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Yeah... Not arguing on any of that... Just try the two missions I mentioned in my previous post...especially the Hornet one can bring the most powerful pc to its knees

Of course the 5600x is a smart buy...best bucks for money considering it is better (for gaming) then the i9 10900k About the comparison...that is why I posted my passmark score... Hoping that someone with a 5600x and a 5900x will do the same. I am still in the Amazon return window...so if I can find a 5600x or 5900x at their legit price I could think about switching As you can see the percentage of bootleneck is way below 5% at 4K, which is the resolution I'm after for playing VR, today I'm at 3.35% of GPU bottleneck on 2160p/4K resolution. Now, those are the results of this morning games: So, my conclusion are that focusing on the CPU only is a mistake, if one wants to mainstream while gaiming, then fine, I can uderstand the need they have for a 5900X but other than that, a 5600X is more than enough and more to the point, pitted with a RX 6800XT, it will most probably offer a better bound than my 1080 Ti 11GB does with the 3600X I am using now. After that (considering that I've been over the whole optimization topics already), the RAM upgrade should help too, in short, you need balanced performances and good bound between the whole system devices, especialy in DCS, even if GPU is the weakest link here, bootlenecks are still what causes the loss of single device performances overall. Well simple 2v2 or 4v4 are not the scenarios where a CPU can be stressed in dcs.... Do you have the Hornet? Try the stock 1989 cas mission included with the module...go over waypoint 3 and tell me what happens... Another example? Try the p47 fw190a8 furball instant action in the channel map.... That are scenarios where the CPU can be quite stressed (in VR). And of course I repeat myself, i am not saying that the GPU doesn’t count... It counts a lot...but for my system changing cpu made more sense, and the results for now are encouraging.

Yeah I get that...and I mostly agree. But...I repeat myself....i test DCS with very extreme situations (lot of scripting and AI, dynamic multiplayer missions) and those scenarios are just unplayable in VR, and (read my signature) I have a quite powerful rig... Now going from an i9 9900k to an r7 5800x I experienced 40fps in situations where before I simply couldn’t...and that was without changing GPU, and 80fps where before I had 40 because of motion smoothing. So the CPU matters a lot. In the past I measured this with fpsVR, I still didn’t do that with the new CPU. So probably on your average SP mission campaigns you won’t have cpu bottlenecking issues... But as mentioned I love to test extreme situations (look at my forum tag [emoji3]), and in this situation the bottleneck will be the cpu (unless dcs becomes a fully multithreaded application). Then I am not saying that you should spend all your money on the best possible CPU and you can happily have a gtx970 (just as an example) and experience good frames in VR. The components in a gaming Pc needs to be balanced. So I am only saying to don’t chase these new cards (3090/6900xt) at the prices those are selling now. Anyway a cheap 5600x will be better then any Intel CPU in DCS and you can live with that.

This is absolutely not wrong.... The cpu in a flight simulation like dcs is much more important then the GPU. Of course if you fly alone over Dubai which has a lot of 3d objects to display, the cpu won’t be stressed, and the GPU will. In a realistic scenario (complex mission or Multiplayer server) the CPU is much more important. The AI, the scripting, the physics is all handled by the poor processor...which for VR have also to prepare every single frame to the GPU for rendering it. Of course the GPU matters...no one is denying that (I have an rtx 2080ti not the slowest card in the world). But go have a read to the 3090/6900xt thread, and you will see a lot of disappointed users that changed GPU to virtually see no differences in DCS. And thrust me, cpu frame time is equally important to the GPU ones...in an ideal world both need to be under 11.2 ms Under 22 for reprojection. Yeah this is ok...but I was not able to find it.

Today I received the last piece of the puzzle (2x 32gb crucial ballistic kit)..... These are the result of a benchmark The single threading score is particularly impressive (the baseline for 5800x is 3508, for 5900x is 3511 and for 5600x is 3386) This is done with no overclocking (stock Ryzen Master auto-overclocking) and high performance power profile (balanced keeps some lower number but not by much). Duing the test I saw all cores rising up to > 4,7 and 2 of the cores > 4.9 and a third almost at 4.9 impressive given that official specs says that boosting is 4.7 on a single core. Maybe someone with a 5600x and a 5900x can upload his results in similar conditions to see the real winner in single threading performances (which counts very much for DCS and sims in general).

