Is shrike necessary?

[ebabil]

Since we are going to get harm and other agm-88's, why are we also getting agm-45 a and b?

isn't it older version of anti radiation missiles? what is the difference? does it have any advantages over agm-88?

Edited November 21, 2018 by ebabil

[QuiGon]

The Shrike has zero advantages over the HARM, but a lot of disadvantages. But that's not a reason for or against the implementation. We have many weapons like that (e.g. why do we have the AIM-120B if we have the AIM-120C?).

 

The problem with the Shrike is, that it is not entirely clear if it has ever been used on the F/A-18C.

 

This has been discussed a bit before. Here for example: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=223089

[shagrat]

I am all in for options here. Depending on fictional 80ies /90ies campaigns or other scenarios, you might want to have an option for a not so lethal AntiRadiationMissile.

As Qui-Gon said, why do we need AIM-7 if we have the "better' AIM-120B/C. Why an option for AIM-9M if we have the advantageous AIM-9X... because it gives mission designers and server mission hosters a lot of options, from scenarios to balancing gameplay.

 

One criteria is important for me, though: the plane must be capable of carrying/employing the weapon.

Optional panels/changes in the cockpit, as with the MiG-21 or the Gazelle versions are absolutely ok, but not a fictional mock up switch or page to put weapons on a plane it was never able to employ without a major rewiring and systems update.

[QuiGon]

I am all in for options here. Depending on fictional 80ies /90ies campaigns or other scenarios, you might want to have an option for a not so lethal AntiRadiationMissile.

As Qui-Gon said, why do we need AIM-7 if we have the "better' AIM-120B/C. Why an option for AIM-9M if we have the advantageous AIM-9X... because it gives mission designers and server mission hosters a lot of options, from scenarios to balancing gameplay.

 

One criteria is important for me, though: the plane must be capable of carrying/employing the weapon.

Optional panels/changes in the cockpit, as with the MiG-21 or the Gazelle versions are absolutely ok, but not a fictional mock up switch or page to put weapons on a plane it was never able to employ without a major rewiring and systems update.

Exactly this!

[StandingCow]

Some servers might want to ban the HARM. Having the shrike would be useful in that case if you want both sides having a bit "weaker" SEAD capability.

[Silvern]

Yeah, older - less capable weapons have their place in the game!

Shrike will be awesome.

[Tholozor]

Also, just as a heads-up for the OP, the AGM-84 Harpoon is an anti-ship missile, the AGM-88 is the HARM.

[ebabil]

ah sorry for the typo, i meant 88

[Wags]

Necessary? No. But it is a low-priority system for those that want to go old-school.

[QuiGon]

Necessary? No. But it is a low-priority system for those that want to go old-school.

I take from that, that ED has documentation that confirms that the F/A-18C was able to employ the Shrike and how it was implemented :)

[Wags]

I take from that, that ED has documentation that confirms that the F/A-18C was able to employ the Shrike and how it was implemented :)

 

Yup

[QuiGon]

Yup

:thumbup:

 

Looking forwards to employ them (especially when the Phantom gets released eventually :D).

[Sarge55]

And when the F-16 comes out it certainly used the Shrike.

[boscoh]

When you shoot the shrike, just remember not to look at it.

 

It'll blind you.

[The_Pharoah]

SEAD capability is one thing I'm eagerly awaiting. My squad does a lot of MP missions but we end up having to use the SU25T for SEAD (which looks really silly lol esp when all the strike a/c are carrier based). Once we get the Hornet with SEAD capability, that will REALLY open up the battlefield and deep strike capability using just the one aircraft type.

 

Right now the Hornet is almost defenseless against multiple enemy SAMs, esp with 30 flares/30 chaff only.

[Dino Might]

When you shoot the shrike, just remember not to look at it.

 

It'll blind you.

 

 

8) My missile's so bright, I gotta wear shades...

 

 

I really want the Shrike more than the Harm, because, well, Harm is going to be easy-mode. I'm also excited to see if Heatblur can get the license for the A-6, and then that will be perfect for creating a Vietnam era mission (yeah, it would be the A-6E, but with stores restrictions, it's not a bad stand-in).

[boscoh]

 

 

I'm also excited to see if Heatblur can get the license for the A-6, and then that will be perfect for creating a Vietnam era mission

 

You see, Iron hand's my thing.

[umkhunto]

You see, Iron hand's my thing.

Desire to blow up suspected truck parks intensifies.

[Sandman1330]

You see, Iron hand's my thing.

 

 

Funny though, while searching for this GIF, I came across this image:

 

 

First virtual carrier landing I ever did! Ahh, memories...

[Sarraceno]

Some servers might want to ban the HARM. Having the shrike would be useful in that case if you want both sides having a bit "weaker" SEAD capability.

 

 

Case on point, blueflag server has right now Kh58 forbidden while keeping the small one. HARM and Shrike surely would be the same case

[eaglecash867]

Desire to blow up suspected truck parks intensifies.

 

Don't forget the 3 tents under a tree and a couple of goat paths. :D