FC3 Bug thread

[71st_Mastiff]

;1674418']Are you clicking the unit on the map then Lctrl+c and v or are you clicking on the unit in the Unit List and trying it?

 

When I make MP missions I place the aircraft at the airfield, give it way points then click on the aircraft, Lctrl+c and then Lctrl+v and it duplicates exactly including the way points right next to the original aircraft provided there is space at that airfield (if takeoff from ramp is selected).

 

All you have to do then is change the call signs and aircraft name... saves loads of time ;)

 

no the problem is when I use it as a client, no one can pick the aircraft. its stuck as the main #1 pilot and aircraft not sure whats causing it to lock that aircraft. If I build a new one from scratch its client usable.

 

All you have to do then is change the call signs and aircraft name... saves loads of time

 

tried that its not saving for any one to pick it, it just lets you think you pick it it shows you pick it but then when you hit fly, your F2 view of an enemy aircraft.

[71st_Mastiff]

I just detected a bug with the FPM in the F-15C. I had intercepted ILS glideslope on final approach and put my speedbrakes on in order to slow down (then used throttle to fly AoA). The last moments of the flight, I fell below glideslope and crashed just short of the runway threshold. However, the FPM indicated level flight and was superimposed with the ILS cross at the time of impact, whereas it should have dropped below the HUD as soon as my AoA increased beyond what could be displayed on the HUD (maintaining 8-10 degrees nose up). The entire time, the FPM and waterline were indicating about 10 degrees AoA, even when I dropped below stall speed and at the point of impact.

 

The trk is corrupted, but I have included a link to the TacView ACMI. Just fast forward to the very end and view the ACMI in HUD mode; the FPM and waterline indications were as I saw them in game, even as the airspeed drops below stall speed.

 

home frys I have been having that same issue, I even stated there is an AOA problem with the F15C but everyone keeps saying there isn't!

[ralfidude]

Anybody reported the HSI not being correct with the heading on the HUD of the SU-25T even after letting it align for a minute or two before turning on the engines? It also seems to degrade over time. If you were to restart in the same server, and do everything exactly the same, the next time, it would work better or worse than last time. Some gremlin stuck in the instrument panel playing with magnets me thinks...

Edited February 13, 2013 by ralfidude

[104th_Maverick]

no the problem is when I use it as a client, no one can pick the aircraft. its stuck as the main #1 pilot and aircraft not sure whats causing it to lock that aircraft. If I build a new one from scratch its client usable.

 

All you have to do then is change the call signs and aircraft name... saves loads of time

 

tried that its not saving for any one to pick it, it just lets you think you pick it it shows you pick it but then when you hit fly, your F2 view of an enemy aircraft.

 

 

Can you upload the mission for me to have a look at?

[159th_Viper]

I just detected a bug with the FPM in the F-15C. I had intercepted ILS glideslope on final approach and put my speedbrakes on in order to slow down (then used throttle to fly AoA). The last moments of the flight, I fell below glideslope and crashed just short of the runway threshold. However, the FPM indicated level flight and was superimposed with the ILS cross at the time of impact, whereas it should have dropped below the HUD as soon as my AoA increased beyond what could be displayed on the HUD (maintaining 8-10 degrees nose up). The entire time, the FPM and waterline were indicating about 10 degrees AoA, even when I dropped below stall speed and at the point of impact.

 

 

Airfield?

[Mandrake5]

I have noticed this as well. Must be a bug.

 

I think it's an issue with HDR, goes away if you turn HDR off in settings.

[Ryback]

I think it's an issue with HDR, goes away if you turn HDR off in settings.

 

So it's a bug..

 

@Testers can you add this to bug list please?

[alexej21]

Not relevant anymore...

Edited February 16, 2013 by alexej21

[Lord_Pyro]

Not sure if it's been reported, but our latest flight from the Admiral Kuznetsov only let the Host rearm and refuel, the others didn't get anything. Not sure if this is related to the Admiral Kuznetsov ATC bug...

