WinterH Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Belsimtek is not ED.They don't have to fix neither Multiplayer issues nor Missile performance and trakcing issues. All they should care about is their modules. Yup, perfectly aware of that, however, still Belsimtek themselves have more and bigger fish to fry than what is basically a minor visual issue. Wishlist: F-4E Block 53 +, MiG-27K, Su-17M3 or M4, AH-1F or W circa 80s or early 90s, J35 Draken, Kfir C7, Mirage III/V DCS-Dismounts Script Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxic Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I think the Mi-8 is a wonderful aircraft. If keeping it in beta stage a little while longer to fix the issues while at the same time making other great aircraft (Mig-15, Sabre, Huey). At the same time working in teams of only two or three people researching, coding, modeling AND at the same time trying to please their Russian markets and western markets. Belsimtek is doing an amazing job! #CHOPPERLIVESMATTER http://www.aircombatgroup.co.uk/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beagle One Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Yeah let them do theyr great job. But I personally have sworn to myself to never ever again buy somethign that is labeled beta... now there is not much to buy for me in DCS:W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWillis Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 That's your choice of course, but it does deprive you of a lot of - slightly compromised admittedly - very good modules. There is a saying in the UK - we call this kind of statement "cutting off your nose to spite your face" If it makes sense to you to do that, then go ahead. But why do you need everyone to know? Or would you like this forum to become a second Facebook, with news from everyone every time they decide to display their teenage angst or take a crap? If however you are trying to persuade Belsimtek of your opinions, and make them change their philosophy, then good luck with that. I bet they're really worried!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard_03 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 They do betas for our benefit, so they can make changes and improvements based on our feedback, and so that we can use the products without having to wait absurdly long, it's a win win. Honestly I'd be upset if someone released a unit without a public beta. DCS F/A-18C :sorcerer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 They do betas for our benefit, so they can make changes and improvements based on our feedback, and so that we can use the products without having to wait absurdly long, it's a win win. Honestly I'd be upset if someone released a unit without a public beta. I think the beta developers depend on users' comments and constructive criticism to make the product better, much the same way a lot of USA products that hit the market, they let the consumers be the testbed for later product improvement. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watari Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 I´m little bit disappointet. I gave 49 Euros in the first hour and i never regret it. I would do it again! BST is the first choice for PC rotorheads but the hip is since 2013(!) in a beta stage. Over to 2 years. I searched the forum and the whole net for info but there some rumours that BST works on finalisation of their modules. I only want to know whats planned for mi8. Are major fixes/updates even planned? A sign of life would be really appreciative for the mi8 customers. thanks :matrix: =SPEED IS LIFE=:matrix: http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/speed-is-life.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golani79 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 (edited) There were some fixes / updates announced in the other topic - not sure though when they will be released. http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=143573&page=15 Edited July 20, 2015 by golani79 typo >> DCS liveries by golani79 << Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Hrothgar Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Going by Wags comments in the live streams + Q&A's, we shouldn't expect anything major until the DCS2 update. Whether that is next week or next year, no one knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skjold Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Nobody seems to have mentioned that the defensive guns should also be implemented on the Hip at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terence44 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Nobody seems to have mentioned that the defensive guns should also be implemented on the Hip at some point. http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=129988 [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic104172_5.gif[/sIGPIC] Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/terence44/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heli3 Posted June 17, 2016 Author Share Posted June 17, 2016 HELLOOOOO???? YouTube Flickr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Looney Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Hi! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Commodore 64 | MOS6510 | VIC-II | SID6581 | DD 1541 | KCS Power Cartridge | 64Kb | 32Kb external | Arcade Turbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devrim Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 :D Greetings. Intel i7-14700@5.6GHz | MSI RTX4080 Super SuprimX | Corsair V. 32GB@6400MHz. | Samsung 1TB 990 PRO SSD (Win10Homex64) Samsung G5 32" + Samsung 18" + 2x8"TFT Displays | Saitek X-55 Rhino & Rudder | TM MFD Cougars | Logitech G13, G230, G510, PZ55 & Farming Sim Panel | TIR5 >>MY MODS<< | Discord: Devrim#1068 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaOneSix Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Hello. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilWillis Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 I don't think you should get too hung up on labels. Whether it is in Beta or not doesn't make the module any less excellent. Of all the modules, I'd say that the Mi-8 has had a lot more updating activity over a longer period of time than any of the others too. Some changes are very subtle and passed without a great fanfare, but as you can see from the Mi-8 updates thread, a lot of changes are being added over time. The bottom line is that there are still features that Belsimtek want to add, and so it will remain in Beta until they're satisfied with it. It is just an extremely complex helicopter, and there are a lot more systems to model than in something like the Sabre, so obviously, it needs a lot more work, and the developers have a finite resource pool, so it takes a while, that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AG-51_Razor Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Just to add to what Neilwillis said above, I think that the Mi-8 is about the most realistic module there is to fly in DCS. Now, I qualify that remark with the fact that I am a professional helicopter pilot and have quite a bit of time in large and heavy helicopters, albeit none in the Hip. I am also a FW pilot with around 1,500 hours - all in light general aviation a/c - and about 400+ of that is in an RV-8 I used to own. My point being, I do have a vague point of reference on which to base my comments on the Mi-8 vs. the rest of the modules out there. Having never flown an A-10, a Sabre, Mustang, a Hawk or M2K, I wouldn't even pretend to know if they are realistic or not but the Hip is spot on as far as I am concerned. As with any of the modules, there are a few little warts but nothing to worry too much about. :thumbup::pilotfly: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Tako Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 I do have a vague point of reference on which to base my comments on the Mi-8 vs. the rest of the modules out there Me, I got this feelin' you ain't vague at all. But that's just me ;) My Semi-Pro Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomCatMucDe Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 why is it beta at all? i dont remember having a bug with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleFox Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Becuase theres a ton of things missing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted June 17, 2016 ED Team Share Posted June 17, 2016 Becuase theres a ton of things missing A ton? 1 Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cibit Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Just my opinion. The mi8 has had more love and care than any other of belsimtek s modules. If it had an OP 1 bomb sight it would be complete :) i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 32Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Adding JTAC Guide //My Vid's//229th AHB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msalama Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) A ton? Well, to mention just one, I'm not sure if the long-missing thermal damage model is there even yet. Granted that I haven't tested her either, since she's indeed so powerful that any sensible ops won't strain her overmuch. But still... Anyway, she is indeed great. The FM is tops, plus she's very VERY versatile as far as combat scenarios go. The best module in DCS by _far_ currently IMO! So no wonder she's the only machine I fly nowadays... well, apart from some Albie nonsense every now and then perchance ;) Edited June 17, 2016 by msalama The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msalama Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Becuase theres a ton of things missing And which particular ton would that be, pray tell? The DCS Mi-8MTV2. The best aviational BBW experience you could ever dream of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AG-51_Razor Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 No ashtrays? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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