Frogisis Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 The Caucasus is basically the core of DCS; everyone has it and everyone wants it to look as good as possible. If they've got, say, $10 lying around and if that's what it takes and if they can get it to Starway without hassle, most people will probably do it even if they're just lurkers in the community who never make a peep to let us know they're out there. For when it goes wrong: Win10x64, GTX1080, Intel i7 @3.5 GHz, 32GB DDR3, Warthog HOTAS, Saitek combat rudder pedals, TrackIR 5 / Vive Pro, a case of Pabst, The Funk
zaelu Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 (just look at this thread) This is the problem... it's all there is. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least
Bullant Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 At the $3K price surely it would be easier for EVERYONE for ED to buy the rights from Starway and incorporate all the hard work into the base software. From what I can it is a significant increase in quality over the base maps and I would have to assume that ED would have to spend way more than that to do the work themselves. Intel i7 13700K @ 5.3 GHz / ASUS TUF Gaming Z490-Plus / 64 Gb G.Skill DDR4-3600 / RTX 4090 / 2TB Kingston KC3000 NVME / Win 10 x64 Pro / Pimax Crystal / WINWING F/A-18 HOTAS A-10C, AJS-37, AV-8B, F-4E, F-5E, F-14, F-15E, F-16, F/A-18C, F-86F, FC3, Christen Eagle 2, FW190D-9, Mosquito, P-47D, P-51D, Spitfire, AH-64D, KA-50, UH-1H Combined Arms, WWII Asset Pack, China Assets Pack, Super Carrier, Falklands Assets Nevada, Normandy, Persian Gulf, The Channel, Syria, Mariana Islands, South Atlantic, Sinai, Kola, Afghanistan
kolga Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 ...I hope you understand. Starway We understand! "Long life It is a waste not to notice that it is not noticed that it is milk in the title." Amazon.co.jp review for milk translated from Japanese "Amidst the blue skies, A link from past to future. The sheltering wings of the protector..." - ACE COMBAT 4 "Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight"-Psalm 144:1 KJV i5-4430 at 3.00GHz, 8GB RAM, GTX 1060 FE, Windows 7 x64
ebabil Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 Since it's better than default textures, after he reaches his target, ed makes this mod it's default texture. FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
Dudikoff Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 Everyone's waiting for the DCS 2.5 merge which is being worked on and when that happens, the T3 level texture pack would probably become useless without some compatibility changes if I understand correctly? That seems risky and I'd be happier investing into something which will get updated for 2.5, so if you keep this scheme, perhaps it would make more sense to aim for the higher target from the get go? Crowd funding sites seem like a good idea, but I think Kickstarter takes 15% of the amount which seems to be a lot for this small amount, not sure about IndieGoGo. 1 i386DX40@42 MHz w/i387 CP, 4 MB RAM (8*512 kB), Trident 8900C 1 MB w/16-bit RAMDAC ISA, Quantum 340 MB UDMA33, SB 16, DOS 6.22 w/QEMM + Win3.11CE, Quickshot 1btn 2axis, Numpad as hat. 2 FPH on a good day, 1 FPH avg. DISCLAIMER: My posts are still absolutely useless. Just finding excuses not to learn the F-14 (HB's Swansong?). Annoyed by my posts? Please consider donating. Once the target sum is reached, I'll be off to somewhere nice I promise not to post from. I'd buy that for a dollar!
Sulaco Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 This is the problem... it's all there is. I've got to imagine that when Starway puts up the website and goes live for release, ED will promote it somehow either through a newsletter or front page banner. It sounds like ED was really bummed when they couldn't help Starway out with a full release so I'm guessing they'll help him promote it in any way they can. Keep in mind, this is all just rose coloured, positive guesswork on my behalf - I'm just trying to keep a positive attitude as I'm looking forward to the content and the last thing Starway needs is the community thinking it will fail.