 

 

Problem on your side. Did you turn engines of? Did you warp? On a laggy Server, where the server permanently thinks you are in motion, you wont get anything. We experienced this also. But under stable conditions we could load many su33 simultaneously on the carrier. So try to reduce the probability of warps. Warps occure if there are many planes flying and they get worse if they are shooting missiles (also sam raise the probability)

Thats because the paths and fm of the missiles and the same things for the planes must be sent to the server and all clients at the same time. The current netcode doesnt get this handled well, therefore the game makes guesses and predicts where everyone will be if there is no movement. But because there is, you might end with planes climbing from 0 to 10km in one second (which kills your radarlock on top of all)

 

Maybe this will eventually be resolved, if they can optimise the datapackages transmitted between clients and server but the current problems are experienced since loconrelease in the early 2000s.

 

But back to topic, it is possible to rearm a whole flight on the carrier, if their engines are turned off.

[104th_Maverick]

But back to topic, it is possible to rearm a whole flight on the carrier, if their engines are turned off.

 

No it's not I'm afraid, not as the client anyway.

 

The team are aware of this bug and are working hard to fix it.

Edited February 16, 2013 by [Maverick]

[159th_Viper]

Lists Updated:

 

RESOLVED:

 

1 - F15 Gear up = black textures

3 - F15 ADI switched

4 - F15 Virtual head movement excessive

5 - Russian planes Cannot lock contact in TWS

6 - AK arrestor cables not animated

7 - SU33 loadout indicators reversed in cockpit

8 - Refuelling F15/SU33 buggy

9 - F15 VSD text overlap when STT/Guns

10 - F15 external lights absent in flight

11 - Damage modelling to wheels/landing gear absent

12 - F15 HUD unreadable

13 - Russian planes Nav circle misalignment in ENR/RTN modes

14 - Engines/Afterburner on even though engines on fire.

15 - R27ER no loft trajectory

16 - Mig31 nosewheel not grounded

17 - Canopy jettison animation wrong

18 - EOS scanning not functional in elevation

21 - SU-27 native HUD "ИЗЛ" symbol overlaps over distance scale in BVR mode with Radar on

22 - F15 HUD indications overlapping

24 - HUD contacts in front appears also in Rear Aspect Mode

25 - Frontal aspect HUD contacts appears in Rear radar mode and can be locked

26 - SU33 Green HUD block at night effect

27 - A10 ADI switched

28 - F15 black cockpit pixelation when facing northerly direction (afternoon)

31 - Graphical glith (hash marks) in lower centre of SU27 HUD when zoomed out

32 - Graphical glith (hash marks) in lower centre of SU33 HUD when zoomed out

33 - F15 no drag increase with external fuel tanks

34 - Flyables smoke pod colours are incorrectly designated

35 - Scripting for cobra not present

36 - AIM-120C/R-77 tracks target beyond gimbal limits ONLY IF platform's radar reacquires target

37 - Ballistic AIM-120C/R-77 locks target beyond FOV/Gimbal limits ONLY IF platform's radar reacquires target

38 - SU27 automated leading edge flaps on flanker are shown in pit instruments as regular flaps

40 - FC2/FC3 mission incompatibility

41 - F-15C CTD initiated by changing the weapons (CTD when the player lock in the NAV mode a target with the radar and change the weapons)

45 - F15 unable to adjust altimeter pressure setting at all.

49 - Missiles expend too much speed when turning

52 - Helicopters are exhibiting stealth characteristics

54 - SU33/27, Mig29 RWR does not indicate A.I. missile launch

60 - Multiplayer datalink not functional for Russian aircraft

64 - AIM9 drops away before accelerating at launch

61 - F15 no afterburner LED on right panel to indicate burner lit

62 - F15 flaps do not induce any drag

63 - F15 strange attitude/behaviour with crosswind landings

66 - Mig29 flaps not extending to full 25 degrees

68 - Mig29 flaps are blown in by wind at very low airspeeds

69 - Mig29 Chaff and Flare loaded amount incorrect when rearming in game, via the radio (Alt + ' ) menu

