Include A-4E into DCS

[D4n]

There's this awesome mod, please include it into DCS!

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3692003#post3692003

[BlackLibrary]

+1

 

The mod gets more attention and we had more servers to fly it online.

But not as an ED module, more as an 3party Def. Module.

So that it stay as an comunity thing

[FSKRipper]

Since ED is moving away from SFM modules it is very unlikely.

[D4n]

as long as it doens't feel like flying-on-rails I'm ok with it

[Kang]

I'm fairly sure that that wouldn't be as easy as a lot of people think, not entirely from a technical and quality control point of view, but rather for legal reasons.

A mod that is made by members of a community in their spare time and for no profit is okay-ish (it could face challenges, but it's in a bit of a grey area and chances are it flies under the radar), but a simulation of an aircraft that is included in a commercial simulator - in other words: somebody (ED) aims to turn a profit with it - does need a licence or at least a proper permission from the company owning the rights to it.

[FoxAlfa]

I wish they would just add the 3d model with SFM as AI, similar to other models someone doesn't own.

 

That would mean servers can enable it for players who use it, and players who don't, would see the correct 3d model.... I would love to use the A-4 on the BF servers...

[msalama]

Well what Kang said, plus it'd need more work since it'd really need an ASM/PFM. Which, again, would probably raise a question of having to charge for it later...

[QuiGon]

Before ED can decide about that, the devs of the A-4 would have to actually want to make this a true DCS module. I don't know if they want that.

[Silver_Dragon]

Yes, The A-4 devs need formalise has official 3rd party and get licensing. That is not ED work.

[D4n]

Yes, The A-4 devs need formalise has official 3rd party and get licensing. That is not ED work.

I hope "get licensing" isn't that hard.

 

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[Silver_Dragon]

I hope "get licensing" isn't that hard.

 

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No only get licencing by ED, need a licence clearance by the actual aircraft "license owner", that was a problem in the past.

[QuiGon]

I hope "get licensing" isn't that hard.

 

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They need to want one and apply for that in the first place. I'm not sure if they want to.

[D4n]

They need to want one and apply for that in the first place. I'm not sure if they want to.

Can't think of a single reason why sb. wouldn't want to receive a license by ED.

 

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[Kang]

Contracts usually do carry obligations.

[QuiGon]

Can't think of a single reason why sb. wouldn't want to receive a license by ED.

 

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This:

Contracts usually do carry obligations.

[Mars Exulte]

#1 The mod makers themselves said it isn't module ready, and

they don't have the SDK.

 

#2 They said they don't want to.

 

#3 It's not up to 'the community' and is none of their business

 

#4 It is not up to ED.

 

#5 People keep making retarded threads like this even though the developers themselves have shot it down multiple times. Read the mod's OP. Read the numerous posts they've made on this topic. It will not happen.

[D4n]

#1 The mod makers themselves said it isn't module ready, and

they don't have the SDK.

 

#2 They said they don't want to.

 

#3 It's not up to 'the community' and is none of their business

 

#4 It is not up to ED.

 

#5 People keep making retarded threads like this even though the developers themselves have shot it down multiple times. Read the mod's OP. Read the numerous posts they've made on this topic. It will not happen.

 

Did they state a reason for #2 ?

 

#5 nothing about it in mods OP, I just checked it.

 

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[dSAF Dancer]

Did they state a reason for #2 ?

 

#5 nothing about it in mods OP, I just checked it.

 

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Yes, the reason is that with a contract with ed they could get licensing problems from the manufacturer, it is expensive to have this contract with ed and it is even more time consuming than at the moment.

[Harlikwin]

One solution to this is to have it as a popular "mod-pack" that would include a few other things, (Road FARP's, ships, other A/C) or whatever. That way someone would have to D/L one "mega-mod" instead of a bunch of random mods. But then the original dev's would have to agree to have their mod in the mega mod and agree to maintain it.

[Mars Exulte]

Did they state a reason for #2 ?

 

#5 nothing about it in mods OP, I just checked it.

 

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You didn't see the part where they indicated they wanted the mod to be free and had no intent or desire to apply for official status?

 

-edit

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=173162

 

I forgot they 'relaunched' the A-4 thread, sorry. They mention there they're not intending to aim for official status and wanted it to remain free. That's the old/original pre-launch thread.

[Torso]

No only get licencing by ED, need a licence clearance by the actual aircraft "license owner", that was a problem in the past.

 

I think it has been well established by this point that a dev does not 'require' a license from the AC manufacturer to create a module. These are all considered works of art. The only license they need is from ED.

[uboats]

i think including it as AI only could be a good beginning.

[D4n]

i think including it as AI only could be a good beginning.

Yes!!

 

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[HC_Official]

i think including it as AI only could be a good beginning.

 

 

+1 to this great idea sir

[Silver_Dragon]

I think it has been well established by this point that a dev does not 'require' a license from the AC manufacturer to create a module. These are all considered works of art. The only license they need is from ED.

 

Some remember the case of Oleg Maddox vs Northrop Grumman issue by sell a product without a license? Always need a license before talk by ED.