MAD-MM Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 Detonations Targerts in Flight sim's most time total failure, that's why i asking is there no different way. When Starway dont recive his goal you pay money for nothing, personall think about did is spent money nothing happens i can usuall kick this money right away out of the window same target. 1 Once you have tasted Flight, you will forever walk the Earth with your Eyes turned Skyward. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 9./JG27
Bucic Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 Everyone's waiting for the DCS 2.5 merge which is being worked on and when that happens, the T3 level texture pack would probably become useless without some compatibility changes if I understand correctly? That is my impression as well. F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
Mainstay Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 I fully understand the point you stand now Starway. I think the plan you came up with is the best route you can take to get a stable income for the work you have done. But i really think and this is my personal opinion that Eagle Dynamics should buy the rights for the 3000$ and distrubute it through the official channels. Somehow it just doesnt feel right that because the protection system failed to implement your whole project is dropped and no longer in association with ED even though that was the initial plan. I would therefor like to ask Eagle Dynamics to help Starway and buy the rights for the T3 and T4 packages. I have bonus $ on my account that im willing to trade in for ED helping Starway. Hell im even willing to pay for a Cap or T-shirt that ED sells through the store to get some of the money back for the packages. 1
Plagi_Arism Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 In the past numerous 3D model makers, modders and texture artists (not beginners) had public donation addresses but they received very few donations only for thier gorgeous works. This community not really thankful and rewarding. (ED knows it too) Most of the users do not even realize how much work is behind "small" things. Tells a lot that it looks ED do not want to "jeopardise" 2-3 thousands of coins on this project. --- Just saying ED also would start a crowdfounding campaing for any "doubtful" update or DCS facelift project. Even on their own forum or website. May the THRUST be with you
sirscorpion Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 (edited) Thank you for your patience but I really had to think hard about this. So here is the plan: I will set up a wordpress site with a donation option. The texture pack is on hold until the amount of 2000$ is reached. Then the T3 package will we provided for the whole community for free. When the amount of donations will reach 3000 $ I will release the T4 package under the same conditions. Please be aware that this is not only a mod, even it has lost its official status, content wise it is still a DLC. I put more than a year of work into this, many rounds of corrections with ED and even jeopardized my real life job for this. That is why I can't just give it out for free. I hope you understand. All the best, Starway wish you the best off luck, and hope things go back on track for you. To ED, just pay the man, and add this as a free update to DCS world. the game looking better is simply a selling point. No need to complicate the whole thing. Edited May 25, 2016 by sirscorpion 1
Starway Posted May 25, 2016 Author Posted May 25, 2016 Everyone's waiting for the DCS 2.5 merge which is being worked on and when that happens, the T3 level texture pack would probably become useless without some compatibility changes if I understand correctly? No, with the T4 update, some textures will still be the same. But some others will need some updates. That is why I have these two steps in the payment schedule. Best, SW System: Intel Core i5 3570K | GTX 980 OC | 16 GB DDR3 1600 | 500 GB SSD
Aginor Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 Not quite happy about some donation buttons out there, especially if they are run by PayPal. Please make sure you have an option for people to just pay by credit card without making any accounts or crap like that. DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet
Abburo Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 (edited) Thank you for your patience but I really had to think hard about this. So here is the plan: [...] I hope you understand. All the best, Starway Your approach is very ok. I will take "the risk" and make a donation even the target will not be reach out. Waiting for wordpress to be ready. I will be sure that I can cover 2 DCS instances I am currently using for me and my son ;) And please don't loose your dedication for what you are actually doing. My preference for donation goes with PayPal, but you need to be sure you will have multiple options there. And yes, ED should take at least a part of this targets to be achieved. In the end this is a win-win solution. Nobody loose, everybody will be happy. Edited May 25, 2016 by Abburo Romanian Community for DCS World HW Specs: AMD 7900X, 64GB RAM, RTX 4090, HOTAS Virpil, MFG, CLS-E, custom
Shavik Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 (edited) Not quite happy about some donation buttons out there, especially if they are run by PayPal. Please make sure you have an option for people to just pay by credit card without making any accounts or crap like that. You haven't had to create an account on Paypal to use it for quite some time. Not saying I like the company but just correcting your information. I also would like to note that I'd gladly donate as soon as the link is posted. One big question I have, is will there still be A-10C TGP FLIR mode problems with this texture pack? Edited May 25, 2016 by Shavik
