acknowledged ED, we need help as modules have been abandoned by Polychop

[Brainfreeze]

48 minutes ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said:

Says who?

Says experience that ED updates tend to break a lot of things  

[Slice313]

Things will slowly start going south without minimum maintenance. That is a fact. DCS is constantly evolving, and modules have to follow up.

[AdrianL]

The PolyChop situation is discussed here. Basically devs left as they were not paid by PolyChop.

Time linked to where the discussion starts.

 

[Ornithopter]

Polly,

It's been a while.  Would you like to have a drink with me sometime, just to catch up?

Orni

[Fitolin]

hace 20 horas, Raven (Elysian Angel) dijo:

Says who?

The experience with ED is that with each update, they fix things and break others (it's logical). If the models don't have updates to correct this, they end up breaking too.
This isn't a wish, it's a concern of a Kiowa lover.

[Devil 505]

Just want to kind of set the tone here because I have been tracking the word from ED, Polychop Discord, and news straight from them.  First and foremost @BIGNEWY has reached out multiple times to Polychop for some follow ups to questions and received no response. 

A while back (can't remember the date) it was officially announced internally they had lost a significant number of employees.  Polychop stated very clearly this had nothing to do with Eagle Dynamics or any sort of payment problems from ED, it was 100% an internal conflict.  Several months later they laid our worries to rest stating their 2 helos would continue to be supported and they were working on hiring new staff.  The message came with a welcomed response and they said they were still in the game and not going anywhere. 

Since that last post, the only thing out of Polychop was the article posted below from 02/24/2025.  I will not start rumors because I know nothing official other than the fact they have not responded to the community on the ED Forums, Discord, Youtube Videos, or their Facebook since their last post below.  We can speculate all day and stir the hate train until this thread gets shut down, but bottom line is, until someone speaks up from Polychop, we will remain in the dark.  

[Etask]

Well, this is not looking good.

I wanted to get the oh58 when it came out and now I'm glad I didn't. Too bad because it's a nice bird.

Developer's behavior is going to affect current sales, and set a bad mood on current owners. 

A quick word does not cost anything, time or effort wise. Unless something is extremely wrong. 

It is what it is, in one word: disappointing.

I will stop here as I don't want to go off topic with 3rd party developers in general. I'll be very careful where to drop my $ from now on.

Hope to be proven wrong and receive good news from Polychop. 

[RealDCSpilot]

It's sad to see that Polychop is up for bad news again. As if 7 years with no helicopter flight model for the Gazelle wasn't enough. 

[BIGNEWY]

Folks the purpose of this thread has been completed, we have passed on your feedback, now it just seems people want to pile on the team. 

As mentioned above the bottom line is we all need to wait for polychop to reply. 

The modules continue to work and be enjoyed by many, when the team is ready they will let us all know. 

thank you 

[Profligate]

I'm really keen on buying the OH-58 Kiowa but it seems completely abandoned. I read that despite the problems in Polychop simulations that their modules were going to continue being supported but it seems that everything from their website to their Discord server are completely abandoned.

[Tom Kazansky]

8 minutes ago, Profligate said:

I'm really keen on buying the OH-58 Kiowa but it seems completely abandoned. I read that despite the problems in Polychop simulations that their modules were going to continue being supported but it seems that everything from their website to their Discord server are completely abandoned.

Maybe the fact that you can't ask Polychop is already your answer?

Let's hope for better times.

[The Gryphon]

On 10/11/2025 at 1:18 AM, Profligate said:

I'm really keen on buying the OH-58 Kiowa but it seems completely abandoned. I read that despite the problems in Polychop simulations that their modules were going to continue being supported but it seems that everything from their website to their Discord server are completely abandoned.

Do not buy the OH-58, it has no developer support. In other words the OH-58 will be broken as time passes with no fixes. The OH-58 Kiowa should be removed from the store.

[Schmidtfire]

On 10/11/2025 at 1:18 AM, Profligate said:

I'm really keen on buying the OH-58 Kiowa but it seems completely abandoned. I read that despite the problems in Polychop simulations that their modules were going to continue being supported but it seems that everything from their website to their Discord server are completely abandoned.

This is a 69.99$ module. There should not be any doubt what the customers are buying into.

On that note, I can't recommend a purchase. 

Edited Monday at 06:17 PM by Schmidtfire

[TheBiggerBass]

I suggest that ED continue to offer this (and other modules that are no longer supported) in the shop, but clearly label these modules as “no further maintenance.” Then it will be clear to all customers that these modules are being sold as is.

Edited Monday at 09:34 PM by TheBiggerBass

[Tomcatter87]

I got the Kiowa not too long ago - that module works great and is lots of fun to fly. I did not encounter a single bug while flying it. I my opinion you'd be missing something if you chose not to buy it because "some day" it might be broken. 

