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[Migparts]

Wow, some people are scheduling their off work leaves, based on the release dates of modules. I didn’t think that this kind of thing happens but it seems it does. 

Happy 4th of July to all American friends. 

[Ripcord03]

5 minutes ago, Migparts said:

Wow, some people are scheduling their off work leaves, based on the release dates of modules. I didn’t think that this kind of thing happens but it seems it does. 

Happy 4th of July to all American friends. 

Yea, happens more than you think, If I have a holiday/weekend and a game or module I really Really want to invest time in is supposed to release that same week, I often will try to arrange at least one day extra day off to give myself time to enjoy it cause I often have other commitments on weekends/holidays. 

I also have a buddy who took off the 26th when it was originally going to be released. 
It is what it is, luckily, its not that big of a deal for me as I can always find something to do with my kids and still get my paid time off.

Edited July 4, 2024 by Ripcord03

[Blazkovitch]

2 minutes ago, Ripcord03 said:

Yea, happens more than you think, If I have a holiday/weekend and a game or module I really Really want to invest time in is supposed to release that same week, I often will try to arrange at least one day extra day off to give myself time to enjoy it cause I often have other commitments on weeknds/holidays.

But you know you could just wait for the release and only then schedule the time off? Module is not going to vanish after a month.
 

ED is not using FOMO, people are doing it to themselves. 

[Mick0815]

I also find it regrettable that there is this further delay. But I also know that a good product takes time and that there can be unforeseeable difficulties in software development and that setbacks have to be factored in during the course of development. However, what is to be criticised and what annoys people is DCS's inadequate information policy. I think the customers and supporters have the right to a more offensive and honest information policy. They should perhaps be a little more careful with their scheduling in future. I think that would be more acceptable to customers. 
Otherwise, I still hope for a timely solution to the problem and wish the developers every success in this matter.

 

[Grennymaster]

is the communication from ED always perfekt, no. BUT they are humans also

Software is not an easy task. I work in Fibre Soulutions, so we also have Software that always needs to be programmed. Many many times, our Team have a date and everythings seems to go as planed, but a few hours to the release something very unexpectet happens......

so thats why im not mad at ED for delays at the last moment, this can and will happen. Not just to ED.

I think we all need to learn again to be more forgiving. We share the same Hobby and passion, that should bind us, not seperate us.

I would never take a day off for a realease date, a module or a game in gernerall will be there after that day no offence to anyone that does it, i just dont think its a good plan

since it god anounced im hyped for it and would love to get in the pilot seat but hey, its not like the world is going down if it takes longer than i hoped

better to get an good early acces then get a unplayable one .)

 

[Ganesh]

vor 1 Stunde schrieb Grennymaster:

I think we all need to learn again to be more forgiving. We share the same Hobby and passion, that should bind us, not seperate us.

Exactly!

Edited July 4, 2024 by Ganesh

[Hiob]

10 hours ago, Gunnar81 said:

First post is a doom post.

I have my own theory about all those fresh accounts that spread bad energy right from the get go - but spelling it out would probably give me some warning points.
However - I hope ED is aware of potential problems and monitors this.

[Mick0815]

vor 2 Stunden schrieb Grennymaster:

is the communication from ED always perfekt, no. BUT they are humans also

Software is not an easy task. I work in Fibre Soulutions, so we also have Software that always needs to be programmed. Many many times, our Team have a date and everythings seems to go as planed, but a few hours to the release something very unexpectet happens......

so thats why im not mad at ED for delays at the last moment, this can and will happen. Not just to ED.

I think we all need to learn again to be more forgiving. We share the same Hobby and passion, that should bind us, not seperate us.

I would never take a day off for a realease date, a module or a game in gernerall will be there after that day no offence to anyone that does it, i just dont think its a good plan

since it god anounced im hyped for it and would love to get in the pilot seat but hey, its not like the world is going down if it takes longer than i hoped

better to get an good early acces then get a unplayable one .)

 

But you shouldn't make the mistake of forgiving everything, just as you shouldn't tell your children that they do everything great even though it's "only" average or bad. Nowadays, it is also a fact that the economic interests of entrepreneurs sometimes lead to poor performance or an overestimation of their own capabilities.
Objective criticism, including of unfulfilled promises, must therefore also take place as part of a self-assessment of the company's performance. There is the salesperson who promises and the technician or developer who then has to deal with the problem of meeting the deadline and often enough the technician has the disadvantage or the product then has the fault.
In this case, one should be understanding, but forgiveness is a little much to ask.

 

[Chinooklad]

With yet another, last minute delay, ED, fot the love of all that you have worked on for the past 15 years, please delay all there is to be delayed until it is actually ready. This is going into comedical teritory, which is a terrible look for a professional company. When the two weeks for Chinook run out, please don't commit to 'Critical errors detected 10 seconds before launch' excuse and just actually make it functioning, acceptably complete and proper before you give it to us. Please? 

[Chinooklad]

Just delay it for a few months, raise the bar for features, polish what will be a great module if you put in the effort required and everyone will be happy. 

[MAXsenna]

I have my own theory about all those fresh accounts that spread bad energy right from the get go - but spelling it out would probably give me some warning points.
However - I hope ED is aware of potential problems and monitors this.

Me thinks the same.

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[JetCat]

1 hour ago, Mick0815 said:

but forgiveness is a little much to ask. But you shouldn't make the mistake of forgiving everything...

1 hour ago, Mick0815 said:

just as you shouldn't tell your children that they do everything great even though it's "only" average or bad.

