Farks Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 It sure is more interesting, but it's a way more specialized design, that can't compete with the norwegian F-16s in most regards. It's an older design though and hasn't been upgraded as much as the F-16s. The JA 37 had the advantage in the air-to-air role over the initial versions of the F-16. Which is unsurprising considering it was optimized entirely for that role.
frixon28 Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 So is this going to be the most content filled module "out of the box" ever to be released into DCS, because we sure are getting a whole basket of treats to go along with this aircraft! Keep it up LNS!
Raven68 Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 We're nervous and excited for you all to fly the aircraft. <insert S-Word> There are few to come to mind but not sure if they apply right now. Intel i5-9600K @ 3.7GHz; Gigabyte Z370XP SLI Mobo; G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4080 16GB 256-Bit GDDR6; Thermaltake Water 3.0 Certified Liquid Cooling System Windows 11 Professional HP Reverb G2 /TrackIR 5 in case VR dies; Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog w/ Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals
Pocket Sized Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 Yeeeeesssss Personally I hope the Viggen comes before the Hornet. If the Viggen came after there wouldn't be enough hype to go around. DCS modules are built up to a spec, not down to a schedule. In order to utilize a system to your advantage, you must know how it works.
Darkbrotherhood7 Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 Thanks Cobra! :) Mission: "To intercept and destroy aircraft and airborne missiles in all weather conditions in order to establish and maintain air superiority in a designated area. To deliver air-to-ground ordnance on time in any weather condition. And to provide tactical reconaissance imagery" - F-14 Tomcat Roll Call [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Vitormouraa Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 A minor update for ye fellow Viggenites! The crunch continues.... LN JUST DO IT! SplashOneGaming Discord https://splashonegaming.com
mattebubben Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 Yeeeeesssss Personally I hope the Viggen comes before the Hornet. If the Viggen came after there wouldn't be enough hype to go around. Yea me to. Im sure a ton of people will still get it right away (Including me ofc) but being before the hornet should give it a few more buyers. Since it will be the first aircraft with Anti-ship missiles the first supersonic attack aircraft as well as the first aircraft with an air-ground radar. And those are all things that the F/A-18 can do as well.
microvax Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 A lot of effort and time has been lately spent on optimizing the aircraft and the code and/or calculations behind various systems. We've offloaded the ground radar and a few other items to seperate threads and cores, significantly minimizing impact on CPU time. Additional time has been spent on writing various automated tests, including tests to ascertain stability (to fix crashes) and to automatically test flight parameters and/or performance. LN My I7 6850K is in love with you ! Gimme all ze threads ! :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] *unexpected flight behaviour* Oh shiii*** ! What ? Why ? What is happening ?
Rangi Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 Thanks for the update Cobra, looking forward to learning how to fly her. PC: 6600K @ 4.5 GHz, 12GB RAM, GTX 970, 32" 2K monitor.
Skjold Posted October 13, 2016 Posted October 13, 2016 Thanks for the update Cobra! Looking forward to it. Yeah to be frank if it would come out after the Hornet that would without a doubt negatively affect interest in the Viggen in a big way.
