release candidate in testing for launch later in 2025 Cold War Germany discussion

[Volator]

On 2/6/2025 at 9:32 AM, Rongor said:

Rhein-Ruhr could hardly be left out since at least half of cold war NATO airbases in Germany were west or at least close to it.

People shouldn't only focus on American related Ramstein, Spangdahlem and Bitburg exclusively.

Cold War air bases would rely on Büchel, Nörvenich and NATO at Geilenkirchen as well. Also RAF bases in Germany like Laarbruch, Wildenrath, Brüggen and Gütersloh.

Since the Navy dudettes want some water to fly their missions from the boat, we will need the North Sea and the Baltic Sea in the simulated area, so the airbases we really want are: Wittmund, Jever, Oldenburg, Nordholz, Husum, Leck, Schleswig, Eggebek, Kiel, Laage, Ribnitz-Damgarten, Parow, Peenemünde... just to name a few.

... and Ahlhorn (along with the A28 highway strip), Diepholz, Wunstorf, Hopsten... and I forgot the German Army airbases, so Bueckeburg, Itzehoe and Rheine-Bentlage as well of course

 

Edited February 7 by Volator

[sirrah]

Meanwhile..

Ugra reading through this thread:

 

[TheBiggerBass]

I'd like Cologne please to land with a heli in front of the dome 

[twistking]

47 minutes ago, Volator said:

 Wittmund, Jever, Oldenburg, Nordholz, Husum, Leck, Schleswig, Eggebek, Kiel, Laage, Ribnitz-Damgarten, Parow, Peenemünde... just to name a few.

... and Ahlhorn (along with the A28 highway strip), Diepholz, Wunstorf, Hopsten... and I forgot the German Army airbases, so Bueckeburg, Itzehoe and Rheine-Bentlage as well of course

Horstenfeld-Beckenburg, Lümpfnitz-Daal, Siegsdam, Brähm, Heidhut, Loggenfeld-Stulzenrübe, Üppel, Pfropsten, Auerscheid-Stülzlangen and of course not to forget the highway strip A38/B65 between Knätsdorf and Humpenlump-Kreutzingen!

Edited February 7 by twistking

[Volator]

4 minutes ago, twistking said:

Horstenfeld-Beckenburg, Lümpfnitz-Daal, Siegsdam, Brähm, Heidhut, Loggenfeld-Stulzenrübe, Üppel, Pfropsten, Auerscheid-Stülzlangen and of course not to forget the highway strip A38/B65 between Knätsdorf and Humpenlump-Kreutzingen!

Oh, which Air Force, Naval or Army units were based there?

[MAXsenna]

I'd like Cologne please to land with a heli in front of the dome 

Goth based!

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[twistking]

1 minute ago, Volator said:

Oh, which Air Force, Naval or Army units were based there?

Army Units? I thought we were just listing names that sound funny...

[twistking]

1 hour ago, Volator said:

Since the Navy dudettes want some water to fly their missions from the boat, we will need the North Sea and the Baltic Sea in the simulated area, so the airbases we really want are: Wittmund, Jever, Oldenburg, Nordholz, Husum, Leck, Schleswig, Eggebek, Kiel, Laage, Ribnitz-Damgarten, Parow, Peenemünde... just to name a few.

... and Ahlhorn (along with the A28 highway strip), Diepholz, Wunstorf, Hopsten... and I forgot the German Army airbases, so Bueckeburg, Itzehoe and Rheine-Bentlage as well of course

 

...but jokes aside, i would really appreciate both the North Sea and Baltic coast with some bases for the Marineflieger!

Edited February 7 by twistking

[MiGCap1]

On 2/7/2025 at 9:02 PM, twistking said:

Horstenfeld-Beckenburg, Lümpfnitz-Daal, Siegsdam, Brähm, Heidhut, Loggenfeld-Stulzenrübe, Üppel, Pfropsten, Auerscheid-Stülzlangen and of course not to forget the highway strip A38/B65 between Knätsdorf and Humpenlump-Kreutzingen!

 

 

On 2/7/2025 at 9:20 PM, twistking said:

...but jokes aside, i would really appreciate both the North Sea and Baltic coast with some bases for the Marineflieger!

 

I agree 110 per cent!

 

Edited February 12 by MiGCap1

[Northstar98]

On 2/7/2025 at 8:20 PM, twistking said:

...but jokes aside, i would really appreciate both the North Sea and Baltic coast with some bases for the Marineflieger!

