Oculus Rift and DCS World Discussion

[Dudester22]

I think people need to try the Rift before they commentate on it. I mean, you cannot give your opinion on a football match unless you have seen it can you? I own a Rift, so I am better placed to give an opinion. All I can say is if this game doesn't support the Rift by the time the consumer version is out, then it will lose a big portion of players. Given the fact others are making filght sims with Rift support I know where my money will be going.

 

At the moment the resolution isn't that good on the Rift, but because of immersion people are still choosing to play games with it over a better resolution. It has since had another new build with a better resolution and as screens get better so will the Rift.

Edited September 2, 2013 by Dudester22

[Dudester22]

I haven't read all this thread, but I am wondering if anyone has got the Oculus Rift to work with the DCS? If they have can you tell me how? Thanks!!

[tjhowse]

I'm in the pro-rift camp, mostly because whatever John Carmack touches is generally technically great. I predict that many games that use the rift will implement a kind of "squint" button, which will zoom your view slightly to allow a closer look at a whatever you're looking directly at. This will alleviate most concerns about distant (bogies) and/or fine detail (dials) being difficult to see. If it's done properly it shouldn't be disconcerting.

[JaBoG32_Prinzartus]

If you want to use mfd's etc.. then don't worry about the rift and stay with the flat 2d monitor.

 

You guys are wearing me out....The rift is totally different and you will not understand unless you test it out.

 

It seems folks don't like change around here... I've seen every excuse not to accept a completely new way of gaming which is by far more immersive then any other option including full motion sims.(Yes, I have hundreds of hours in level D sims) Also, Matt has sung the same song... "I can't see my keyboard"... I just don't understand the thought process of some here...

 

My advice is go research...

 

Hi, Flim

 

Don't get me wrong! I am looking forward to the oR and holding back on my planned Triple Screen Setup. I am neither a fanboy of oR nor am I oppsoed to it, but I do beleive in the concept of VR.

 

But when I am "heading for oR" I need to understand the implication of using oR instead of monitors. And one major point obviousely is "perioherials". You just can't see them. I am sure that there will be a solution for this, but I am trying to figure out the best option for me to cope with this drawback.

 

So, asking again more precisely, how do YOU use your mfcd osb11 for instance? Are you using a mouse in the virtual 3d cockpit? How do YOU do it currently?

 

Also we, in the vJaBoG32, working intensively with, 9-line briefings, lots of charts, and specific briefings, etc, need to peek below the rift to manage the charts. But again, peaking below does work, as you said. So, I can imagine that handling a keyboard, mouse, charts, and a pen could work.

 

ATM, I just have no idea how to use all other non-HOTAS-bound functions, that I do not want to remember the key-combinations on my keyboard.

 

I do appreciate, sharing your findings and comments when experimenting with oR.

 

Still, a transparency / see-through toggle function would be absolutely great, IMHO.

Edited September 3, 2013 by JaBoG32_Prinzartus

[Kuky]

I personally never fly with keyboard (I always put it away, which is also why I hate when people start talking to me in chat when I am flying :D) so using OR would not change my need for it, I don't need to see it as I never use it anyway, that's why you have HOTAS and real switches, all of which you can use the feeling (I know exactly where is each one) but also, any cockpit that is clickable, I can reach my mouse any time without looking at it simply because I am so used to my hand position every time I am using it... I see no issue at all to use and fly with OR and I personally can't wait till it goes retail so I can get it and ditch 3 monitors setup... it will finally increase my FPS and I will get much better immersion... you can't beat that!

[HugePanic]

In dcs you will need a mouse anyhow, so you can zoom with the mousewheel...

No reason to wait for an button!!

 

I wait for resolution and "official support" only...

[mhe]

Well, the resolution will be at least 1080p, but I would be really surprised if they don't increase it before the launch. I talked to Palmer Luckey personally at Gamescom (our booth was next to Oculus) and he said they are trying to get the best and highest-res panel they can get their hands on. The reasoning for not doing different models with different resolutions is that they need to focus on a single model of panel so they can really harness the economy of scale better.

[yyk]

I have a OCU,Great sense of immersion！Who will read DCSW OCU head motion data?And set up dual screen？tks!

