Is the DCS world round?

[dburne]

I might also add that pancakes are never quite flat!!:D

 

Well mine are sure as flat as a monitor!

:doh:

[Zimmerdylan]

Shape

 

Main article: Figure of the Earth

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World map color-coded by relative height

 

 

The shape of Earth approximates an oblate spheroid, a sphere flattened along the axis from pole to pole such that there is a bulge around the equator.[95] This bulge results from the rotation of Earth, and causes the diameter at the equator to be 43 kilometres (27 mi) larger than the pole-to-pole diameter.[96] Thus the point on the surface farthest from Earth's center of mass is the summit of the equatorial Chimborazo volcano in Ecuador.[97][98][99][100] The average diameter of the reference spheroid is about 12,742 kilometres (7,918 mi), which is approximately 40,000 km/π, because the meter was originally defined as 1/10,000,000 of the distance from the equator to the North Pole through Paris, France.[101]

Local topography deviates from this idealized spheroid, although on a global scale these deviations are small compared to Earth's radius: The maximum deviation of only 0.17% is at the Mariana Trench (10,911 metres (35,797 ft) below local sea level), whereas Mount Everest (8,848 metres (29,029 ft) above local sea level) represents a deviation of 0.14%. If Earth were shrunk to the size of a billiard ball, some areas of Earth such as large mountain ranges and oceanic trenches would feel like tiny imperfections, whereas much of the planet, including the Great Plains and the abyssal plains, would feel smoother.[102]

Good ole Wiki!!!

[cichlidfan]

At billiard ball size, it still isn't spherical enough to actually use in a game (unless you were playing in 3D space including gravity wells, in which case such imperfections would not matter). :P

[dopebogey]

 

I might also add that pancakes are never quite flat!!:D

 

 

...But always quite delicious! :)

 

..And waffles too

[NeilWillis]

Sayes who ?

 

According to several youtube videos and www sites, there is a good chance the earth is flat and square, Govements just wants us to belive its a sphere:thumbup:

 

Don't tell everyone! The conspiracy theorists will have a field day if these facts ever get out!

[firmek]

AFAIK Nevada is curved. Caucasus is not (exept for ME map). I might remember wrongly, but two helos flying at 40 mt on the opposite side of the caucasus sea had los with script testing.

 

Spherical you mean? Globes are spheres, coins are round. The NTTR Map isn't round, it is rectangular. It is also a fraction of a sphere.

 

But both are rectangular and what's more important it is the fact that the sun moves around them! And (if you know a special trick) you can zoom far far away out to see how the whole map looks like :):

 

 

Edited January 29, 2016 by firmek

[MiG21bisFishbedL]

And that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped.

[TomOnSteam]

Where does the turtle come into all of this? And I never understood what the turtle is riding on.

[jvanhoog]

As a lady once told Joseph Campbell, "you can't fool me sonny it's turtles all the way down".

[sobek]

 

Makes >15.000 posts on a flightsim forum, complains about nerds. :doh:;)

[Bushmanni]

Is there official confirmation somewhere that NTTR is curved or has someone actually tested it? AFAIK the only official word is that DCS 2.0 supports curved maps but I haven't seen any mention if NTTR actually uses this feature. NTTR is so small that curved or not doesn't make any difference though so measuring it might be hard to do.

 

The real ramifications of having curved map would present itself in the internal coordinate system of the game as getting altitude coordinates isn't just a simple extraction of single coordinate in single axis as vertical axis is different in every point of the map. So far I haven't seen any changes in scripting engine to make it work with a curved earth which makes me believe there's no map using curved earth surface atm. in DCS. Can anyone confirm I'm wrong as I'd like to be?

[NineLine]

Makes >15.000 posts on a flightsim forum, complains about nerds. :doh:;)

 

Wasn't a complaint, was an observation ;)

 

I am more Team Geek than Team Nerd :D

[mytai01]

Please...make...it...STOP!!!

