Essah Posted October 5, 2012 Posted October 5, 2012 I wonder if it would be a problem (complications with previous publisher) for ED or 3rd parties to make more AC that are equal in quality and fidelity as those in FC? If it's not a problem, wouldn't it take far less development time to crank out some low-fidelity modules? Maybe a F-18 at the same fidelity level as the F-15 perhaps? I think you're pretty much the only person on these forums that would be interested in that...
Cobra Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 Some Informations about the Status of FC3, please!
RagnarDa Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 200 Pages we get release! :P OK LETS DO THIS PEOPLE!!! DCS AJS37 HACKERMAN There will always be bugs. If everything is a priority nothing is.
JABO2009 Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 oh no ! Still NOT out ! come on ED..pls Intel I7 - 10700 K @ 3,80GHz / 64 GB DDR3 / RTX 3090 / Win 10 Home 64 bit / Logitech X56 HOTAS / HP Reverb G2 Running DCS on latest OB version
sobek Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 200 Pages we get release! :P Prepares to double the default post per page count at page 199. Muahahaha. :D Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
Rusty_M Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 Nate will probably soon tell us we're only on page 35 or something like that! The world is going mad. Me? I'm doing fine! http://www.twitch.tv/rusty_the_robot https://www.youtube.com/user/RustyRobotGaming
GGTharos Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 Shows page 19 on mine ... :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Kenan Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 Remember: no spamming one-liners while getting to the page 200! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Commanding Officer of: 2nd Company 1st financial guard battalion "Mrcine" See our squads here and our . Croatian radio chat for DCS World
159th_Viper Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 Due to forum bandwidth restrictions and considerations of user-friendliness, threads are subject to an auto-purge when post-count reaches 1999. At said post#1999 the entire thread is exterminated, facilitating a clean slate and no reason to wade through 1999 posts to find news and answers. Everybody Wins! Thanx for the understanding. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Spadje Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 1999 here we come :D AMD Ryzen 9 3900x, 64GB DDR 4, MSI Ventus 2070 Super, Samsung 970 M.2 NVMe, WD Blue 512GB SSD, TM Warthog, CH Pro Pedals, Acer AH101 WMR
Rusty_M Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 "'cause tonight we're gonna party for post 1999" The world is going mad. Me? I'm doing fine! http://www.twitch.tv/rusty_the_robot https://www.youtube.com/user/RustyRobotGaming
MaverickF22 Posted October 6, 2012 Posted October 6, 2012 One could ask "What's average about a fighter pilot?" Maybe it would be more accurate in saying that the blackout handling is seemingly modeled toward the in-game pilot being an average person that happens to be pilot, which happens to be flying fighter jet, for some strange reason. Possibly without the aid of a G-Suit...! Is the in-game pilot modeled as not even trying? Bahahah..., i can't stop laughing! You pointed the clues even better than me or anyone else here!:megalol: Still, we could only pray that ED will finally train their utterly average, so called "pilots" within the game..., because i can't call it a sim yet!:book: GGTharos..., sorry mate, but it's not the customer's job to find a STOHL chart, which i don't even know what it means..., and i've wasted my time enough already on trying to give you all the minimal needed information in order to make a blackout start developing not quicker than 10 seconds for a fighter pilot, not some average pilot(whatever you mean with that)..., what could be much easier than that? Do you say you can't do that because you don't have a STOHL chart, and for that reason the "sim" will continue to remain just a game because of it? So this leads to nowhere then..., it's only a matter of wanting to make things better, but it seems we have a lack for that!:pilotfly: Mistakes, obviously, show us what needs improving. Without mistakes, how would we know what we had to work on! Making DCS a better place for realism. Let it be, ED!
