Darkwolf Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 they was a poll not long ago when 3rd party arrived on the scene. I think that was on IRIS section. It asked which kind of aircraft level of simulation DCS customer would expect, and those guys seemed to believe that FC simulation style would win the poll. Well, everyone asked for DCS level of simulation. I unfortunately expect a lot of drama, debate and speculation in a close future, about is that aircraft above, below or up to the "DCS A10C Simulation Level" I'm sure we'll have good aircraft, maybe some less good, but as far as i can see in most public message from develloper, they understood the message from the community and are all heading to DCS style of simulation. I just really hope ED will have quality control on products, such Apple Store is doing with their Ipad apps. ---- By the way - i don't think we can really speculate about developpment time, from the P51 example : That one was a side project that ended on a final product. I think they were fully focused on it and allocating large ressources until the decision to get it sold was done. 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] PC simulator news site. Also....Join the largest DCS community on Facebook :pilotfly:
LostOblivion Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 I'm afraid I'm more negative than most here. When thinking of the time waiting for 3rd party modules and expecting they are going to take on the fidelity of the likes of DCS: A-10C, I think of the time I waited for Microsoft Flight in terms of expectations. And most of us know how that ended up... 1 Nice plane on that gun... OS764 P930@4 MBUD3R M6GB G5870 SSDX25 CAntec1200 HTMHW
Python Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 Just when I've managed to put ms flight out of my mind... :smilewink: I agree though, with the exception of a few (Hawk, L-39 etc) I am keeping my expectations lower for third party developers... hopefully this will leave me pleasantly surprised when a few true DCS quality addons do start to appear. Also, Maybe as DCS world grows bigger and attracts more and more paying customers, ED will be able to expand their team and pop out DCS modules at a slightly higher rate. That said, while I am as impatient as anyone on here, I'd rather wait longer and receive modules that match the quality of DCS: A10c. A little more in terms of development updates would no doubt be widely appreciated and keep us happy however, even if there isn't much to tell. +1 I just took a peek at SevenG's F-18 Python. Their attention to detail is very nice. The shaking and warping of the wings adds another level of realism. I hope ED takes a page from that and I know they're more than capable of doing it. I know, wouldn't it be quite something to have those features in DCS world, as you say, it adds immensely to the realism. I think SevenG will do well with the DCS crowed... if they ever release it. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Darkwolf Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 Wing shaking is nice effect, but i won't mention it as "immensely". When i fly in DCS, i watch my hud, my targets, certainly not my wings. They is a way more things that can improve realism such as better ground operation dynamics (which impact where and where not to fly) To me, collidable trees would be a "immense realistic step". imho wings is just a minor graphic detail. 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] PC simulator news site. Also....Join the largest DCS community on Facebook :pilotfly:
upupandaway Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 +1 I just took a peek at SevenG's F-18 Python. Their attention to detail is very nice. The shaking and warping of the wings adds another level of realism. :thumbup: I hope ED takes a page from that and I know they're more than capable of doing it. I know, wouldn't it be quite something to have those features in DCS world, as you say, it adds immensely to the realism. I think SevenG will do well with the DCS crowed... if they ever release it. Yes, it will be something. Apparently it´s already there. http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1640789&postcount=260 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Deedle, deedle!
Teknetinium Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 Dose A-10C wing flex in DCS? 51st PVO Discord SATAC YouTube
Pilotasso Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 no, but they wont in real life either (not visible anyway) they are very thick to beggin with. .