70 - Russian planes slip indicators and HSI offset from centre

72 - Multiplayer exhaust nozzle expansion not visible to other clients

78 - Missile smoke discoloured/blue effect

79 - F15 does not repair

83 - SU27 Engines fully functional even when on fire

84 - SU33 Command IAS too low in LDG mode

85 - SU33 In-cockpit Weapons station indicator has 11 stations lit instead of 12

86 - SU33/27 and Mig29 Missile fire Zone computations bugged

88 - Multiplayer Mig-29 repair on ground/at airbase not functioning

89 - SU25A Wrong Chaff and flare count. 128 places instead of 256, model and skin shows 8*32 dispensers

90 - SU 25A/T MDB-67-U 4*FAB-100 modell is incorrect, FAB-100 bombs too close to each other

91 - SU25A Gunpods operation cannot be asigned to axis

93 - Missiles not aligned with weapons-pylon when SU-33 wings are folded

94 - R-77 not select-able whilst in Fi0 mode

96 - ILS Bugs/Inconsistencies in SU-27

103 - Multiplayer: If client is killed by other player/unit he does not get losses in stats

107 - SU27 Flaps retraction audio is played twice instead of once

108 - Wind does not affect chaff, flares and smoke markers

110 - Mig29A can be rearmed with R27ER and R27ET in ingame rearming menu

112 - SU25A/T takeoff flaps is shown as landing flaps on client aircraft

114 - F15C mission wingman #4 in radio menu

116 - SU25A Inner Flaps defaults to the Russian SU-25 1st skin in external view

119 - Mig29 External Fuel tank creates no drag

120 - SU25A Gear Lights Far setting not functioning correctly

121 - SU-27 visible as large black dot from extreme visual distance

127 - No RWR warning received from SAM site launches (Ground and Ship)

128 - Mig-31 nosewheel not grounded while taxiing

129 - Mig-29 Over the Hump Campaign freezes when selecting the mission planner from the campaign menu

131 - Failures system not operational in a MP environment

136 - Mig29A,S and SU33 cannot use B-8OFP2 and B-8TsM

137 - SIM crash on exiting campaign missions

139 - MiG-29, Su-27 and Su-33 when in BVR mode Speed on HUD shown is TAS as opposed to IAS

142 - The NEZ (No-Escape-Zone) calculations are reversed

143 - SU-25T unable to fire Vikhrs in salvo mode

146 - FC3 F15 is displaying Degrees AOA instead of units of AOA

149 - A10-A AOA Indexer not functional

 

 

UNRESOLVED:

 

 

2 - Mig29S external fuel tanks not displayed on fuel tape

19 - SU-27 cockpit textures include English labels. Not consistent translation. Examples: MSL and GUN on the weapons panel

20 - SU27 entire RWR is in English

23 - Su-25, Su-25T and Mig-29 Caution, Warning and Trim lights are in english instead of russian letters

29 - MIG29 Command Airspeed in LDG mode way below minimum

30 - SU27 Command Airspeed in LDG mode slightly below minimum

39 - SU27 when leading edge flaps are operational audio is heard for normal flaps

42 - SU33 floating on pitching AK deck

43 - SU27/33 weapon panel characters misalignment if the cockpit illumination is on

44 - G940 HOTAS FFB issues/not functioning correctly

46 - F-15C antenna does not track PTD in elevation with TWS

47 - Air to Air missiles do not have INS

48 - ECM uses FC2 behaviour in DCS world

50 - Short range missiles do not turn hard enough

51 - Virtual Pilot G-Tolerance is too low

53 - SU25A Airbrake Pylons keep defaulting to the Russian SU-25 1st skin and the bort numbers become an outline in external view when zoomed out

55 - Russian HUD guidance symbology in LNDG mode incorrect - missing glide slope error circle at certain runways

