthog & Hornet sticks | Warthog throttle | Cougar throttle USB | Orion 2 throttle base w/ Viper & Hornet grips| VKB T-Rudder Mk IV | Oculus Rift S | Buddy-Fox A-10 UFC | 2x TM MFDs & 1x WW DDI | 2x Bass shakers | SIMple SIMpit chair | WW TakeOff panel | Andre JetSeat | WW Hornet UFC | WW Viper ICP FC3 - Warthog - F-5E - Harrier - NTTR - Hornet - Tomcat - Huey - Viper - C-101 - PG - Hip - SuperCarrier - Syria - Warthog II - Hind - South Atlantic - Sinai - Strike Eagle - Phantom - Mirage F1 - Afghanistan - Irak
huchanronaa Posted January 1 Posted January 1 (edited) What a tragedy! The map of Afghanistan has not been updated since its release in July. Even the map of eastern Afghanistan has not been released. This has greatly affected customers’ trust in ed. Of course, if ed only wants to make money by publishing the map of Iraq and does not care about their reputation, it is a shame. I didn't say anything Edited January 1 by huchanronaa
kitten40 Posted January 1 Posted January 1 (edited) Yes, it's a shame. On my end, the people that I've convinced to come to DCS, I've also recently told them to wait pending future 'updates' Edited January 1 by kitten40 missing end of sentence Ryzen 7 5800X3D, MSI B450 Tomahawk Max, 64GB DDR4, EVGA RTX 3080Ti FTW3, (Was Reverb G2 / Now Quest 3) Fixed Wing: F18, FW190A&D, M2000, MiG21, Mosquito, P47, P51, Spitfire, Yak52, A10CII, Viggen, BF109, C.EagleII, F14, F16, F4E, F5E, FC3/4 Rotor: KA50III, Mi24, Mi8, OH58, Gazelle, UH1H Huey, Apache, CH47 Maps/Misc :Supercarrier, Combined Arms, WWII Asset Pack, Afghanistan, Caucasus, South Atlantic, Iraq, Kola, Marianas, Nevada, Persian Gulf, Sinai, Syria, The Channel
Weta43 Posted January 20 Posted January 20 On 3/24/2024 at 1:47 PM, NineLine said: Once again, the entire country of Afghanistan will be delivered in phases. Thanks. A new year, another patch, and still nothing (absolutely nothing) for Afghanistan. 7 months since release into EA: not only have none of the 3 monthly releases of other areas of the map happened, not only has there not even been bug fixing happening, the most egregious thing is that E.D. have made no meaningful effort to keep purchasers aware of what their plans are. Are you rebuilding the terrain, are you re-doing the textures, are you spending all this time adding access to the sea so 0.5% of purchasers can spend an entire day flying one mission? Is Afghanistan E.D.'s Yak-52 of maps? (i.e. we thought it would be a good idea, but not enough people bought it to make continuing with development a revenue positive activity & now Iraq's out working on something more popular makes sense) or are you all just waiting to blow our minds with a fantastic mega-upload that exceeds our expectations ? ?????????????????????????????????????????????? 13 Cheers.
OldFlyer Posted January 21 Posted January 21 @Wags Perhaps you can include an update on this in your next Q&A? In the last Q&A you talked about more transparency going forward - see post above, the Afghanistan map feels like a good place to start. 6
Razorback Posted January 21 Posted January 21 (edited) What's really surprising is that both the AFG and IRQ maps were developed in-house by ED...during the same period. It takes several months (or even years) to produce these maps, and in the end the quality of the modelisation is quite different. Not on the same standard... This gives the impression that even within ED there is a lack of communication and coordination between the teams of developers. Production coordinator and supervisor at ED ? Quality Control? Anyway... Once again, one wonders if there is a captain to manage the ship. All in all, it's yet another blunder that brings DCS's operations into disrepute. Personally, my purchases of modules on DCS are on “Hold” mode, and probably will be for a long time. This chaos linked to the AFG map is one worry too many. At this point, my confidence is totally broken. Edited January 21 by Razorback 9
draconus Posted January 21 Posted January 21 13 hours ago, Weta43 said: Are you rebuilding the terrain, are you re-doing the textures, are you spending all this time adding access to the sea so 0.5% of purchasers can spend an entire day flying one mission? 9 hours ago, OldFlyer said: Perhaps you can include an update on this in your next Q&A? 5 hours ago, Razorback said: This gives the impression that even within ED there is a lack of communication and coordination between the teams of developers. Have you all missed the memo? Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