[7rooper]

After all these conspiracy theories about the earth shape I would like to know if NTTR is actually curved or entirely flat

[molevitch]

After all these conspiracy theories about the earth shape I would like to know if NTTR is actually curved or entirely flat

 

Does a flat Earth have an horizon? What happens where the earth meets the sky in the distance? If it's flat it goes on forever, flat....:huh:

[Bushmanni]

If your sightline is perfectly parallel to a flat surface, the line will never hit it. If it is even slightly depressed it will eventually hit the surface and if it's slightly elevated it continually gets farther from the surface and thus never hits the surface. As a clear distinction between sky and surface clearly exists a visible horizon also exists.

[Vampyre]

Sayes who ?

 

According to several youtube videos and www sites, there is a good chance the earth is flat and square, Govements just wants us to belive its a sphere:thumbup:

 

Also, how could anyone not know about the recent studies conducted by noted astrophysicist Bobby Ray who has conclusively proved that the earth is indeed flat in the scientific journal twitter... with photographic proof as well...:doh:

 

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/26/entertainment/rapper-bob-earth-flat-theory/

 

 

 

 

Luckily, Neil DeGrasse Tyson had a classy response to those theories.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/29/entertainment/neil-degrasse-tyson-bob-flat-earth-twitter-spat/index.html

[7rooper]

Also, how could anyone not know about the recent studies conducted by noted astrophysicist Bobby Ray who has conclusively proved that the earth is indeed flat in the scientific journal twitter... with photographic proof as well...

oh, men... what a jackass

 

Does a flat Earth have an horizon? What happens where the earth meets the sky in the distance? If it's flat it goes on forever, flat....

It seems like you took astrophysics classes with BoB.

Indeed, the sky meets the land far away in the horizon but not necessarily because the earth it's spherical but due to the perspective where things get narrower at their further limits

[jweisner]

And that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped.

 

Endured this thread to find this. Leaving satisfied that justice has been served.

 

After all these conspiracy theories about the earth shape I would like to know if NTTR is actually curved or entirely flat

 

It's theoretically curved at the moment, but let's see how this thread goes.

/popcorn

[mytai01]

It's round on all sides...:)

[Wunderwolf]

Spherical you mean? Globes are spheres, coins are round. The NTTR Map isn't round, it is rectangular. It is also a fraction of a sphere.

 

Well the NTTR map (and normandy) are rectangular in their representation in the ME.

In DCS World 2 in the rendered envoirenment, i think it is not "rectangular".

 

They stated that they have implemented the "clipmapping" algorithm.

The original paper work with an regular grid. And therefore its good for planar representations.

(Working in Euclidean space)

 

Of course i do some "blackbox" speculation now here ... but ...

If you watch in a free floating camera ... in 2.1 normandy .... looking straight down to the terrain (Perpendicular to the terrain ...) and moves from it away. At some point you notice how a circular region becomes smaller and is blending in to the rest of the terrain.

 

That looks like the spherical extension of clipmapping (Spherical Clipmaps) wich is used if you try to represent a spherical bodys terrain. (Non-Euclidean Space ... )

Conclusion, DCS World 2 is indeed "round" ... ;-)

 

http://www.malteclasen.de/zib/download/SphericalClipmaps_Electronic.pdf

Edited May 28, 2017 by Wunderwolf

[The Black Swan]

[pulls out popcorn]

[Weta43]

I remember Wags (?) saying that the engine supports the creation of spherical (or portions of spherical) maps, but that at the time of writing, all were flat.

 

RE:

 

According to several youtube videos and www sites, there is a good chance the earth is flat and square, Govements just wants us to belive its a sphere:thumbup:

 

I think I saw a youtube clip that said that according to several youtube videos and www sites, there is good evidence some people will believe absolutely anything they see in a youtube clip, if the poster adds below that "Governments don't want you to know this".

[Coxy_99]

We all know DCSW is flat ;)

[Bryan Bedwell]

Really? I compared several points within the NTTR map to Google Earth and all coords match perfectly. Try that with Falcon BMS and it's a totally different story.

 

Are the new maps (NTTR, Normandy) laid on a piece of an ellipsoid?

Edited June 3, 2017 by Bryan Bedwell