Hummingbird Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Must be a hard one to crack, not surprisingly considering amount of work must go into the high AoA maneuvering characteristics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bourrinopathe Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) That's some solid and exhilarating news! Thanks to ED, the legendary Flanker has been around since 1995! And soon, with a high fidelity flight model? As a free upgrade for FC3? That's fantastic. I hope they'll celebrate that kind of dedication and passion! Edited September 8, 2014 by Bourrinopathe spelling /// ВКБ: GF Pro MkII+MCG Pro/GF MkII+SCG L/Black Mamba MkIII/Gladiator/T-Rudder MkII | X-55 Rhino throttle/Saitek Throttle Quadrant | OpenTrack+UTC /// ZULU +4 /// /// "THE T3ASE": i9 9900K | 64 GB DDR4 | RTX 2080ti OC | 2 TB NVMe SSDs, 1 TB SATA SSD, 12 TB HDDs | Gigabyte DESIGNARE mobo /// Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rami80 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Btw does anyone know if the pfm will be accompanied by "graphical" updates such as the afterburner(like the F-15) or maybe the vortices? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuky Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Btw does anyone know if the pfm will be accompanied by "graphical" updates such as the afterburner(like the F-15) or maybe the vortices? yes, someone does know :smilewink: No longer active in DCS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilducky Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 IM really happy they put that in there for us, but they pretty much just repeated what they said back in December of 2013... I just want to say that I stand corrected - The news in this little update by ED kinda explains the extended work time. They kept saying that they were doing the Advanced Flight Model (AFM) and now they said they are doing the Professional Flight Model (PFM) in this update (which I kinda guessed already from the update to the F-15c that was done but ED never really stated this I dont think). That is a greater depth into the flight model :D That makes me happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldur Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Btw does anyone know if the pfm will be accompanied by "graphical" updates such as the afterburner(like the F-15) or maybe the vortices? What afterburner? It's still the FC afterburner effect and it hasn't ever changed... BTW: What's the exact difference of AFM, AFM+, EFM and PFM? I always thought there's either the old scripted LOMAC SFM or the decent DCS/Su-25 AFM. But it seems there are more different levels of FM detail now... Is this maybe just some different terms like IG and EDGE for the same thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted September 8, 2014 ED Team Share Posted September 8, 2014 What afterburner? It's still the FC afterburner effect and it hasn't ever changed... BTW: What's the exact difference of AFM, AFM+, EFM and PFM? I always thought there's either the old scripted LOMAC SFM or the decent DCS/Su-25 AFM. But it seems there are more different levels of FM detail now... Is this maybe just some different terms like IG and EDGE for the same thing? http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=122801 Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldur Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Thanks, good to know :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tagge Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Do we finally get R-77, anti-radar missiles and TV-guided missiles for SU-27? - With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - "Upside-down shuttlecock of death" SU-27 as described by Sgt Baker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLANKERATOR Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 R-77 is broken beyond measure as it is now. It needs to be fixed first IMO. I don't think it will ever be added to the Flanker's arsenal as this particular topic had already been discussed extensively and to no avail. Same for the P version of the R-27 family, there doesn't seem to be any proven record of its usage in actual combat. In addition, imagine how would it be if people had to turn their radar off every time a Flanker popped up on their RWR, especially an Eagle in BVR as relying entirely on radar-guided missiles. This is one very hot topic indeed. Situational Awareness: https://sa-sim.com/ | The Air Combat Dojo: https://discord.gg/Rz77eFj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilducky Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Do we finally get R-77, anti-radar missiles and TV-guided missiles for SU-27? According to the Wiki on the SU-27, the S model, which we have, didnt carry those. The Su-27sm carried those weapons. Dont know how accurate Wiki is on that, but its the best I've found but it seems accurate as that's what we have in game. =P Su-27S armament 30 mm GSH-30 Cannon, 150 rounds 6 × Medium-Range R-27R, R-27ER, R-27T, R-27ET 4 × Short-Range R-73E FAB-250 FAB-500 RBK-250 RBK-500 S-8 S-13 S-24 S-25 SMKB[73] Su-27SM armament 8 x Vympel R-77 advanced medium-range missile 6 x KAB-500KR and KAB-500L Guided Bombs 4 x Kh-29T/L 4 x Kh-31P/A anti-radar/ship missiles 4 x Kh-35 anti-ship missile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rami80 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) R-77 is broken beyond measure as it is now. It needs to be fixed first IMO. I don't think it will ever be added to the Flanker's arsenal as this particular topic had already been discussed extensively and to no avail. Same for the P version of the R-27 family, there doesn't seem to be any proven record of its usage in actual combat. In addition, imagine how would it be if people had to turn their radar off every time a Flanker popped up on their RWR, especially an Eagle in BVR as relying entirely on radar-guided missiles. This is one very hot topic indeed. What exactly is it in the R-77 that needs to be fixed? Edited September 10, 2014 by rami80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theropod Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 we are on autumn:) f-86,fw190 and mig-21 released and now can we expect the su-27 pfm update next or any development news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 You'll get news when there are news. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theropod Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 this means no new news:) waiting for new news:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Rage* Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 DCS is telling me Su27 is now available for pre-purchase (PFM and updated HDD)!! GIMMIE GIMMIE GIMMIE!!! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th "Scorpions" Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 195.201.110.22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeLKMT Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 (edited) Official here now: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=131959 Edited October 6, 2014 by GeorgeLKMT ■ L-39C/ZA Czech cockpit mod ■ My DCS skins ■ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontiuka Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Official here now: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=131959Coolness. If I didn't already have FC3, first day purchase. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafer Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Oh, dam. I wonder how difficult is it to learn the cobra maneuver. ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAFU Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 That`s nice. Does anyboday know if ASM is planned for the Su27? Advanced Systems Modeling (ASM). An ASM enabled aircraft goes into great depth to model the intricacies of the various cockpit systems, to include functionality for almost all the buttons, switches, dials, etc. A key element of an ASM cockpit is the ability to interact with it using your mouse. ASM DCS examples include the A-10C, Ka-50, P-51D, UH-1H and Mi-8MTV2. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Unsere Facebook-Seite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted October 6, 2014 ED Team Share Posted October 6, 2014 That`s nice. Does anyboday know if ASM is planned for the Su27? Nothing has been stated as far as I am aware. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbelter Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Just when I thought all hope is lost... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Python Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Can't wait!! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 At least we get an update is five weeks. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafer Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Nothing has been stated as far as I am aware. uh-huh... ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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