Akki Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 I'm in with the donation too. I hope you get rewarded for all that effort you have invested in. Win 8.1, I7 4770K 4.5ghz watercooled, 240gb SSD in Raid 0, 16GB DDR3-2400, EVGA GTX780 watercooled, LG 29EA73-P (2560x1080) Cobra M5 *modded by BRD*, CH Pro Throttle, Pro Combat Pedals, TrackIR5 Pro + Delanclip, Bose QC 15, TM Cougar MFD's 300/30 mbps
gospadin Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 Thank you for your patience but I really had to think hard about this. So here is the plan: I will set up a wordpress site with a donation option. The texture pack is on hold until the amount of 2000$ is reached. Then the T3 package will we provided for the whole community for free. When the amount of donations will reach 3000 $ I will release the T4 package under the same conditions. Please be aware that this is not only a mod, even it has lost its official status, content wise it is still a DLC. I put more than a year of work into this, many rounds of corrections with ED and even jeopardized my real life job for this. That is why I can't just give it out for free. I hope you understand. All the best, Starway So do people who donate get the pack even if the total of $2000 is not reached? Or does it have to reach $2000 before anyone gets the pack? If the plan is the latter, seems like a kickstarter type setup would make sense. My liveries, mods, and missions for DCS:World M-2000C English Cockpit | Extra Beacons Mod | Nav Kneeboard | Community A-4E
Martini Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 So do people who donate get the pack even if the total of $2000 is not reached? Or does it have to reach $2000 before anyone gets the pack? If the plan is the latter, seems like a kickstarter type setup would make sense. If you read the post you quoted it is apparent that nobody gets anything until $2000 is donated, even if they paid. It will get to $2000 in the first week. People need to stop wondering what will happen if the threshold isn't reached, it will be reached, I GUARANTEE it.
Aginor Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 That'S why it is called "donation", not pledging. ...which in turn is why I would like to support a Kickstarter by Starway. A pledge is a pledge. I'd also donate something but I prefer pledging. DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet
Koriel Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 I fully understand the point you stand now Starway. I think the plan you came up with is the best route you can take to get a stable income for the work you have done. But i really think and this is my personal opinion that Eagle Dynamics should buy the rights for the 3000$ and distrubute it through the official channels. Somehow it just doesnt feel right that because the protection system failed to implement your whole project is dropped and no longer in association with ED even though that was the initial plan. I would therefor like to ask Eagle Dynamics to help Starway and buy the rights for the T3 and T4 packages. I have bonus $ on my account that im willing to trade in for ED helping Starway. Hell im even willing to pay for a Cap or T-shirt that ED sells through the store to get some of the money back for the packages. I wanted to +1 you, but apparently you had my last one already.. ;-) I second your plan, I have quite some bonus $ as well. Let ED enhance their map with Starway's help! If not, I'll support Starway in whatever way he chooses.
Madbrood Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 Was willing to donate to Staraway for this, but I'm going to wait to see if it hits the first target - not risking it until then. i7-4770k | EVGA GTX 980 SC | 16GB DDR3 | TrackIR 5, TM Warthog HOTAS, Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals DCS: F-16C, F/A-18C, F-14A/B, AV-8B, FC3, A-10C, Black Shark II, UH-1H, F-86F, MiG-21bis, Mirage 2000C, AJS-37, F-5E :pilotfly:
ED Team f-18hornet Posted May 25, 2016 ED Team Posted May 25, 2016 That'S why it is called "donation", not pledging. ...which in turn is why I would like to support a Kickstarter by Starway. A pledge is a pledge. I'd also donate something but I prefer pledging. I gree with it that Kickstarter with two stages - $2000 for T3 and $3000 for T4 would be good option. AMD Ryzen 9 3900X, GeForce RTX 2080Ti, 32 GB DRAM, HOTAS TM Warthog, FSSB R3 Lighting, MFG Crosswind, Win 10 Pro
gospadin Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 If you read the post you quoted it is apparent that nobody gets anything until $2000 is donated, even if they paid. It will get to $2000 in the first week. People need to stop wondering what will happen if the threshold isn't reached, it will be reached, I GUARANTEE it. I appreciate your enthusiasm for the community, but that's a silly guarantee to make unless you personally are writing him a check in-full for $3000. The world is full of "sure things" that failed for reasons none of us expected. My liveries, mods, and missions for DCS:World M-2000C English Cockpit | Extra Beacons Mod | Nav Kneeboard | Community A-4E
Martini Posted May 25, 2016 Posted May 25, 2016 I appreciate your enthusiasm for the community, but that's a silly guarantee to make unless you personally are writing him a check in-full for $3000. The world is full of "sure things" that failed for reasons none of us expected. It's $2000 for the initial release, not $3000...it's almost like you're not even reading the posts :( Again, I said I GUARANTEE it.
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