GGTharos Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 GGTharos..., sorry mate, but it's not the customer's job to find a STOHL chart, Actually yes, it is. If you want something modeled realistically, provide the proof for it. You've provided nothing. which i don't even know what it means..., Then you have absolutely nothing to go on :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Moa Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 (edited) Bahahah..., i can't stop laughing! You pointed the clues even better than me or anyone else here!:megalol: Still, we could only pray that ED will finally train their utterly average, so called "pilots" within the game..., because i can't call it a sim yet!:book: GGTharos..., sorry mate, but it's not the customer's job to find a STOHL chart, which i don't even know what it means..., and i've wasted my time enough already on trying to give you all the minimal needed information in order to make a blackout start developing not quicker than 10 seconds for a fighter pilot, not some average pilot(whatever you mean with that)..., what could be much easier than that? Do you say you can't do that because you don't have a STOHL chart, and for that reason the "sim" will continue to remain just a game because of it? So this leads to nowhere then..., it's only a matter of wanting to make things better, but it seems we have a lack for that!:pilotfly: Ok, let's have a look at selected samples on YouTube: * Here's a USAF F-16 Major who does passes at 7G, then 8G then passes out * Young fit pilot does G-Loc after a few seconds at 9G: * This exceptional female does 15secs at 9G: So, I think it is fair to say that G-Loc happens fairly quickly for these people and after a much shorter time that than what happens in LockOn FC2. For the way most of us fly in-game, at high speed and do instantaneous pulls to 9G (rather than gradually increasing the loading as they try to do in real-life), it is suprising that the game does not simulated the onset of G-Loc earlier (although the recovery time in-game can be quite long; these guys recover quite quickly; although there are cases where it can take a long time such as Israeli astronaut Ilon Ramon's son Assaf Ramon who died from maneuvering an F-16A in 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8253465.stm ). I think GGTharos has a better appreciation of G-Loc than perhaps you do, Maverick22. He does get to talk to a fair number of real USAF fighter pilots. The YouTube videos back up the FC2 experience; if anything, onset should be earlier and recovery could be earlier - but it is not too unrealistic at the moment (especially as it models cumulative fatigue from earlier maneuvering). This is one thing that makes modern fighter combat so hard. Edited October 7, 2012 by Moa
EtherealN Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 MaverickF22, if you say that something is wrong, it is good if you are able to back it up. That's the point with the STOHL chart request. Consider a different example - if you were to say that plane X should be able to pull Y amount of G, you'd be asked to show why you think so; with the relevant charts as the obvious resource together with a demonstration that the relevant behaviour is not present in the simulator. This isn't anything extraordinary, just the simple fact that if you say something is wrong - no matter what context - it is good to be able to show it. Or do you feel GGTharos should simply take your word for it, you being a non-fighter pilot with Youtube as evidence? You don't get the simulator to be less of a game through following Youtube evidence, you get it through following actual research and statistics: like the STOHL charts. ;) Both GG and Eagle Dynamics have more initiated resources, including both pilots and relevant documentation. That's weighs heavier than Youtube. :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
Reaper26 Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 My instructor showed us his G training video. 9 G's for 15+ seconds. F-15C guy.
Kenan Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 Is it out yet? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Commanding Officer of: 2nd Company 1st financial guard battalion "Mrcine" See our squads here and our . Croatian radio chat for DCS World
Milene Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 Where is it? Flanker, Flanker 2.0, Flanker 2.5, Lockon, FC1, FC2,FC3, BS1, BS2, A10C, CA and World [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Paganus Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 I'll play along. Onward 1999! Any more pics of Ricardo'ized aircraft laying around? Anybody?
RagnarDa Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 So, is it out yet? DCS AJS37 HACKERMAN There will always be bugs. If everything is a priority nothing is.
71st_Mastiff Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 30 to go and we'll all be band! :pilotfly: "any failure you meet, is never a defeat; merely a set up for a greater come back", W Forbes. "Success is not final, failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts", "He who never changes his mind, never changes anything," Winston Churchill. MSI z690 MPG DDR4 || i9-14900k|| ddr4-64gb PC3200 |zotac RTX 5080|Game max 1300w|Win11| |turtle beach elite pro 5.1|| ViRpiL,T50cm2||MFG Crosswinds|| VT50CM-plus rotor Throttle || Z10 RGB EVGA Keyboard/ G502LogiMouse || PiMax Crystal VR || 32 Asus||
Python Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 So, I think it is fair to say that G-Loc happens fairly quickly for these people and after a much shorter time that than what happens in LockOn FC2. Is it not likely that a centrifuge will cause G lock faster than an actual high G maneuver in a jet? I recall a guy on the rather brilliant series jet stream who couldn't pass the centrifuge at all, he'd black out every time yet he had no trouble at all in the F-18. It could be something along the lines of why the driver of a car doesn't get sick, they know exactly what is about to happen as they are in control and inputting all movements. At any rate roll on FC3, this will be my first venture into the lock on series since the original! Had to give in after wags little snippet on youtube.... speed!!! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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