Absolutely agreed.

It would also include the North German Plain which was identified as a significant probable axis of advance in the event of the Cold War going hot (and includes ports as relevant targets), not to mention airbases in the North (such as Damgarten (773 IAP - we already have a MiG-21bis and a 9.12 MiG-29) and Wittmundhafen (JG 71 - we've got JG 71 liveries for the F-4E, we're getting an F-104G of some description)).

EDIT: The current La Combattante IIa is depicted as a late FRG Type 148 Tiger, so depending on how much water we get, that vessel would be right at home (if only it could get MM38 Exocet Block 1).

It may also enable carrier-based aviation and anti-shipping missions in general and we are getting a Luftwaffe Tornado with Kormoran (so right at home), not sure about Aerges F-104G, though it would be nice to depict Marineflieger units.

Edited March 4 by Northstar98

[Thamiel]

On 2/7/2025 at 8:15 PM, Volator said:

Since the Navy dudettes want some water to fly their missions from the boat, we will need the North Sea and the Baltic Sea in the simulated area, so the airbases we really want are: Wittmund, Jever, Oldenburg, Nordholz, Husum, Leck, Schleswig, Eggebek, Kiel, Laage, Ribnitz-Damgarten, Parow, Peenemünde... just to name a few.

... and Ahlhorn (along with the A28 highway strip), Diepholz, Wunstorf, Hopsten... and I forgot the German Army airbases, so Bueckeburg, Itzehoe and Rheine-Bentlage as well of course

 

I cannot help but having a difficult time imagining a carrier in the baltic sea. With all those airfields around it looks a bit superfluous, not mentioning the mud you have to scratch out of the propellers after passing Malmö.

[MAXsenna]

6 hours ago, Thamiel said:

I cannot help but having a difficult time imagining a carrier in the baltic sea. With all those airfields around it looks a bit superfluous, not mentioning the mud you have to scratch out of the propellers after passing Malmö.

Why on earth would you take that route? True, the median depth is 11 meters or so, while Lillebælt (where the stream of water pass from the Baltic to Kattegatt), and Storebælt, (where ships actually sail), have respectively 75m and 60m. More than adequate. The problem is the bridges. Sailing height (?), "seilingshøyde" is 57m for Øresund, 33 for Lillebælt and 65m for Storebælt. "Bridges too Low" in other words.

Edited March 8 by MAXsenna

[Thamiel]

Although as cultural obstacles, "Bridges too low" could easily be remedied by a well-aimed 2000lbs. bean or two. Something of a Nimitz class steaming circles in Lake Mead right next to Nellis.

[Northstar98]

Just reading the newsletter and I'm delighted with the scope of the map:

 

But please, please, please include empty air defence sites (this being a near perfect example) - even if its only a generic site for each type that's copies and pasted in locations where appropriate.

The Syria map had some attempt at this, but only did so with an SA-2 and even then, apart from the revetment models, it wasn't that accurate (and some sites weren't accurately placed).

Edited 10 hours ago by Northstar98
Actually linking the example

[rcjonessnp175]

map looks like a dream come true, in my opinion dcs should focus on cold war era, but will say a ww2 version of this map would be epic as well.  Havent looked but hope the little Mainz airfield is in too

[Pingodingo]

very cool scope of the map just personally hope they would increase it slightly more in denmark so it would include Skrydstrup in suthern jutland

[maks]

Hope they can go little west more like full Belgium and Netherlands? We have/had a lot of important airbases in both countries! Koksijde,Beauvechain,Chievres,Nato strips in Ursel and Oostmalle, Volkel,Leeuwarden,…..would be great !

[BIGNEWY]

topic title edited. Forum section added. 

thank you 

[Bremspropeller]

Looks like AdlA bases...

- Colmar

- Strasbourg

- Metz

- possibly Nancy-Ochey

...will be in phase 3.

FATac galore!

 

Grostenquin (RCAF) and Marville will most certainly be in Phase 3, which is majorly nice for the upcoming F-104, as all the RCAF bases in Europe will be on the map.

Edited 8 hours ago by Bremspropeller

[Swiso]

Should be nice to have a list to all airbases included in this map.

 

[Hiob]

Was there any word about a timeline for the release that I missed?

[Aries144]

[VIKBELL]

This is going to be a epic map.