Would you buy a 1k throttle?

[crab]

Imagine a throttle, it's a beaut, something that you would describe as well thought out and well built. The kind of well built that 1k buys. Would you buy in at that price? I would. Couldn't see going all the way up to something along the lines of what Bugeyetech has out there that can run 5 digits but 1k, I would do. I was just kinda wondering if I was the rare outlier or if there were more of us nuts.

 

So that's it gents/gals: Are you in, seriously in, not just maybe kinda sorta depends. I'm talking you would go 1k for a throttle that checked all the right boxes?

 

Would you spend more?

[Supmua]

Would you buy a 1k throttle?

 

For throttle alone probably no, but if it comes with extra switches, knobs, gear lever, etc. then may be. It will have to surpass TMW throttle by a lot for me to take the plunge. That throttle is near perfect in my book after installing the slew mod. Love all the different types of switches that come with it.

Edited March 10, 2019 by Supmua

[Svsmokey]

Hell No !

[Mr_Burns]

For throttle alone probably no, but if it comes with extra switches, knobs, gear lever, etc. then may be. It will have to surpass TMW throttle by a lot for me to take the plunge. That throttle is near perfect in my book after installing the slew mod. Love all the different types of switches that come with it.

 

 

How easy is the slew mod as a complete mong at things?

[Mr_sukebe]

It would need to be pretty damn special. After all, the virpil unit is a third of that cost and a lovely thing.

Putting it another way, take the virpil unit as a reference point and justify the benefits that f spending three times the price.

[SUNTSAG]

At that price it would also need to make me breakfast for the rest of my life. :megalol:

[McG]

How easy is the slew mod as a complete mong at things?

 

See this thread:

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=200198

 

You purchase a unit from the creator of the thread that replaces the Warthog slew controller with a playstation style joystick. It takes about 5mins total to carry out.

[horus-DCS]

Only if it has my favorite features - reliable and durable structures, adjustability, extra switches, easy to mount, modify, repair, and replace parts. And should be a good ergonomical form. F-35 throttle would be good.

 

 

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[SharpeXB]

No

[dburne]

Not a chance.

[crab]

Looks like a strong trend toward, ah, hell no! Remember though, the premise up front is that the throttle really is 1k worth of throttle; it is your definition of what a throttle should be.

[Deezle]

I've already got a lot of money in my pit, no chance would I pay that much for just a throttle, unless I somehow became wealthy and had money to burn.

[Sokol1_br]

An Bugeyetech (or similar) made throttle - besides their nice "real" look will be a better game controller than an Warthog or Virpil throttle?

 

For ones that want build a close to real cockpit this 1K price may justify - more by the "form than by the function".

[Buckeye]

My current one, including sourcing my own buttons, cost $1525...so, yes

 

 

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[ZQuickSilverZ]

No.

 

Well...... maybe. Only if it came with a VERY generous warranty (like 7 years) and was built with maintenance and repair in mind. I am sure people are getting tired of buttons failing and things breaking and having to buy a whole new stick because they can't get replacement parts. I know companies need to sell new product but really it is very wasteful to trash a whole joystick over a cheap part.

[McG]

I currently have a Warthog with the Delta Alpha SIM slew mode.

 

A pro model that has realistic throw for the throttles and proper gates along with using better spec switches would be appealing, however I think that anything more expensive than the Thrustmaster TPR pedals starts to become too much out of reach unless you are building a high end sim.

 

Also the higher the price the less potential customers which in turn drives up costs.

 

I'll be keeping an eye on the Open Hornets throttle design. This might be a way to "upgrade" the mechanics of the Warthog without spending too much more money.

[Nooch]

No way I'd spend 1k on a throttle that would be a complete rip off.

[some1]

If you're looking for something at 1000 price range, Throttletek already has something for you.

 

But for most people, there is no need, as the current throttles from Thrustmaster or VPC are already quite good, especially with little modding. Or Kanttorin Kone if you're into WWII stuff. For something more or less custom GVL224 can build a device to your needs.

Edited March 11, 2019 by some1

[Sokol1_br]

..., Throttletek already has something for you.

 

Now only if your are in "airlines jet" business, their F-18 venture don't went well, apparently for both sides - manufacturer and consumers. ;)

[Rossterman]

Probably too rich for my blood as well. Now, a stick like the TM warthog with FFB functionality would be worth another $100 over the standad issue warthog stick. I just moved to the TM this week from the X52 saitek, and the build quality is night and day different. For $320 at the online sale at ABT it was hard to not buy it!