There is no forgiveness. Even the children quickly noticed their shortcomings at school or at home when they suddenly got all education funds suspended, and where disowned and shipped off to the child labour brickwork factory with blast furnance (or when being to heat-sensitive to 15 hour shifts in a fish gutting trawler) while being no longer allowed to come home in the evening. Or ever again. But we are not heartless - we already stopped demanding Seppuku in our clan for children below age 10 after failed household chores in the eighties.

 

[admiki]

2 hours ago, Hiob said:

I have my own theory about all those fresh accounts that spread bad energy right from the get go - but spelling it out would probably give me some warning points.
However - I hope ED is aware of potential problems and monitors this.

 

15 minutes ago, MAXsenna said:

Me thinks the same.

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While I agree in general, I'd prefer if ED deals with their own stuff first.

[Hiob]

2 minutes ago, admiki said:

 

While I agree in general, I'd prefer if ED deals with their own stuff first.

Nature of the beast. You have to keep multiple balls in the air when running a business. Can't drop any. However, I think we're talking about different departments here.

[Freakmeister51]

5 minutes ago, admiki said:

 

While I agree in general, I'd prefer if ED deals with their own stuff first.

Here here.

[Havremonster]

On 7/3/2024 at 2:58 PM, BIGNEWY said:

sorry you are not happy, but the patch delay was necessary. 

thank you 

I was not refering to the patch, but to the Chinook CH47

[BIGNEWY]

24 minutes ago, Havremonster said:

I was not refering to the patch, but to the Chinook CH47

Understood, but again the delay is necessary, this also gives us more time for tutorial videos

thank you  

[Rogue Trooper]

12 hours ago, Migparts said:

Wow, some people are scheduling their off work leaves, based on the release dates of modules. I didn’t think that this kind of thing happens but it seems it does. 

Happy 4th of July to all American friends. 

Yep.... I did that for the Apache, but two weeks after its initial release date.

Apache is just too cool.... it would be rude not too!

Edited July 4, 2024 by Rogue Trooper

[stburr91]

7 hours ago, Hiob said:

I have my own theory about all those fresh accounts that spread bad energy right from the get go - but spelling it out would probably give me some warning points.
However - I hope ED is aware of potential problems and monitors this.

 

You have it backwards, the "bad energy" is not the fault of new forum members, it's a direct result of ED's disputes with 3rd party vendors, last minute delays, and poor communication.

I certainly understand that creating new content, and updating a game as complex as this one isn't easy, but a company that has been around for this long should be doing better. ED doesn't need to monitor new members for "potential problems", they need to figure out why they keep missing deadlines, and make adjustments. Solving these issues will make the "bad energy" go away. 

[Hammer1-1]

1 minute ago, stburr91 said:

I certainly understand that creating new content, and updating a game as complex as this one isn't easy, but a company that has been around for this long should be doing better. ED doesn't need to monitor new members for "potential problems", they need to figure out why they keep missing deadlines, and make adjustments. Solving these issues will make the "bad energy" go away. 

Im fairly certain ED doesnt need to figure out why they keep missing deadlines or making adjustments. Some people need to learn how to just "get over it" because this is the nature of software development.

[Hiob]

16 minutes ago, stburr91 said:

 

You have it backwards, the "bad energy" is not the fault of new forum members, it's a direct result of ED's disputes with 3rd party vendors, last minute delays, and poor communication.

I certainly understand that creating new content, and updating a game as complex as this one isn't easy, but a company that has been around for this long should be doing better. ED doesn't need to monitor new members for "potential problems", they need to figure out why they keep missing deadlines, and make adjustments. Solving these issues will make the "bad energy" go away. 

You felt addressed?

[stburr91]

3 minutes ago, Hammer1-1 said:

Im fairly certain ED doesnt need to figure out why they keep missing deadlines or making adjustments. Some people need to learn how to just "get over it" because this is the nature of software development.

 

There's nothing for me to get over, I wasn't going to buy any of the new content, so the delay doesn't really matter to me personally. 

One delay isn't a problem, because as you say, that's the nature of software development, but when it keeps happening, along with the other things going on, it has an effect. The reviews on Steam reflect the general feelings about how things have been going recently...so yes, I think it's time for some adjustments. 

[stburr91]

Just now, Hiob said:

You felt addressed?

 

No, because I assume your conspiracy theory about new members has something to do with 'the dispute".

I was just pointing out the cause of the "bad energy" so we can put the conspiracy theories aside.  

[Hammer1-1]

9 minutes ago, stburr91 said:

 

There's nothing for me to get over, I wasn't going to buy any of the new content, so the delay doesn't really matter to me personally. 

One delay isn't a problem, because as you say, that's the nature of software development, but when it keeps happening, along with the other things going on, it has an effect. The reviews on Steam reflect the general feelings about how things have been going recently...so yes, I think it's time for some adjustments. 

you do understand that there are over 30 modules that need to get updated, right?  you expect them ALL to conform the first time around EVERY TIME AROUND? Again, its something you're going to have to get over, its not just ED causing the delays. Thats not just counting aircraft, thats including terrain, campaigns, and assets packs. Count them in, 60+ items need addressed.

Edited July 4, 2024 by Hammer1-1

[Thump]

9 minutes ago, stburr91 said:

 

There's nothing for me to get over, I wasn't going to buy any of the new content, so the delay doesn't really matter to me personally. 

One delay isn't a problem, because as you say, that's the nature of software development, but when it keeps happening, along with the other things going on, it has an effect. The reviews on Steam reflect the general feelings about how things have been going recently...so yes, I think it's time for some adjustments. 

ED can do no wrong (or improve) apparently.