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Good... But is there a source to learn how to convert? I passed this particular mission finding targets with the tpod. And tought that the coordinates were just for the general area of the target. Thanks, I made my post earlier without reading this answer. Very well. In the 11th mission I encountered a similar issue (don’t want to spoiler here)...so I had to rely on the wingman to do the job, and after he had hit a target i found the other ones with the TPOD...there the given coordinates seemed to be the precise ones, but again when set in a waypoint (with precise set) it was in the middle of nowhere. Would like to know which kind of conversion was needed there?

Well...better to reach to the fpsvr developers then...maybe they will have a fix for it. I will try as well as soon as I can

About sam...yes I put it on auto... But I don’t think the rtx 2080ti is enabled for it... And yes that is why apart from changing cpu and motherboard i changed also my ram

You could have a pretty enjoyable experience lowering your settings and using an oldergen headset (rift S for example) probably index or reverb are no-go for your system. The most powerful of the nowadays systems cannot run dcs in vr at high settings and 100% resolution on the hp reverb and have good frames

This also is impressive. I still don’t understand much of the AMD platform, i am running at pretty stock settings, with just the ryzen master auto OC (it asked me to do on the first launch). My ram also is 2x crucial ballistic 3600 dual ranked. Everything is in 1:1:1 ratio (1800). What I could do to still improve performances? What is ultra powerplan?I don’t have it...I have balanced, high and the process lasso one. Pbo overboost and limits are set in Ryzen Master or Bios? What is the negative curve optimizer? Thanks....as said above I am pretty noob of the AMD platform.

Well that’s huge....little big monster of a CPU. I hope it will be possible to find it at a proper price before the end of January

Yeah....I noticed the same. With PBO auto I have better performances. That is quite strange.... Could it be a placebo?

Image clarity in the quest 2 is good. Better the Rift S. But this is not the whole story, there is also the overhead of the link encoding. @dutchcoolhand I am testing a quest 2 and need to understand if some stutters and ghosting issues can be solved or are related to the link or comes from the Oculus software itself. So my better advice is to try it , and if it is possible buy from somewhere with a good return policy like Amazon, so you can return it if not satisfied. I probably will be returning it and keep my Valve Index

Don’t worry....it is just an empty weekly newsletter. Today is Friday but probably they just didn’t fill any content.

Because frametime matters most in VR. To maintain 90fps you need to be in the land This is impossible even for the most beefy hardware. So the next goal becomes to be under 22ms to have a smooth experience with ASW/Motion Smoothing. Frametimes are the time that the cpu uses to prepare a frame for the GPU and the time that the GPU uses to render it. 1000 milliseconds/90 frames = 11.2 milliseconds.

It could be. I need more testing, but with the Index (with an higher rendering resolution via supersampling) I get better performances. With the quest 2 my system performances are not bad, but I have big issues when moving my head or with fast movements (stutter, double images)...and that could be caused by the encoding part or by some bug of the oculus software.

Dcs does not support WMR mode at the moment. In order to use DCS with WMR headsets you need to use steamvr and the mixed reality for steamvr application. Ask if you need more informations

Happy 2021 to everyone.... Let’s forget this crazy 2020 for good

Well...i had my first approaches with VR in 2017....i feel that DCS VR has never been in a good shape like now... I am sure it will get better

With the quest 2 you also have to consider the overhead of the encoding and compression of the image

Well I disagree...we had no 50% improvements....but little optimizations here and there.... Then we will have vulkan which hopefully will bring a lot to the table...

We just need to wait. A porting of the EDGE (dx11) engine to Vulkan has already been announced and in the works. Last official word was before all the covid stuff...so probably there is some delay on it. But I don't think it is too far away. They mentioned also a rework on the entire engine but that will take much longer probably for accomodating the core number race (vs the previous GHZ race). So you (as me....a VR addict as well) just need to have a little bit of patience. Bye

This is exactly what I meant..... And the scenario you described are exactly the use cases which I was referring to and where the CPU raw power (aka IPC) counts a lot. And I never said that the GPU doesn’t count as well...but in that specific scenario it will be sitting half utilized if the CPU can’t keep up with all the calculations and draw calls. As the rest of your post I agree also on everything else you wrote. In the end an high end gaming system needs to be balanced in all its components.