Edited March 11, 2019 by Rossterman

[delevero]

No i would never use 1000usd for a trottle.

 

( i own virpil joystick, base, and virpil trottle and total that was about 1000usd with transport and import tax... I regret after i order it, but now that it have arrived I think its really good quality that will last many years and I forgot about what i pay for it and have the feeling it can last 20 years = cheaper than buying new joystick every 2-5 years when the "cheaper" hotas systems become unprecise.. . All hotas i had in the past like the G940, x52, x52pro, x56 and so on all became unprecise after about 6 month usage. The virpil is after 6 month of ownership still 100% precise. )

[crab]

Again, the idea was it really is a thousand worth of throttle, whatever that means to the person responding. For me it would have to be extremely well made, precise, laid out so as to be able to support any aircraft, could be refurbished when worn. Over the years I've had 2 Cougars, a WH, CH, X-whatevers, MSFF, etc. I've got a lot of money into peripherals over time and that's not even counting the 3k laptops I've been buying so I can fly at work, multiple VR setups, all the rest of the fun stuff. To me such a stick might be an economical choice over time.

 

As to Throttletek, it seems they are closing up shop and no longer taking orders. I had been waiting to see if they would resolve their QC issues before I got serious about a purchase over there. In fact it was on that thread where I began to wonder if they would have been able to make a go of it if the price point were lower or it's just too small a market. I would pay it for the right kit but was I alone? That then became this thread. Certainly it appears like the market would be slim; if you don't see support at this site for a flight sim peripheral it doesn't have much hope of success.

[Deadman]

For a real throttle possibly it would depend on the Aircraft, there was an f-18 THROTTLE on FB sold for that, for a copy no way,

[Harlikwin]

I dunno, for a modular throttle setup that could be used with different types of planes, (plus a side axis for something like harrier nozzles) I'd totally pay that. Something where you could plug in a single or dual throttle on the top of like a warthog stick base? Totally worth a grand. Imagine a TM warthog throttle base that you could plug an F18 top end to or an F15? Or an F16 or harrier top end (just set the unused axis to zero?

[Fri13]

No, not really. The closest one would be the VKB modular one, but even that should need to be something very very special.

 

When I was flying only with the TrackIR, I would have easily purchased a complex HOTAS system.

 

But since VR and especially Oculus Touch controllers, I don't really care anymore. All that I want is the good stick, simple throttle and pedals. I want to be able bind the aircraft HOTAS buttons and axis to the real HOTAS as closely as in reality and that is it. Nothing else. Everything else in the cockpit is done with the touch controllers.

 

The touch controllers are that really do make the VR far more immersive, how you need to operate the aircraft by extending and moving your hands around. You need to think when you can do something and when not. That is something that no mouse or HMD mouse pointer can do.

 

And now when the VR hands are functional so you can press buttons and flip switches with the finger, it is just even better.

 

The ultimate situation is when we get a VR gloves or hand tracking, so we need to really move hands around without any controllers and no "laser beams" to flip/press from otherside of cockpit. That is the day when VR becomes a truly immersive.

 

People who binds all kind systems to their HOTAS doesn't know what immersion it is to be required to operate everything else than HOTAS itself by extending arm etc. That is why the throttle shouldn't be too expensive as you don't need much.

 

The only difference really is the Flaming Cliffs 3 aircrafts, as you can't click anything. And it always feels so bad now to fly those things as you just use HOTAS for everything from landing gear to flaps and radios etc.

 

2 years ago I would have said that with money I would pay 1000€ for a good throttle. But these days on VR I say that I wouldn't at all, but I would pay 1000€ for a seamesles VR gloves that work with Oculus sensors as 3D hands instead pointer. Meaning I could really just take off my hand from stick and operate KA-50 cockpit like program UV-26 or operate in A-10C the CDU and UFC.

 

But on deeper thought, lets say this way:

 

I would pay 300-400€ for a throttle that is modular by allowing me to without tools to swap any hat, mini-stick, button and switch as much as possible. Example I could pull out a 4 way hat from under thumb and place a 2 button centering switch. Or I can pull out a button and place there a 8 way hat or a 3-position switch.

 

I would consider a 1000€ for a full HOTAS, throttle that is modular, stick that is like a one from PAK-FA and has FF and then of course great pedals.