QuiGon Posted October 13, 2016 Posted October 13, 2016 (edited) Well in what way?. And also the Saab 37E (Eurofighter) that was offered to the Norweigans (and other Nato nations like Denmark,Belgium and the netherlands) was not the same as the AJ 37 or the later JA 37 (as it was on the possibilities board in the mid 70s). So it would have been tailored to the needs of the customers. And would most likely have been a multirole aircraft (Fighter capabilities and BVR missiles as well as advanced air-ground capabilities). (Norway was also apparently offered the Viggen at an earlier stage in 1967-1968 before the Viggen entered into service and that would probably have been more or less a AJ 37) And the Swedish Viggen variants are well capable to compete with the Norweigan F-16s (if we look at the time the Viggen was in service). And if you compare the capabilities of the Norweigan F-16s with the corresponding abilities of the Viggen its very comparable. Since sure the F-16A might be a better fighter then the AJ37 but its no better fighter (over all) then the JA 37 (that entered around the same time as the F16) And the AJ 37 is not really any worse then the F-16A in the Air-ground area either. and as i understood it the Saab 37E would be fully multirole (so you would only need 1 version instead of two). And the Viggen would also have advantages for Norway as it would be more adapted to the Winter etc (better handling on ice as well as be able to use shorter runways during winter etc). The JA 37 had the advantage in the air-to-air role over the initial versions of the F-16. Which is unsurprising considering it was optimized entirely for that role. I was comparing the latest swedish AJ/JA 37 with the latest norwegian F-16 and in that case the norwegian F-16 is clearly the better choice overall. The biggest disadvantage of the Viggen (even back at the time of the norwegian decision) is, that it needs different variants for different roles. The 37E would have changed that from what you say, but I have absolutly no knowledge of this variant. :) But I for sure would prefer the Viggen over the boring and well known F-16 all day long :D Edited October 13, 2016 by QuiGon Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
QuiGon Posted October 13, 2016 Posted October 13, 2016 A minor update for ye fellow Viggenites! The crunch continues. Most of our work is still focused on fixing issues, blocking bugs, ironing out inconsistencies, fixing things that were broken due to version changes and adding a few very minor missing features. We've also been working hard on auxiliary content that is somewhat seperate from the aircraft. This includes the training suite, the mini campaign, the main campaign, and a third mini campaign for NTTR. A lot of effort and time has been lately spent on optimizing the aircraft and the code and/or calculations behind various systems. We've offloaded the ground radar and a few other items to seperate threads and cores, significantly minimizing impact on CPU time. Additional time has been spent on writing various automated tests, including tests to ascertain stability (to fix crashes) and to automatically test flight parameters and/or performance. We're nervous and excited for you all to fly the aircraft. <insert S-Word> Many thanks for your support, always! LN Thanks for the update!! I really appreciate it, even though it makes waiting even harder, because of increasing excitement :D I don't think I've ever been that excited for a DCS module as I am for the Viggen. The wait is really killing me. :joystick: How about an official anouncement of the module? Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
drPhibes Posted October 13, 2016 Posted October 13, 2016 The biggest disadvantage of the Viggen (even back at the time of the norwegian decision) is, that it needs different variants for different roles (...) ...and the fact that the Viggen (and later Gripen) wasn't made in the US. After getting US aircraft for free as military aid during the cold war, buying from anyone else has, unfortunately, been out of the question after we had to start paying for them. The "competition" a few years ago was heavily biased towards the F-35 (which lead to both Eurofighter and Dassault pulling their tenders before the final stages of the competition), and I'm sure it was the same way 40 years ago.
