Su-27 for DCS World

[Hummingbird]

Must be a hard one to crack, not surprisingly considering amount of work must go into the high AoA maneuvering characteristics.

[Bourrinopathe]

That's some solid and exhilarating news!

 

Thanks to ED, the legendary Flanker has been around since 1995!

 

And soon, with a high fidelity flight model? As a free upgrade for FC3? That's fantastic.

I hope they'll celebrate that kind of dedication and passion!

Edited September 8, 2014 by Bourrinopathe
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[rami80]

Btw does anyone know if the pfm will be accompanied by "graphical" updates such as the afterburner(like the F-15) or maybe the vortices?

[Kuky]

Btw does anyone know if the pfm will be accompanied by "graphical" updates such as the afterburner(like the F-15) or maybe the vortices?

 

yes, someone does know :smilewink:

[Evilducky]

IM really happy they put that in there for us, but they pretty much just repeated what they said back in December of 2013...

 

I just want to say that I stand corrected - The news in this little update by ED kinda explains the extended work time. They kept saying that they were doing the Advanced Flight Model (AFM) and now they said they are doing the Professional Flight Model (PFM) in this update (which I kinda guessed already from the update to the F-15c that was done but ED never really stated this I dont think). That is a greater depth into the flight model :D That makes me happy.

[Eldur]

Btw does anyone know if the pfm will be accompanied by "graphical" updates such as the afterburner(like the F-15) or maybe the vortices?

 

What afterburner? It's still the FC afterburner effect and it hasn't ever changed...

 

BTW: What's the exact difference of AFM, AFM+, EFM and PFM? I always thought there's either the old scripted LOMAC SFM or the decent DCS/Su-25 AFM. But it seems there are more different levels of FM detail now... Is this maybe just some different terms like IG and EDGE for the same thing?

[NineLine]

What afterburner? It's still the FC afterburner effect and it hasn't ever changed...

 

BTW: What's the exact difference of AFM, AFM+, EFM and PFM? I always thought there's either the old scripted LOMAC SFM or the decent DCS/Su-25 AFM. But it seems there are more different levels of FM detail now... Is this maybe just some different terms like IG and EDGE for the same thing?

 

 

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=122801

[Eldur]

Thanks, good to know :)

[tagge]

Do we finally get R-77, anti-radar missiles and TV-guided missiles for SU-27?

[FLANKERATOR]

R-77 is broken beyond measure as it is now. It needs to be fixed first IMO.

I don't think it will ever be added to the Flanker's arsenal as this particular topic had already been discussed extensively and to no avail.

 

Same for the P version of the R-27 family, there doesn't seem to be any proven record of its usage in actual combat. In addition, imagine how would it be if people had to turn their radar off every time a Flanker popped up on their RWR, especially an Eagle in BVR as relying entirely on radar-guided missiles. This is one very hot topic indeed.

[Evilducky]

Do we finally get R-77, anti-radar missiles and TV-guided missiles for SU-27?

 

According to the Wiki on the SU-27, the S model, which we have, didnt carry those. The Su-27sm carried those weapons. Dont know how accurate Wiki is on that, but its the best I've found but it seems accurate as that's what we have in game. =P

 

Su-27S armament

 

 

• 30 mm GSH-30 Cannon, 150 rounds
  
• 6 × Medium-Range R-27R, R-27ER, R-27T, R-27ET
  
• 4 × Short-Range R-73E
  
• FAB-250
  
• FAB-500
  
• RBK-250
  
• RBK-500
  
• S-8
  
• S-13
  
• S-24
  
• S-25
  
• SMKB[73]
  

Su-27SM armament

 

 

• 8 x Vympel R-77 advanced medium-range missile
  
• 6 x KAB-500KR and KAB-500L Guided Bombs
  
• 4 x Kh-29T/L
  
• 4 x Kh-31P/A anti-radar/ship missiles
  
• 4 x Kh-35 anti-ship missile
  

[rami80]

R-77 is broken beyond measure as it is now. It needs to be fixed first IMO.

I don't think it will ever be added to the Flanker's arsenal as this particular topic had already been discussed extensively and to no avail.

 

Same for the P version of the R-27 family, there doesn't seem to be any proven record of its usage in actual combat. In addition, imagine how would it be if people had to turn their radar off every time a Flanker popped up on their RWR, especially an Eagle in BVR as relying entirely on radar-guided missiles. This is one very hot topic indeed.

 

 

 

What exactly is it in the R-77 that needs to be fixed?

Edited September 10, 2014 by rami80

[theropod]

we are on autumn:) f-86,fw190 and mig-21 released and now can we expect the su-27 pfm update next or any development news?

[GGTharos]

You'll get news when there are news.

[theropod]

this means no new news:) waiting for new news:)

[*Rage*]

DCS is telling me Su27 is now available for pre-purchase (PFM and updated HDD)!!

 

GIMMIE GIMMIE GIMMIE!!!

[GeorgeLKMT]

Official here now: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=131959

Edited October 6, 2014 by GeorgeLKMT

[kontiuka]

Official here now: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=131959

Coolness. If I didn't already have FC3, first day purchase. :)

[leafer]

Oh, dam. I wonder how difficult is it to learn the cobra maneuver.

[SNAFU]

That`s nice.

 

Does anyboday know if ASM is planned for the Su27?

 

Advanced Systems Modeling (ASM). An ASM enabled aircraft goes into great depth to model the intricacies of the various cockpit systems, to include functionality for almost all the buttons, switches, dials, etc. A key element of an ASM cockpit is the ability to interact with it using your mouse. ASM DCS examples include the A-10C, Ka-50, P-51D, UH-1H and Mi-8MTV2.

[NineLine]

That`s nice.

 

Does anyboday know if ASM is planned for the Su27?

 

 

Nothing has been stated as far as I am aware.

[blackbelter]

Just when I thought all hope is lost...

[Python]

Can't wait!!

 

[cichlidfan]

At least we get an update is five weeks.

[leafer]

Nothing has been stated as far as I am aware.

 

uh-huh...