GTX1080 who is buying it?

[OldE24]

AMD

 

livestream tonigth at like 10PM EST MAY or MAYNOT contain polaris info

 

i didnt post a link because i dont know and rally dont wanna watch the hoopla but am interested in the cut down notes.

Edited May 31, 2016 by OldE24

[Gladman]

Gee, reference card cooling...what a shock!

 

 

Don't be a hater :smilewink:

[cichlidfan]

Don't be a hater :smilewink:

 

No offense intended. That is just one of the reasons that I don't buy reference cards. It is rather like the cooler that Intel ships with their chips. The last time I used a stock CPU cooler was around 1997 when I bought a Celeron 300A, which I did manage to run for several years at 450MHz.

 

:)

[Gladman]

Yeah, I'll be adding an aftermarket water cooler when they become available for sure.

[Pilotasso]

Roflmao:

 

Computers never lie! ;)

[wolle]

This will be the first time ever I am going to upgrade a graphics card, so forgive my silly question: I was expecting that the prizes for the 980 Ti will drop very significantly once the new 1000 series is out, but I checked on Newegg the 980 Ti card is over $700, more than the 1070 and 1080 cards. What gives? What am I misunderstanding?:helpsmilie:

[hughlb]

This will be the first time ever I am going to upgrade a graphics card, so forgive my silly question: I was expecting that the prizes for the 980 Ti will drop very significantly once the new 1000 series is out, but I checked on Newegg the 980 Ti card is over $700, more than the 1070 and 1080 cards. What gives? What am I misunderstanding?:helpsmilie:

 

It's just the nature of being on the cusp of a generation change from 9-series to 10-series. The 980 Ti is a super high end model in the 9-series, and is therefore in a high price bracket. The 1070 should be a similar price to the 970, the 1080/980 etc. When a 1080 Ti is released, it will also be up around $700.

 

So all that considered, this is why you don't buy a 980 Ti at this priec when the 1070/80 is about to be released. Prices may drop as the 10-series becomes more accessible.

Edited June 1, 2016 by hughlb

[cichlidfan]

Prices may drop as the 10-series becomes more accessible.

 

This is the root of the issue. Technically, the 1070/80 have been released but until availability is better I would not expect to see a price drop the the 900 series, with the 980ti still being at or near 10 series prices for a while.

[SkateZilla]

Polaris RX480 will be availible June 29th, for $199.

 

Just sayin,

 

also 2 RX480s beat the 1080, while only using 51% utilization.

 

Tag line was "Bottom line you dont need a 700 GPU to play games"

 

3 of them using EMA in DX12 for 600 and 450w total, while spanking 2x 1080s, yup.

Edited June 1, 2016 by SkateZilla

[hughlb]

Polaris RX480 will be availible June 29th, for $199.

 

Just sayin,

 

also 2 RX480s beat the 1080, while only using 51% utilization.

 

Tag line was "Bottom line you dont need a 700 GPU to play games"

 

3 of them using EMA in DX12 for 600 and 450w total, while spanking 2x 1080s, yup.

 

So how will the RX480 stack up against the 1070? For DCS?

[OldE24]

So how will the RX480 stack up against the 1070? For DCS?

 

only time will tell not good to make ASSumptions at this point the benchmarks will be around soon enough they go on sale june 29th.

[wolle]

It's just the nature of being on the cusp of a generation change from 9-series to 10-series. The 980 Ti is a super high end model in the 9-series, and is therefore in a high price bracket. The 1070 should be a similar price to the 970, the 1080/980 etc. When a 1080 Ti is released, it will also be up around $700.

 

So all that considered, this is why you don't buy a 980 Ti at this priec when the 1070/80 is about to be released. Prices may drop as the 10-series becomes more accessible.

 

Thanks for your answer. Now I've just read that the GTX 1070 bests all 900 series cards, including the 980 Ti, and it sells for under $400. So, unless the 980 Ti soon becomes dirt cheap (around $200), is there any reason for not buying the 1070 right now, rather than waiting for the 980 Ti price to drop?:helpsmilie:

[Abburo]

Even 9xx prices will drop down, I will not look back to them. Budget wise 1070 is a good deal, performance wise 1080 to go...

 

As far as a I am concerned I will wait for factory overcloked 1080 from any trusted vendor. I will even take in consideration watercooled version because thermal throttling is present despite their claimed low power consumption.