Pikey Posted October 13, 2016 Posted October 13, 2016 Oh wow, this made me very happy to hear. i think the S word must be Svenska, the Swedish guys i fly with are having problems controlling themselves! Ridiculous to ask a question, but I'm interested if LNS are going to full release or some type of early access with limited functionality to begin with? A minor update for ye fellow Viggenites! The crunch continues. Most of our work is still focused on fixing issues, blocking bugs, ironing out inconsistencies, fixing things that were broken due to version changes and adding a few very minor missing features. We've also been working hard on auxiliary content that is somewhat seperate from the aircraft. This includes the training suite, the mini campaign, the main campaign, and a third mini campaign for NTTR. A lot of effort and time has been lately spent on optimizing the aircraft and the code and/or calculations behind various systems. We've offloaded the ground radar and a few other items to seperate threads and cores, significantly minimizing impact on CPU time. Additional time has been spent on writing various automated tests, including tests to ascertain stability (to fix crashes) and to automatically test flight parameters and/or performance. We're nervous and excited for you all to fly the aircraft. <insert S-Word> Many thanks for your support, always! LN ___________________________________________________________________________ SIMPLE SCENERY SAVING * SIMPLE GROUP SAVING * SIMPLE STATIC SAVING *
mattebubben Posted October 13, 2016 Posted October 13, 2016 Oh wow, this made me very happy to hear. i think the S word must be Svenska, the Swedish guys i fly with are having problems controlling themselves! Ridiculous to ask a question, but I'm interested if LNS are going to full release or some type of early access with limited functionality to begin with? Personally i would lean towards the S word Being "Soon" as in "We're nervous and excited for you all to fly the aircraft Soon"
JaNk0 Posted October 13, 2016 Posted October 13, 2016 Personally i would lean towards the S word Being "Soon" as in "We're nervous and excited for you all to fly the aircraft Soon" Took me a day to figure out but I agree with Mattebubben, I think he ment "soon". [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
QuiGon Posted October 13, 2016 Posted October 13, 2016 Oh wow, this made me very happy to hear. i think the S word must be Svenska, the Swedish guys i fly with are having problems controlling themselves! Ridiculous to ask a question, but I'm interested if LNS are going to full release or some type of early access with limited functionality to begin with? I have the impression, that it has full functionality already :) Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
Vincent90 Posted October 13, 2016 Posted October 13, 2016 Cobra, is it already clear over how many threads and cores you'll spread the workload, i.e. what will be the optimal processor to run the DCS with Viggen? And for us fans, here is a Viggen in its natural habitat
WinterH Posted October 13, 2016 Posted October 13, 2016 Took me a day to figure out but I agree with Mattebubben, I think he ment "soon". To be precise, I think that would be "Soon" :D Wishlist: F-4E Block 53 +, MiG-27K, Su-17M3 or M4, AH-1F or W circa 80s or early 90s, J35 Draken, Kfir C7, Mirage III/V DCS-Dismounts Script
NeilWillis Posted October 13, 2016 Posted October 13, 2016 Cobra, is it already clear over how many threads and cores you'll spread the workload, i.e. what will be the optimal processor to run the DCS with Viggen? The threads and cores used are not determined by the module creators, but are the domain of the core program - in other words ED. So the Viggen will use just the same resources as every other module. Recommended computer spec will be unchanged from that for DCS 2.0, but of course, the more powerful your processor/GPU/Memory combo, the better frame rates you will achieve. If you search for the DCS Benchmark thread on the forum, you'll get all the info you'll need to make an informed choice.
JaNk0 Posted October 13, 2016 Posted October 13, 2016 The threads and cores used are not determined by the module creators, but are the domain of the core program - in other words ED. So the Viggen will use just the same resources as every other module. Recommended computer spec will be unchanged from that for DCS 2.0, but of course, the more powerful your processor/GPU/Memory combo, the better frame rates you will achieve. If you search for the DCS Benchmark thread on the forum, you'll get all the info you'll need to make an informed choice. For all we know, ED might offer thread creation in newer builds :music_whistling:. Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the sound run on a separate core or at least it was planned to ? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Farks Posted October 13, 2016 Posted October 13, 2016 And for us fans, here is a Viggen in its natural habitat And this begs the question, any plans to feature the Bas 90 system in DCS? So the thrust reverser can be put to good use.
shaggy Posted October 13, 2016 Posted October 13, 2016 And this begs the question, any plans to feature the Bas 90 system in DCS? So the thrust reverser can be put to good use. Regarding this I have the idea of making s peaceable bas 90 system as a scenery object. If I'm correct you will be able to make your own grass strip airbases on the Normandy map, so maybe it could be possible to build your own road bases the same way ? Intel Core i7-8700 3,20GHz - EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 - 32Gb Ram - DCS on 500 GB SSD - Windows 10 - Thrusmaster Warthog - Thrustmaster TPR pedals - Track Ir 5 - Samsung Odyssey+ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.virtualredarrows.com
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