56 - Russian plane pilots have corrupted Pilot head textures at night

57 - Russian planes have corrupted landing light animations

58 - Missile HOJ mode not functional

59 - Mig29 incorrect flaps deployed for player-controlled aircraft

65 - Chimney smoke visible through undercast

67 - Mig 29A flap extension animation incorrect

71 - Multiplayer audio from other players not present (drogue chute)

73 - SU27 gets AoA warning of F15

74 - Water not visible in mirrors of FC3 aircraft

75 - Wingtip vapour effect missing from flyables

76 - SU25A antenna on nose cannot be seen from cockpit

77 - Contrails misaligned/too close to engines of aircraft

80 - Multiplayer clients do not see SU25A/T airbrake deployment

81 - F15 turbine fans not spinning

82 - F15 Gun pipper tracking issue (Impact point below target)

87 - F15 AIR intakes appears to be without any animation

92 - Disappearing player names from the menu in multi-monitor setups

95 - No TTI indicator on Mig29/SU27/SU33

97 - SU27/SU33 EOS not slewable in Elevation

98 - SU27/SU33 lack EOS Narrow Mode Scan

99 - Russian Helmet Designator Circle stays on target after lock

100 - IRST sensor is Gimbal-Fixed in search mode

101 - No audio tone when HMS locks target

102 - HMS Targeting Ring behaviour/illustration incorrect

104 - Mig29 Canopy Jettison lever transparent at night

105 - Russian Pilot kneeboard showing incorrect map of Crimea

106 - SU27 audio for flaps deployment not heard in external view

109 - No heat blur on jet engines when spooling up or at idle

111 - SU25A/T drogue chute cap remains open after first rearming

113 - F-15. Mig29, SU27, SU33 Localizer Deviation Bar exhibits incorrect behaviour in banking maneuvers

115 - Floating Ghost Missiles in Multiplayer

117 - Contrails visible through Clouds

118 - Landing reference lights on Admiral Kuznetsov very dim and unclear

122 - SU-33, SU-27 and Mig-29 Gear Lights Halo not visible at night

123 - F-15C Misalignment between under-fuselage weapons-pylons 4,5,7 and 8 and missiles

124 - Touch smoke only draws when the 2nd main wheel make contact with the ground on landing

125 - SU25,25T, Mig29, SU27 and SU33 Cockpit lighting incorrect colour

126 - SU27 Mirror textures corrupt

129 - The lofting dynamics of the AIM-120B/C borked/non-functional

130 - F15 Flood Mode functionality incorrect

132 - No airbrake sounds for SU25A/T

133 - Incorrect cockpit lighting for A-10A

134 - MP all aircraft receive all radio chatter from friendly airbases

135 - FC3 flyables missing external cockpit lighting texture

138 - Weapon Quantity selector in Su-25 and Su-25T not working for Rockets

140 - Su-33 falls through Kuznetsov (on landing)

141 - Su-33 hooks aircraft carrier rope at distance about 10 km

144 - SU-25T no weapons-station indications in HUD when Vikhrs selected

145 - Russian Fighters HUD improvement

147 - SU-33 sticks to the runway in cross-wind conditions

148 - Game Mode F-15 unable to track/lock targets in BVR mode

150 - F-15C Navigation lights reflections swapped

151 - Admiral Kuznetsov ATC not available

152 - Admiral-Kuznetsov ATC cannot handle multiple flights without causing collisions

153 - F-15C Fuel Consumption Guage is showing wrong fuel consumption

154 - SU33/SU27 HDD Incorrectly rendered

 

 

 

 

Any questions/clarifications just shout.

Edited February 21, 2013 by 159th_Viper

[Silver_Dragon]

44 - G940 HOTAS FFB issues/not functioning correctly

 

FFB no resolved?

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1668530&postcount=5

The good news is that we believe the force feedback stick issues have all been resolved.

[Zhuravlik]

The good news is that we believe the force feedback stick issues have all been resolved.

 

The important thing to note in this sentence is...we believe :D

 

Regards

[Postal2]

I there , for the

150 - F-15C Navigation lights reflections swapped .

 

We have resolved problem !

