Revisiting the Dora

[fastfreddie]

+1

 

I took his advice too, and even if I had learnt to take off and land in the two planes, his advice made it much easier and more consistent.

Especially the big side slip to get the Bf-109 down has helped me.

 

But also using "only" ATA 1.2 has helped me getting a much more enjoyable and stable flight.

 

I mentioned that on these forums quite awhile back to people complaining about the torque roll or whatever you call it. Throttle back to 2300 rpm or so at the proper alt and speed to make it disappear. It was trimmed to a certain speed range and going full blast isn't going to make it a smooth ride. Plus you kill your flight range when you run at higher throttle.

[Screamadelica]

I mentioned that on these forums quite awhile back to people complaining about the torque roll or whatever you call it. Throttle back to 2300 rpm or so at the proper alt and speed to make it disappear. It was trimmed to a certain speed range and going full blast isn't going to make it a smooth ride. Plus you kill your flight range when you run at higher throttle.

 

Exactly!

Cruise speed for me means an ATA setting of 0.9 - 1.1 and around 1800 - 2000 RPM for the 109K. I find I even need to ease off on the forward trim sometimes. Using a little left rudder to keep her on track and you can fly hands off literally for enough time to open another beer, stretch your arms and pat the dog. :thumbup:

The interview with Erich contained quite a lot of great information. I'm really looking forward to Part Two.

[Zimmerdylan]

Back when these planes were in early Beta, there was a quick start guide for the take off. Man did a lot of people go crazy trying to get it off the ground that way. I actually thought I would shelf the Dora at first. Even people I knew on the servers were avoiding that plane. After a long time of trying, I got to where I could get it off the ground OK and had a 50% success at landing it.

After several months of not flying either plane, I saw that video and both are very very cool planes now. And yes...the slip idea is great. It'll slow you right down in a hurry. So far as I can actually feel, both planes kind of take off like the P-51 now. I have to lock the tail wheel of the Dora to take off but that's really the only difference other than using a ton of rudder when accelerating.

So thanks Sith for posting that vid and completely restoring my faith in those 2 planes. I feel like I just bought 2 great new modules. And I know I seem like a sap about it but I'm not a full timer on the sim like a lot of you realism nerds (< term of respect). Maybe someday I will, but till then........

Edited July 17, 2015 by Zimmerdylan

[Mango]

That was excellent! Can't wait to see more.

[DieHard]

(re: Message #1)

 

Is there a Part #2 to this video?

 

I did not read through the entire thread.

 

Thanks.

[NineLine]

(re: Message #1)

 

Is there a Part #2 to this video?

 

I did not read through the entire thread.

 

Thanks.

 

It's coming later I believe, Yo-Yo's adventures with Erich appear not to be over ;)

[MACADEMIC]

Just a brief feedback from Erich after watching the first part of the 'Revisiting Dora 9' trilogy: he absolutely loved it and is amazed how with this video people around the world have taken an interest in his knowledge and experience, which he is very happy to share. He thanks all those who have thanked or greeted him in the various comments sections on youtube or forums, and is sending his best regards.

 

He's now eagerly awaiting the coming parts.

 

MAC

[Nirvi]

Just a brief feedback from Erich after watching the first part of the 'Revisiting Dora 9' trilogy: he absolutely loved it and is amazed how with this video people around the world have taken an interest in his knowledge and experience, which he is very happy to share. He thanks all those who have thanked or greeted him in the various comments sections on youtube or forums, and is sending his best regards.

 

He's now eagerly awaiting the coming parts.

 

MAC

 

A trilogy? Great news, looking forward to it! :thumbup:

[Silver_Dragon]

Music uploaded by Btd ;)

[DieHard]

I watched this video through to end a few months ago learning the 190. Currently re-learning the 109 and this video was referenced in the 109 forum. I forgot I had seen this video before. I realized I had seen it watching it through this second time. I'm age 64 and my memory is starting to go. I'm getting so I only fly one sim aircraft to stay relatively sharp with her and stay several months with just the one aircraft. Then when I switch to another one previously flown I have to get reacquainted with that one.

 

You guys (DCS) must have gotten the modeling just about right. Erich discusses the differences of the flight and landing characteristics between the two planes, and me having flown both in the sim, I too, have noticed the differences as Erich has explained. I can takeoff, fly around and land the 109 fairly well, but dogfighting is a whole 'nother issue---I suck!

 

Thanks for the effort. Great stuff.

Edited January 2, 2016 by DieHard

[Flying-Kane]

When can we expect the next part? It's been a long time since the first one...

[Anatoli-Kagari9]

Even the lightness of the controls, at the full speed range, compared to the K4 :-)

 

And yesterady I even experienced the buffeting when approachin Vne in the 109 !!!

[MAD-MM]

Have serious question, is not bitching about the flight model, it's only for interested how it works.

When the dora is near the stall speed in a inverted flight a loop as example, normally would think it's drop every moment over the heavy engine in a nosedive.

But it's feel the centre of gravity is behind the wing some where in the rear fuselage of the plane.

And the plane is start to spinning because the engine is still looking in the sky and out of airspeed.

[Yo-Yo]

Another interview of Erich Brunotte

 

http://video.flyingheritage.com/v/116079427/feldwebel-erich-brunotte.htm

[Sporg]

Another interview of Erich Brunotte

 

http://video.flyingheritage.com/v/116079427/feldwebel-erich-brunotte.htm

Great!

Thanks for that. :) :thumbup:

[Echo38]

Many thanks!

[OnlyforDCS]

Another interview of Erich Brunotte

 

http://video.flyingheritage.com/v/116079427/feldwebel-erich-brunotte.htm

 

Wonderful interview. Thanks. :thumbup:

[rogonaut]

nice find, updated flash now i can watch it hurray.

Edited April 12, 2017 by rogonaut

[PicksKing]

Another interview of Erich Brunotte

 

http://video.flyingheritage.com/v/116079427/feldwebel-erich-brunotte.htm

 

Thanks.

There are even more interviews with other former Luftwaffe members. This is so awesome.

[Yurgon]

I'm about half-way through, incredibly interesting! :thumbup:

[Knock-Knock]

Excellent, thank you Yo-Yo :thumbup:

 

From the interview. I had never heard of those, let alone seen, the 'Vater und Sohn' things.

http://www.luftarchiv.de/index.htm?/bordgerate/mistel.htm

[rrohde]

I really wish that Erich Brunotte would be discussing more of his stick time with the DCS FW-190 and Bf-109. I really have high hopes for part two of the "Revisiting the Dora" clip.

[Flying-Kane]

Nice interview!!!

 

Thank you ED!

[MACADEMIC]

A shorter version of Erich's interview for the FHC should appear sometime in the near future on NBC Learn. Meanwhile your can find some short but also interesting interviews available on their site: http://www.nbclearn.com/courage

 

MAC

 

P.S.: Thanks Yo-Yo for linking to the FHC's interview, Erich will be happy to hear it is finally released.

[Echo38]

Forgive me if I missed something obvious, but is there a way to get English subtitles on that video? I ended up just reading the transcript, but I'd like to be able to see what he's saying as he says it.