[hughlb]

Thanks for your answer. Now I've just read that the GTX 1070 bests all 900 series cards, including the 980 Ti, and it sells for under $400. So, unless the 980 Ti soon becomes dirt cheap (around $200), is there any reason for not buying the 1070 right now, rather than waiting for the 980 Ti price to drop?:helpsmilie:

 

Given that the 1070 appears to beat the 980 Ti in benchmarks, and is two tiers below (Ti>80>70), then I think the 1070 offers the better price/performance/generation choice. As stock remains and demand for the 980 Ti goes down, yes I'd expect reductions, but I never recall the Ti cards dropping all that much.

 

Also, those two extra gigs of video memory on the 1070 is appealing.

[Hadwell]

Given that the 1070 appears to beat the 980 Ti in benchmarks, and is two tiers below (Ti>80>70), then I think the 1070 offers the better price/performance/generation choice. As stock remains and demand for the 980 Ti goes down, yes I'd expect reductions, but I never recall the Ti cards dropping all that much.

 

Also, those two extra gigs of video memory on the 1070 is appealing.

 

I think AMDs next card, their 480X or whatever is going to be the best performance per dollar card ever made, rumors currently state it as being roughly as fast as a stock 980, and in crossfire(dual gpu sucks), it's able to match the 1080. 250$ for an 8gb version, 200$ for a 4GB version.

 

this will definitely bring the cost of the 980ti down, probably the 1080 too.

 

keep in mind: best performance per dollar is not the same thing as best performance, the 1080/1070 are still better than the 480X if these rumours are true.

Edited June 1, 2016 by Hadwell

[Wolf Rider]

GTX 1080 "Founders" edition AUD $1200 - go figure

[sobek]

Polaris RX480 will be availible June 29th, for $199.

 

Just sayin,

 

also 2 RX480s beat the 1080, while only using 51% utilization.

 

Tag line was "Bottom line you dont need a 700 GPU to play games"

 

3 of them using EMA in DX12 for 600 and 450w total, while spanking 2x 1080s, yup.

 

Which is pretty moot for DCS though.

[Gladman]

Gotta agree Sobek, we don't have DX12.

[agrasyuk]

Polaris RX480 will be availible June 29th, for $199.

 

Just sayin,

 

also 2 RX480s beat the 1080, while only using 51% utilization.

 

Tag line was "Bottom line you dont need a 700 GPU to play games"

 

3 of them using EMA in DX12 for 600 and 450w total, while spanking 2x 1080s, yup.

 

There is some interesting talk going on about difference in quality settings for those benches. It is quite likely that pair RX480 just about matches 1080. Something tells me that we will see independent recreation of that bench soon enough ;)

 

It's great that there will be something to drive down cost of NV cards but multi GPU or dx12 is really irrelevant to us.

Edited June 1, 2016 by agrasyuk

[SkateZilla]

There is some interesting talk going on about difference in quality settings for those benches. It is quite likely that pair RX480 just about matches 1080. Something tells me that we will see independent recreation of that bench soon enough ;)

 

It's great that there will be something to drive down cost of NV cards but multi GPU or dx12 is really irrelevant to is.

 

 

 

towards the end of the demo, there was a definate visual difference in the ground mapping/shadowing, but Im not sure if that was a result of GFX setti gs or environment destruction etc.

[Scendore]

What will actually be interesting is the 1080TI based on the GP 102. It's in between the 104 which is releasing now and the GP 100. What I am interested in is whether they use HMB2 memory which is really going to change things especially at 4K settings and VR.

[SkateZilla]

What will actually be interesting is the 1080TI based on the GP 102. It's in between the 104 which is releasing now and the GP 100. What I am interested in is whether they use HMB2 memory which is really going to change things especially at 4K settings and VR.

 

Last I saw was that GP102 was going to use GDDR5X at like 12GHz and not HBM2

[SkateZilla]

Lot's of People reportin' 1080's NOT working w/ the Rift.

 

Either Doesnt detect it at all on HDMI or Detects HDMI but doesnt Initialize the Displays.

[Scendore]

Last I saw was that GP102 was going to use GDDR5X at like 12GHz and not HBM2

 

Yeah it's all rumor right now but they may not have enough HBM2 to mass produce it. We will see.

[SkateZilla]

HBM2 is still behind in production and yields are meh.

 

another reason GP100 is retailing for 5K.