 

and i make also a similar render like Irl nav light ,beacons (not Effet ball visible after 50Km .. )

 

Try this , thank's! http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=99808

[Home Fries]

Airfield?

Senaki Rwy 09.

 

You don't need an airfield to replicate this bug. Just take the F-15 to altitude, pitch up, and cut the throttle. You will see your airspeed and altitude drop, but your FPM will never go below the HUD and it will indicate that you should be climbing.

[Pelmo]

Viper, I found out on DCS World with the Su-25T can now use the missiles Kh-58 and Kh-25MPU vs the Shilka, the German Gepard and German Roland EWR! On FC2 was not possible.:thumbup:

 

But why I can not even engage in other types of EWR?:(

 

The M-163 Vulcan is equipped with radar. Why the RWR of the Su-25T does not detect it?

Why the Fantasmagoria Pod of the Su-25T does not detect it?

 

@126 - SU27 Mirror textures corrupt.

 

Not only Su27! Same problem on Su33!:thumbup:

 

@Edit

 

I just found out that Roland EWR on FC2 is not a EWR. Was erroneously called Roland EWR! On DCS World the same vehicle is called Roland Radar. Sorry!

Edited February 17, 2013 by Pelmo

[Maraudeur]

And concerning the SPO, would it be possible to have it to work as the real one's description in the SU-27 SK flight manual?

SPO Russian.pdf

[159th_Viper]

And concerning the SPO, would it be possible to have it to work as the real one's description in the SU-27 SK flight manual?

 

Be a Gentleman and list the current deficiencies and I'll see what I can do. I cannot read the Russian .pdf and do not trust an online translator at all :)

[Maraudeur]

Oh, Ok, my mistake. I thought it was better for you to send a russian original copy of the flight manual.

I'll send you ASAP an english translation of this part.

To make it short: it gives generally a more precise information (in particular in the front side area) concerning the position and the type of threat. But it is also very sensitive to the jamming ECM device, making it unrelyable when jammer is operative on the SU-27. So it is necessary to switch of the ECM to have a relyable SPO information.

[Endy]

I believe I may have found a problem with the Su27 damage model during our last MP event. A Su27 which was turning into an enemy A10 got hit by Aim9 missile. The missile exploded not doing ANY damage at all and the plane was fully functional.

 

 

This got me curious whether it was an accident or a hitbox issue and I was able to replicate similar missile explosion conditions by toying around in the editor.

 

 

What seems to be the case is that if the missile explodes slightly in front of center of mass, more or less below the cockpit, the plane suffers no damage at all besides some minor decals on the wings. It seems to be a hitbox issue because I don't believe it's intentional for the plane to suffer no harm at all from an Aim9 which hit like that.

 

 

I was so far unable to replicate the effect on any other plane or in different hit conditions. I can't say if that only applies to SU27 or all lower fidelity aircraft. I also can't say for sure whether it's only Aim9 but R73 seems to be a better missile in this regard.

 

 

I attach the relevant track.

aim9 test 8.trk

[71st_Mastiff]

object error Lua HE 2.75 3 Rockets textures

 

low res textures for 3 lua HE 2.75 rockets

A10A

Edited March 4, 2013 by Mastiff

[71st_Mastiff]

A10A the elevators do not translate animation wise down. you only see the them up. and middle.:music_whistling:

[combatace]

for version 1.2.3

 

1. Su-27's rudder does not move when compensating crosswinds in autopilot.

2. I still hear US jets AOA warning in Russian planes.

[REPUBLICANO]

1.2.3 version.

 

Is not posible unlock the target with the Su-27, the only way I found is turn-off the radar:cry:. Really bad for this bird when is in combat.

[HiJack]

MiG-29S Stall freeze

 

VERSION 1.2.3: Just testing some BFM on the MiG-29S and found the stall to freeze in mid air just before tipping over. Can someone check this track and maby do a test of their own to confirm?

 

Track file:

[ATTACH]77647[/ATTACH]

 

138th.Jack

Edited February 27, 2013 by HiJack