Raven68 Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 Dose A-10C wing flex in DCS? No. Well at least I haven't noticed it. Intel i5-9600K @ 3.7GHz; Gigabyte Z370XP SLI Mobo; G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4080 16GB 256-Bit GDDR6; Thermaltake Water 3.0 Certified Liquid Cooling System Windows 11 Professional HP Reverb G2 /TrackIR 5 in case VR dies; Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog w/ Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals
BTTW-DratsaB Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 (edited) Very nice video thanks. I must get back flying the Frog! Do you think ED would ever make the free T-Toad with 6 DOF? After playing A10 and BS so much it is hard to go back to these "basic" planes with no clickable pit or 6DoF. A 6DoF pit would make the 25t much more appealing/fun to fly. Edited January 20, 2013 by BTTW-DratsaB Specs: GA-Z87X-UD3H, i7-4770k, 16GB, RTX2060, SB AE-5, 750watt Corsair PSU, X52, Track IR4, Win10x64. Sim Settings: Textures: ? | Scenes: ? |Water: ? | Visibility Range: ? | Heat Blur: ? | Shadows: ? | Res: 1680x1050 | Aspect: 16:10 | Monitors: 1 Screen | MSAA: ? | Tree Visibility: ? | Vsync: On | Mirrors: ? | Civ Traffic: High | Res Of Cockpit Disp: 512 | Clutter: ? | Fullscreen: On
SkateZilla Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 But they Snap off if you pull too many Gs with a Heavy Load on them :) Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Darkwolf Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 Correct, but this is not what we call "wing flex", SkateZilla. This one is called "Near Death Experience". 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] PC simulator news site. Also....Join the largest DCS community on Facebook :pilotfly:
Python Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 Wing shaking is nice effect, but i won't mention it as "immensely". When i fly in DCS, i watch my hud, my targets, certainly not my wings. While I admit the wing flex is a small edition, I think you may be selling it short. Imagine for a second if you will.... You are sat in the cockpit of your DCS: F-18, your flying low and fast after just attacking your target, but out of no where... A mig on your six! Thanks to the wonder that is TrackIr you are one with the cockpit. You look around instinctively, back and forth over your shoulder while turning and burning hard to shake off the mig... the wings are flexing and the vortexes are screaming off your leading edge extensions as you pull high G's... you forget you are sat in a comfy chair... the cup of tea in front of you has become nothing but a blur in your peripheral vision. In this moment you are there, Of course the mighty hornet doesn't let you down and you get onto the migs six before taking him out in a blaze of glory and heading home for a victory roll over the airfield before a right telling off after buzzing the tower ;) A perfect future of course, but for all of DCS worlds greatness it is a future within it's grasp I think, and all through a few small editions..... a man can dream :joystick: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Kroll Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 These were made years ago. I'm sure in due time we will see that F-16.
danilop Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 I was hoping for a F-16 & MiG29 announcement :cry:, but I'm not complaining in any way! SU-27SM, F/A-18C & F-15C will keep me more than busy until we see these two iconic fighters in DCSW. :thumbup:
Ranger79 Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 Still waiting for Nevada, pretty disappointed, hope it comes out in 2013... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Ranger79 OEF/OIF Veteran YouTube Channel Twitch Channel Mods, Missions, & Tutorials: Operation Piercing Fury Campaign Ranger79's Object Pack ISIS CrisIS Campaign Mission Editing Video Series
neroroxxx Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 These were made years ago. I'm sure in due time we will see that F-16. Any chance you can give us the links to what posts these came from? Also, what aircraft is that first cockpit from? im not familiar with russian aircrafts at all. thanks. Nero 27" iMac, 3.4GHz i7 Quad Core, 16GB Ram, AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2Gb, Running Bootcamp, Windows 7 Home 64bit, Saitek X-52 Pro
Phantom88 Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 Still waiting for Nevada, pretty disappointed, hope it comes out in 2013... +1 Patrick
Weta43 Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 (edited) Any chance you can give us the links to what posts these came from? Also, what aircraft is that first cockpit from? im not familiar with russian aircrafts at all. thanks. So 2 seat hellicopter with 'bubble' shaped cockpits that E.D might have said they were working on... What could that be ? http://www.bredow-web.de/Luftwaffenmuseum/Hubschrauber/Mil_Mi-24P_/Cockpit_Mil_Mi-24/cockpit_mil_mi-24.html Edited January 21, 2013 by Weta43 Cheers.
neroroxxx Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 See the collective near the floor bottom left of the cockpit (?), and the bubble shape in the long view ? That give you a clue ? I know it's a helicopter, what helicopter is what I was asking Nero 27" iMac, 3.4GHz i7 Quad Core, 16GB Ram, AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2Gb, Running Bootcamp, Windows 7 Home 64bit, Saitek X-52 Pro
phant Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 Any chance you can give us the links to what posts these came from? http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=503375&postcount=343 Also, what aircraft is that first cockpit from? im not familiar with russian aircrafts at all Mil Mi-24 Hind Bye Phant
neroroxxx Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 Thanks phant! Nero 27" iMac, 3.4GHz i7 Quad Core, 16GB Ram, AMD Radeon HD 6970M 2Gb, Running Bootcamp, Windows 7 Home 64bit, Saitek X-52 Pro
lunaticfringe Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 Just catching up and found this funny: You mistaken the F-15C with D or other improved and UP-TO-DATE versions.. of course the up-to-date version of F-15 can be more than an equal to even Eurofighter.. but it cannot be SUPERIOR anymore. . "more than an equal" = ">" ">" = "SUPERIOR" Your bias invalidated its own argument with bias; ergo, bias for the win/loss, or BFTW/L. LOL.
lunaticfringe Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 Yes, the Kilrathi are well aware that Rapiers don't just fly around without a carrier close by :D In 2654, the Kilrathi don't fly around with Rapiers close by, either. ;) (Cause you ain't lived until you've 18-killed Venice #4 as Omega Wing lead.)
LordLobs Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 Did anyone notice that at approximately 28:10 Wags shot a Vihkr without lasing the target? :P
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