[mhe]

You can use the Rift's tracker data with FaceTrackNoIR and it will enable you to feed it into DCSW via its TrackIR API. As for the visuals, you can try Vireo, VorpX (when it comes out) or get in touch with Brad Hawthorne of NTHUSIM to perhaps get a Beta version of NTHUSIM HMD.

[ShaZe88]

my only concern currently is the resolution. I have not tried the rift, however, since the resolution will be 1080p which apparently result in something like 720x1200 pixels (missing pixels due to the area between the eyes not being used) will decrease the amount of detail.

 

While it might seem fine in most game to have a 700-800 pixels width resolution, we are talking about a flight simulator here, where having a really detailed surrounding is really important in order to spot these little planes, tanks, helicopters kilometers aways.

 

I already heard that a lots of people were angry about the 720p version since they could barely see more than a few meters away due to pixels appearing too big, I am afraid the same thing will occurs on the 1080. I believe that to get something as nice as we currently observe on our machine would require at least 1080p per eye, so more than 3800x1200 pixels for the entire display, also heavily increasing the GPU load.

 

Whats the opinion about that from the guys that tried the 1080p version in a flight simulator-like environment?

Edited September 7, 2013 by ShaZe88

[KaspeR32]

my only concern currently is the resolution. I have not tried the rift, however, since the resolution will be 1080p which apparently result in something like 720x1200 pixels (missing pixels due to the area between the eyes not being used) will decrease the amount of detail.

 

 

That's interesting that you know what resolution screen they're going to be using in the consumer version.

 

Where'd you find that information?

[sherman227]

Oculus Rift Support

 

Think about it, using the Oculus Rift in DCS! That seems absolutely amazing! the emersion would be off the charts! I'm planing on buying one and if this game had support i would be a happy pilot!

 

 

Eagle Dynamics get on it!

[NineLine]

I think it would be cool as well, but the wife already makes fun of my pro clip for my TrackIR :)

[SkateZilla]

I think it would be cool as well, but the wife already makes fun of my pro clip for my TrackIR :)

 

 

[sherman227]

 

lmao ^ People everywhere once the rift comes out^ or....maybe just me :megalol:

[Skoshi Tiger]

Hmmm! Maybe I'll wait until a version is released that can warn me if someone like my wife or kids has come into my study!

[mjeh]

As I understand it, the concern is that it will be difficult to use your peripherals properly with the oculus blocking out view of them (and your hands).

 

I suppose there would indeed be some disfigured fingers from hastily reaching for the mouse and repeatedly hitting just about everything else than it, but if you ask me that is such a small price to pay for the gigantic boost in immersion. Who needs fingers that bend at the joints, when you can happily gaffa tape your hand to the joystick anyway. :joystick:

[NineLine]

[metalnwood]

Hmmm! Maybe I'll wait until a version is released that can warn me if someone like my wife or kids has come into my study!

 

hmm, sounds like you are planning to come in your study too. :music_whistling:

[blksolo]

From what I'm reading EVERY flight sim/space sim developer is adding rift support except........DCS.

[PFunk1606688187]

I feel like the rift is only gobsmacking if you dont' already use the Trackir a lot.

[cichlidfan]

I feel like the rift is only gobsmacking if you dont' already use the Trackir a lot.

 

I've only been using TIR for two years but, to me, the Rift feels like an order of magnitude difference in immersion. Even if DCS does not support it, I will have a consumer version on order as soon as it is available.

[HornetUK]

I personally think for a flight sim such as the A-10 or black shark this is a bit of a non starter. There are so many controls to press that you would have problems with a mouse in the goggles. It may look better but I think it is going to slow down your responses to things as specially when in combat situation where you have many buttons to press all over the place at the same time as being shoot at.

 

Unless someone has a way round this?

[MauganRa84]

Someone send me one of these contraptions!

[cichlidfan]

I personally think for a flight sim such as the A-10 or black shark this is a bit of a non starter. There are so many controls to press that you would have problems with a mouse in the goggles. It may look better but I think it is going to slow down your responses to things as specially when in combat situation where you have many buttons to press all over the place at the same time as being shoot at.

 

Unless someone has a way round this?

 

Unless you are talking FC aircraft, in a combat situation, most every button I need is on my HOTAS, which makes it a non-problem