Razorback Posted January 21 Posted January 21 2 hours ago, draconus said: Have you all missed the memo? Memo based on what ? I still don't think I've seen a single screenshot in 7 months linked to the update of quality of the map... Statements like that can be made and received every week... But for the moment they're just empty words, as it was the case at the time of the release, when we were told we'd have an update every 3 months.... I'm personally convinced that improvements are being made, but at what rate? At the end, it's totally incomprehensible to me that two ED maps are released within a few months of each other, and that one of them has to be almost completely reworked to "meets the expected quality standards". Is ED really hoping that customers will buy the complete maps when availability schedules are likely to be completely different from what has been announced? Yes, we're passionate gamers who spend several hours a week on our favourite simulator, but patience has its limits and ED has to stop treating customers as just wallets that will open blindly to replenish ED's money coffers. 11
Nightstalker Posted January 22 Posted January 22 Saying we're working on it and you will be happy with the results is not an update. The whole map was supposed to be completed by now as per their original FAQ. We are way behind schedule and we are getting next to no communication on it. Due to this, I didn't buy the Iraq map, which in all honesty I would have preferred. I'm not doing it anymore. 5
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted January 22 ED Team Posted January 22 Just now, Nightstalker said: Saying we're working on it and you will be happy with the results is not an update. The whole map was supposed to be completed by now as per their original FAQ. We are way behind schedule and we are getting next to no communication on it. Due to this, I didn't buy the Iraq map, which in all honesty I would have preferred. I'm not doing it anymore. Sorry you are not happy, sometimes tasks do take longer than we would like. Nothing I or you say will make the work go faster, so we all have to be patient. 3 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
AvgeekJoe Posted January 22 Posted January 22 Well said @BIGNEWY. Rather have stability and quality than quick and dirty . Working on missions on the NTTR map, and good to know it won't change suddenly - especially as some of the waypoints are below the valleys. Keep on keeping on! 1
inexus Posted January 24 Posted January 24 New patch, still nothing... 3 13900@5.8Ghz, Asus TUF 4090 OC, 64GB@6400mhz DDR5, 4K, TrackIR 5, Tobii, Virpil CM2, CM3 CH-47F | OH-58D | F-15E | F-16C | F/A-18C | A-10C | A-10C II | AV-8B | AH-64D | MI-24P | MI-8 | BS 2 | UH-1H | Mosquito | BF 109 | Spitfire | P-47D | CA | SC | WWII AP
Weta43 Posted January 25 Posted January 25 (edited) & nothing in the newsletter today, not even a “work continues”. …Although perhaps that’s fair if it doesn’t Edited January 25 by Weta43 3 Cheers.
JohnMclane Posted January 25 Posted January 25 I don't really know how common it is for a game to release in EA and receive no updates for the 7 following months, but at this point, it just feels like I actually bought a demo and that the actual thing will come out in full eventually... Thankfully I have plenty other maps to play with in the meantime but it is somewhat annoying...
draconus Posted January 25 Posted January 25 8 minutes ago, JohnMclane said: I don't really know how common it is for a game to release in EA and receive no updates for the 7 following months... Sinai holds a record of 12 months. 3 Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
JohnMclane Posted January 25 Posted January 25 (edited) 21 minutes ago, draconus said: Sinai holds a record of 12 months. Remember Sinai being a home run release, at least quality wise... Don't remember if it released in EA or as a finished product. Just went back and checked for <profanity>s and giggles, while Iraq did release as early access, Afghan did not so there's that... Edited January 25 by JohnMclane 1
huchanronaa Posted January 27 Posted January 27 How sad! Credit is broken! No updates after seven months of release, even the map of eastern Afghanistan doesn't know where it is 4
Weta43 Posted January 31 Posted January 31 Another week, and still the sound of crickets where news on the map should be …. 2 Cheers.
Gunnar81 Posted January 31 Posted January 31 I think the next update for this map is going to add another big portion plus bring it up to Iraq standards so we just gotta be patient to get the reward. EA remember... 4
ED Team NineLine Posted January 31 Author ED Team Posted January 31 Yes, we are working on a very large update for the map which includes another entire portion. When we are happy with the look of it, we will release, I am hoping not too long from now. 10 3 Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
admiki Posted February 4 Posted February 4 (edited) That's all great, but not enough. You guys just went overboard with how much behind the schedule you are. In industry I work in, something like this would trigger full refund for those that want it and apology credits for "possible" future purchase. Unfortunately, this is what customers get when there is basically a monopoly position being held by ED. Edited February 4 by admiki 8 1
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