DCS: CH-47F Early Access Guide

[BIGNEWY]

Release of the DCS: CH-47F Early Access Guide!

Dear Pilots and DCS Enthusiasts,

We are thrilled to announce the release of the draft DCS: CH-47F Early Access Guide that will be updated during Early Access development. 

How to Access the Guide:
The DCS: CH-47F Early Access Guide draft is available for download on our official website here. Make sure to check it out and familiarize yourself with the systems and operations of this impressive aircraft.

Thank you for your continued support and passion for DCS World. We cannot wait to see you in the virtual skies, mastering the DCS: CH-47F Chinook!

Best regards
Eagle Dynamics 

[ThorBrasil]

Thanks for the early release. Looking forward to flying the CH-47F.

[Charrua]

Gracias - Thanks

[Robi Hobby]

   Dankeschön ,  Grazie , Thank you very much.

[Cyborg71]

I need an eyesight test. I read Bignewy's first line as 'Dear DCS Pilots and euthanasiaists'.

Help me.

[Kurothas]

Awesome @BIGNEWY!

Highly appreciated. Looking forward to the release!

[SlipHavoc]

Very interesting, thanks!  A few things I noticed:

1. The FAQ says "DAFCS and force trim" will be coming later in early access, but on page 56-57 the description of the Centering Device Release Button sounds like the force trim system that is available on most other DCS helicopters.  There was a good deal of speculation about what the trim system was going to be, so it'll be interesting to see what the initial implementation ends up being.
2. In the startup checklist (starting on page 77), page 81 says to turn on the PWR XFER 1 and PWR XFER 2 switches after starting the APU.  This is also in the abbreviated startup checklist on page 133.  There was a comment about those switches on the YouTube startup video (and related poo-flinging in reddit), as that step was not shown in the video.  I would say I hope this serves as a lesson to people to be patient, but I know it won't be.  Poo-flinging is so much more entertaining, unfortunately.
3. Logistics features are detailed starting on page 115.  Looks like there's a new cargo loading interface integrated with the rearming screen, and implying that it interfaces with the internal warehouse APIs.  And if I'm reading it right, when the module is complete it looks like we will be able to carry up to 7 different types of cargo simultaneously: 4 internal pallets and 3 external sling loads.

[Raptor9]

45 minutes ago, SlipHavoc said:

In the startup checklist (starting on page 77), page 81 says to turn on the PWR XFER 1 and PWR XFER 2 switches after starting the APU.  This is also in the abbreviated startup checklist on page 133.  There was a comment about those switches on the YouTube startup video (and related poo-flinging in reddit), as that step was not shown in the video.  I would say I hope this serves as a lesson to people to be patient, but I know it won't be.  Poo-flinging is so much more entertaining, unfortunately.

As Wags stated in his video, he was just showing what is needed to get the CH-47F engines started. There are a lot of other things that will be added to the Early Access Guide over time, such as how to perform a flight controls check, setup the navigation systems, etc. But many of these checks are not needed to just go fly in the game; even the FADEC checks are not required despite being shown in the Early Access Guide procedures. If players want to run through every item that would be performed in real-life, they can certainly do that, but that wasn't the intent of the video. Personally, I never do a flight controls check when I get in the F-16 or F-18 either, but I think some people insist on speculating on things to start drama when it really isn't necessary. Not saying you were doing it, just agreeing with you it was hardly worth getting upset over.

45 minutes ago, SlipHavoc said:

And if I'm reading it right, when the module is complete it looks like we will be able to carry up to 7 different types of cargo simultaneously: 4 internal pallets and 3 external sling loads.

Don't read into the graphics showing the internal cargo loading. It just happened to show a graphic with four pallets numbered in a manner to illustrate the reverse loading concept and why you can't unload the pallets that are in front of others, not without cutting the aircraft in half.

Edited July 17, 2024 by Raptor9

[SlipHavoc]

6 minutes ago, Raptor9 said:

As Wags stated in his video, he was just showing what is needed to get the CH-47F engines started. There are a lot of other things that will be added to the Early Access Guide over time, such as how to perform a flight controls check, setup the navigation systems, etc. But many of these checks are not needed to just go fly; even the FADEC checks are not required despite being shown in the Early Access Guide procedures. If players want to run through every item that would be performed in real-life, they can certainly do that, but that wasn't the intent of the video. Personally, I never do a flight controls check when I get in the F-16 or F-18 either, but I think some people insist on speculating on things to start drama when it really isn't necessary. Not saying you were doing it, just agreeing with you it was hardly worth getting upset over.

Don't read into the graphics showing the internal cargo loading. It just happened to show a graphic with four pallets numbered in a manner to illustrate the reverse loading concept and why you can't unload the pallets that are in front of others, not without cutting the aircraft in half.