Yeah... Not arguing on any of that... Just try the two missions I mentioned in my previous post...especially the Hornet one can bring the most powerful pc to its knees

Of course the 5600x is a smart buy...best bucks for money considering it is better (for gaming) then the i9 10900k About the comparison...that is why I posted my passmark score... Hoping that someone with a 5600x and a 5900x will do the same. I am still in the Amazon return window...so if I can find a 5600x or 5900x at their legit price I could think about switching As you can see the percentage of bootleneck is way below 5% at 4K, which is the resolution I'm after for playing VR, today I'm at 3.35% of GPU bottleneck on 2160p/4K resolution. Now, those are the results of this morning games: So, my conclusion are that focusing on the CPU only is a mistake, if one wants to mainstream while gaiming, then fine, I can uderstand the need they have for a 5900X but other than that, a 5600X is more than enough and more to the point, pitted with a RX 6800XT, it will most probably offer a better bound than my 1080 Ti 11GB does with the 3600X I am using now. After that (considering that I've been over the whole optimization topics already), the RAM upgrade should help too, in short, you need balanced performances and good bound between the whole system devices, especialy in DCS, even if GPU is the weakest link here, bootlenecks are still what causes the loss of single device performances overall. Well simple 2v2 or 4v4 are not the scenarios where a CPU can be stressed in dcs.... Do you have the Hornet? Try the stock 1989 cas mission included with the module...go over waypoint 3 and tell me what happens... Another example? Try the p47 fw190a8 furball instant action in the channel map.... That are scenarios where the CPU can be quite stressed (in VR). And of course I repeat myself, i am not saying that the GPU doesn’t count... It counts a lot...but for my system changing cpu made more sense, and the results for now are encouraging.

Yeah I get that...and I mostly agree. But...I repeat myself....i test DCS with very extreme situations (lot of scripting and AI, dynamic multiplayer missions) and those scenarios are just unplayable in VR, and (read my signature) I have a quite powerful rig... Now going from an i9 9900k to an r7 5800x I experienced 40fps in situations where before I simply couldn’t...and that was without changing GPU, and 80fps where before I had 40 because of motion smoothing. So the CPU matters a lot. In the past I measured this with fpsVR, I still didn’t do that with the new CPU. So probably on your average SP mission campaigns you won’t have cpu bottlenecking issues... But as mentioned I love to test extreme situations (look at my forum tag [emoji3]), and in this situation the bottleneck will be the cpu (unless dcs becomes a fully multithreaded application). Then I am not saying that you should spend all your money on the best possible CPU and you can happily have a gtx970 (just as an example) and experience good frames in VR. The components in a gaming Pc needs to be balanced. So I am only saying to don’t chase these new cards (3090/6900xt) at the prices those are selling now. Anyway a cheap 5600x will be better then any Intel CPU in DCS and you can live with that.

This is absolutely not wrong.... The cpu in a flight simulation like dcs is much more important then the GPU. Of course if you fly alone over Dubai which has a lot of 3d objects to display, the cpu won’t be stressed, and the GPU will. In a realistic scenario (complex mission or Multiplayer server) the CPU is much more important. The AI, the scripting, the physics is all handled by the poor processor...which for VR have also to prepare every single frame to the GPU for rendering it. Of course the GPU matters...no one is denying that (I have an rtx 2080ti not the slowest card in the world). But go have a read to the 3090/6900xt thread, and you will see a lot of disappointed users that changed GPU to virtually see no differences in DCS. And thrust me, cpu frame time is equally important to the GPU ones...in an ideal world both need to be under 11.2 ms Under 22 for reprojection. Yeah this is ok...but I was not able to find it.

Today I received the last piece of the puzzle (2x 32gb crucial ballistic kit)..... These are the result of a benchmark The single threading score is particularly impressive (the baseline for 5800x is 3508, for 5900x is 3511 and for 5600x is 3386) This is done with no overclocking (stock Ryzen Master auto-overclocking) and high performance power profile (balanced keeps some lower number but not by much). Duing the test I saw all cores rising up to > 4,7 and 2 of the cores > 4.9 and a third almost at 4.9 impressive given that official specs says that boosting is 4.7 on a single core. Maybe someone with a 5600x and a 5900x can upload his results in similar conditions to see the real winner in single threading performances (which counts very much for DCS and sims in general).

In 2d gaming sure....but in VR every ms that allows a lower frametime counts...and the 5800x and 5900x are probably the best in that regard. 5600x is rocking fast, and for its price (if you can find it) is great....but probably putting cash (again only if you find it at his price) on a 5900x gives you lower frametimes...in VR a fraction of a millisecond could mean the difference between 45 and 90 fps...or worse a difference between smooth 45 and lower then it (no ASW/Motion Vector/Motion Smoothing magic)

I would have done the same if it was possible to find it at its stock price.....