[Lace]

If you want to fly the Kiowa then buy the Kiowa.  There are plenty of other modules which haven't seen an update in years which are still more than useable.  If it is likely to be discontinued in the future then all the more reason to buy it now.  It isn't my favourite helicopter (the Gazelle is, another Polychop product) but it is a good module and fun to fly and mostly complete and bug free (as much as any DCS module can be).

 

[BIGNEWY]

again some people here are getting way ahead of themselves. The modules are working, thousands of people enjoy them every day. I get that its difficult when the development team are quiet and you all want new updates and information, but as you know teams will share news when they are ready to. 

thank you 

[TheBiggerBass]

vor 38 Minuten schrieb BIGNEWY:

again some people here are getting way ahead of themselves. The modules are working, thousands of people enjoy them every day. I get that its difficult when the development team are quiet and you all want new updates and information, but as you know teams will share news when they are ready to. 

thank you 

I agree. A clear note stating “No further maintenance” on the purchase page should dispel any unrealistic expectations. Take it as it is or move on.

[Hiob]

1 hour ago, Lace said:

If you want to fly the Kiowa then buy the Kiowa.  There are plenty of other modules which haven't seen an update in years which are still more than useable.  If it is likely to be discontinued in the future then all the more reason to buy it now.  It isn't my favourite helicopter (the Gazelle is, another Polychop product) but it is a good module and fun to fly and mostly complete and bug free (as much as any DCS module can be).

 

This! 100% agree.

 

[Renko]

1 hour ago, BIGNEWY said:

again some people here are getting way ahead of themselves. The modules are working, thousands of people enjoy them every day. I get that its difficult when the development team are quiet and you all want new updates and information, but as you know teams will share news when they are ready to. 

thank you 

With all due respect, users are concerned, and rightly so.

At the moment, if I report a bug, I won't receive a response from any member of the Polychop team.
The CEO is nowhere to be found, even through DMs from people who have worked with him.
The only developer working now cannot communicate with users in public forums without the previous CEO's approval.

Yes the Kiowa was feature completed when it launched, but that doesnt mean there were bugs and there are bugs. It needs maintenance.
And since Polychov used discord for reporting bugs, one just need to take a look there to see how those reports are doing in all this time.

We are talking about a module released last year, so it is understandable that users are concerned about this zero-comms situation that creates all this uncertainty.

The way to stop the uncertainty? A brief announcement from the CEO adressing the situation.
(Last public message from him was in January 2025)

[BIGNEWY]

12 minutes ago, Renko said:

With all due respect, users are concerned, and rightly so.

At the moment, if I report a bug, I won't receive a response from any member of the Polychop team.
The CEO is nowhere to be found, even through DMs from people who have worked with him.
The only developer working now cannot communicate with users in public forums without the previous CEO's approval.

Yes the Kiowa was feature completed when it launched, but that doesnt mean there were bugs and there are bugs. It needs maintenance.
And since Polychov used discord for reporting bugs, one just need to take a look there to see how those reports are doing in all this time.

We are talking about a module released last year, so it is understandable that users are concerned about this zero-comms situation that creates all this uncertainty.

The way to stop the uncertainty? A brief announcement from the CEO adressing the situation.
(Last public message from him was in January 2025)

I get that and as we have mentioned before we have passed the feedback to the team. But some posting here would have you believe that the modules are not working and the worse has already happened.  

[Slice313]

It's helpful for everyone to stay aware of the situation and respond accordingly, for the time being, Kiowa is a "risk", hopefully we get some good news. ED doesn't really abandon its modules, if you haven't seen updates lately, it's usually because the module is considered feature complete on their end, or because fixing certain bugs just takes a long time. Hope this message is within the rules!

[Slippa]

Life’s too short.

If you fancy the Kiowa just grab it and enjoy it for what it is. Lace hit the nail on the head really. I wouldn’t call it unusable, I fly it now and then, last time I tried it was fine. It’s a lot slower and less lively than the Gaz so buy both, you won’t be disappointed 

Something’s going on with Polychop, let them deal with the dramas. For now the Kiowa’s fine.

[Ramius007]

Gazelle didnt get any update for a year or more, still is working perfectly fine, and is in better state than a lot of "maintained" modules. Even if there are no signs from PC, I would expect fixes, if something become broken in KW (or Gazelle)

[TheBiggerBass]

Without knowing the legal and contractual implications, I wonder whether it would make sense or be possible to make the source code of abandoned modules available as open source to the DCS community, thereby making it available for further development.

Edited Tuesday at 09:18 PM by TheBiggerBass