I'm aware that the video was a very basic startup sequence, but at least one of the YT comments was about the PWR XFER switches specifically, and there was related moaning about it on one of the reddits, and I thought it was interesting that those switches were mentioned in the manual.  I too never bother with the full and complete startup sequences including all the self-tests and BITs and fire light checks and whatnot.  If I wanted to do the boring part of flying, I'd join the air force...  In fact I created and released a utility specifically to completely automate and customize the startup and shutdown scripts (like the built-in autostart sequences, but more so, and MP server compatible) so that I never have to do them manually.

For the cargo loading, good to know, thanks!

[shagrat]

vor 12 Stunden schrieb SlipHavoc:

there was related moaning about it on one of the reddits,

Pretty much answers everything itself, I gues...

[Slippa]

16 hours ago, Cyborg71 said:

I need an eyesight test. I read Bignewy's first line as 'Dear DCS Pilots and euthanasiaists'.

Help me.

 Keep taking the tablets.

No, not those tablets.

Cheers for the guide BigN .

[ThorBrasil]

@BIGNEWY @Raptor9 I noticed that these instruments in the screenshot below are missing from the early access manual. Will this come during early access or has it been removed? Thank You!

Edited July 19, 2024 by ThorBrasil

[flyingscotsman]

Thanks for the  handbook......what with the Phantom, The Kiowa, The f-15e.....I reckon I'm gonna fail the Helicopter ground attack fighter pilot exam....any day! lol

Loved being in the Chinook when it first entered RAF Service....would'nt recongise it now.

[Slippa]

1 hour ago, flyingscotsman said:

....any day!

Nah, you've got at least a fortnight .

[Cyborg71]

Scanning through the manual, did I miss it - or is there no rotor brake switch or lever on the 47f?

In anticipation of an expert or sme reply.......

Thank you.

[slowmover]

9 minutes ago, Cyborg71 said:

Scanning through the manual, did I miss it - or is there no rotor brake switch or lever on the 47f?

In anticipation of an expert or sme reply.......

Thank you.

I think there is not mate

[Cyborg71]

1 hour ago, slowmover said:

I think there is not mate

Thank you kindly.

[Freakmeister51]

13 hours ago, Cyborg71 said:

Thank you kindly.

Let’s face it, with the weight of those blades, I doubt the system needs a rotor brake.

[dahui]

14 minutes ago, Freakmeister51 said:

Let’s face it, with the weight of those blades, I doubt the system needs a rotor brake.

thats why it would need one.

[Smithy117]

I don't believe many countries have CH-47s with rotor brakes fitted, the British RAF being one of the few that i know actually do

[Caldero]

Hi

Spain too. It is required to operate onboard our L61 LHA

Regards

[Kev2go]

On 7/18/2024 at 1:51 PM, ThorBrasil said:

@BIGNEWY @Raptor9 I noticed that these instruments in the screenshot below are missing from the early access manual. Will this come during early access or has it been removed? Thank You!

 

Likely not. As ED seems to have instead decided to model a us army based ch47f not the ich47f 3d model teased in the dcs 2023 and beyond video

Edited July 20, 2024 by Kev2go

[ThorBrasil]

17 minutes ago, Kev2go said:

Likely not. As ED seems to have instead decided to model a us army based ch47f not the ich47f 3d model teased in the dcs 2023 and beyond video

 

@BIGNEWY @Raptor9

I understand that they didn't do what was announced, but at the very least they could give a statement about it. I wouldn't be upset if they said that they were excluded from the project due to the confidentiality of the equipment. Now, I think ignoring it is a disservice to the buyer. A lack of respect.

[Raptor9]

1 hour ago, ThorBrasil said:

I understand that they didn't do what was announced, but at the very least they could give a statement about it. I wouldn't be upset if they said that they were excluded from the project due to the confidentiality of the equipment. Now, I think ignoring it is a disservice to the buyer. A lack of respect.

@ThorBrasil, I have never seen anyone from ED make any official statement other than that of a "US Army CH-47F" variant, so I don't understand what lack of respect you are referring to or where you are inferring that promises or announcements were made otherwise.

There are some clear exterior and interior differences between the original teaser in the 2023 and Beyond video, but those were obviously corrected following research to ensure the product was accurately reflecting the configuration of a CH-47F in the US Army, the level of authenticity of which is what ED strives for when making aircraft modules. Such corrections in the interest of authenticity are not new in DCS nor are they isolated to the DCS CH-47F.

[Cyborg71]

9 hours ago, Smithy117 said:

I don't believe many countries have CH-47s with rotor brakes fitted, the British RAF being one of the few that i know actually do

I think thsts probably where my confusion originated. That inspiring footage of the British medivac crew rushing to extract and save a soldier (who tragically dies). There's moment during start up where the pilot pulls a rotor brake in the roof of the cockpit. It's a mighty looking lever. 

I was expecting at least a switch........