In 2d gaming sure....but in VR every ms that allows a lower frametime counts...and the 5800x and 5900x are probably the best in that regard. 5600x is rocking fast, and for its price (if you can find it) is great....but probably putting cash (again only if you find it at his price) on a 5900x gives you lower frametimes...in VR a fraction of a millisecond could mean the difference between 45 and 90 fps...or worse a difference between smooth 45 and lower then it (no ASW/Motion Vector/Motion Smoothing magic)

I would have done the same if it was possible to find it at its stock price.....

I am running a 5800x (since today)...and performance increase over the old 9900k in VR is remarkable... I am able to mantain 40fps in situations where before I couldn’t(of course i am talking about scenarios where the cpu is the limiting factor, like mp or missions with many AI). However I am keeping an eye on 5900x or 5600x stocks....I will return the 5800x if i can find one of those before the end of January

Can you tell us also? I am trying but I cannot force dcs tonstart with steamvr

Have you tried to put motion smoothing to alway on? I used to do in the past with the Index and seemed to help

following closely

Oh sorry, I didn’t realize you have a 30 series card. Yeah I can open steamvr as well, but when i launch dcs it launches it using oculus software not steamvr... Maybe you have the steam version of dcs

I think you just need to wait for NVIDIA to fix this issue. As stated above the latest driver that does not show these issue is from may and your card cannot use it being a newer one. So as they just aknowledged this issue there is nothing you can do on your side

Did you solve this? I have big jitteries and ghosting almost only when moving the visual laterally....Tried both with the Quest 2 and the Rift S it is the same indipendently from the PD (tried with every value between 1.0 and 1.4). It seems it maybe related to this issue here: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/game-ready-drivers/13/402768/valve-index-missing-dropped-frames-since-nvidia-d/. Seems that the last working version of the nvidia drivers is a version from may (should be 446.14) I cannot try right now as i am not home for the holidays...but could you try if downgrading the drivers solves the issue? Thanks I suggest to lower the bitrate....the quest 2 developers stated that over 350 are only diminuishing returns and issues with CPU utlization (the CPU need to do the encoding). Better set to 0 (auto) or max 350. Personally I use 150 and cannot see any difference going up honestly. Ho do you manage to run DCS VR through SteamVR? I cannot, it launches with the Oculus runtime....I would like to try if using SteamVR there are differences. About your issue I am having similar ones.....read above... Could be an issue with Nvidia Drivers...try with version 446.14

I think that this feature is implemented only in the Hornet for now

Yeah very detailed map....And I think also that there is still room for optimization being still early access technically

I am not at home and cannot try, but i was chasing a similar issue and yesterday I read that those stutters are a known issue with nvidia cards and latest drivers. A specific version from may seems to be the latest without this issue. Nvidia aknowledged the issue just few weeks ago

Yeah I was going mad thinking it was the link cable for the quest 2. Still need to try but seems that older drivers could solve the issue.. But unfortunately they are not going to work with newer cards. But mine is the old 2080ti so will try to downgrade in the next few daya

Wags ha scritto che relativamente a quella frase si è trattato di un errore di traduzione dal russo...come per tanti rumors che vengono poi sparsi come verità assolute

Yeah but it should help in keeping the 45 (or 40 depending on the headset) for ASW

ED non lo farà...ma non è detto che un 3d party non possa

That impact could be negligible probably, the problem in VR is that a fraction of a millisecond can make a difference in what the user perceives (asw or full 90fps for example

I didn’t think I could have all this hype for an helicopter...but here I am.... At the moment I am a complete noob with rotaries... What module I could use to easily learn the basics and don’t end up frustrated? Ka50?mi-8 or uh-1?

Good evening Mister Wags... I was just answering to the user jasonbirder using his own words.... I am sorry, but I was not quoting the exact words used by someone of the staff...just referring to a general concept of a module that would have been eagerly wanted and awaited by the community. I don’t remember the exact words used (in a newsletter maybe it was milestone) but the Apache is surely mind-melting to a vast majority of the DCS community, RW fans above all (I feel the need to properly learn helos now) Anyway wording apart I was just pointing out that no one from ED staff ever said that the “secret module” would have been a fixed wing aircraft, It was always referred to as a generic aircraft (notation which includes helicopters, which are aircrafts as well). So I don’t think I said anything negative, or I do hope so [emoji846]

They only said that it would have been a mind-melting aircraft. Helicopters are part of the bigger category called aircraft