Mizzy Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 The F-5 is one of my very favorite modules, bought it on release but feel as the years roll on, it's just a forgotten by the wayside module and no confirmation if they are to bring it up to spec with other modules. I would gladly pay for it again. Example, no rain droplets (same as L-39 another old module) skins are not up to current spec, cockpit looks really dated, no wing flex, various problems with training missions....etc. Surely if this aircraft was brought up to current levels it would sell as it's an easy aircraft to master. I know that ED work in mysterious way and prone to spring surprises on us so here's hoping :) Mizzy
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 11, 2020 ED Team Posted April 11, 2020 The F-5E is not neglected, but it is an older module. I have opened reports for various F-5E issues including the rain on the canopy. Wing flex is already in, check out argument 338 in the model viewer, its not as obvious when flying, the wing is smaller than most and pretty ridged. As with many of our older modules we eventually revisit them, A-10C / BS2 as examples, so maybe one day, just can not say for sure yet. thanks Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
razo+r Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 Rain droplets, broke radar grid and some other cosmetic issues could be ironed out in a few minutes work though. Shame nobody had those few minutes yet...
randomTOTEN Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the F-5E was the very first fixed wing aircraft in DCS to model wing flex?
Bailey Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the F-5E was the very first fixed wing aircraft in DCS to model wing flex? I believe so. ~Bailey DCS VoiceAttack Profiles | My Mods and Utilities on ED User Files | DiCE: DCS Integrated Countermeasure Editor DCS Update Witching Utility | DCS-ExportScripts for Stream Deck Community Github Library | Kiowa Integrated Overlays
Rudel_chw Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 Rain droplets, broke radar grid and some other cosmetic issues could be ironed out in a few minutes work .. :doh: I'm speechless For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
Rick50 Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 Rain droplets, broke radar grid and some other cosmetic issues could be ironed out in a few minutes work though. Shame nobody had those few minutes yet... Ah well feel free to iron them out and show us how, give us your coding and we can get this done ASAP! :music_whistling:
some1 Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 Actually, the F5 had its cockpit textures updated to PBR a few months ago, and also fixed some other issues like cockpit shadows. There are still some problems with textures reflectiveness and radar display though. Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil WarBRD, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro
razo+r Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 Ah well feel free to iron them out and show us how, give us your coding and we can get this done ASAP! :music_whistling: For rain droplets: They have to add a bump file to the material in 3ds and re-export it. Done. I cannot, since I don't have the file For radar grid, there would be already textures on the user file section. Other issues such as external model as part of the cockpit model: Simply delete the faces, re-export and done. Just because I write about it doesn't mean I don't know anything about it. :doh: I'm speechless Note that I'm talking about cosmetic stuff.
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 11, 2020 ED Team Posted April 11, 2020 As mentioned we do have issues reported. The team needs to find the time, at the moment things are very busy as you can imagine with the hornet and viper. Thanks Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
bkthunder Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 The big FM errors make it pretty hard to accept the F-5 is not being neglected. Unless they've been there from the start and nobody ever noticed them (which I'm not sure would be better). I wish fundamental game-breaking bugs were dealt with quickly, no matter how old the module is, and actually the older it is the quicker you should fix it, since it is supposedly a fully released product that is supposed to be kept in a fully usable and enjoyable state at all times. Yes, I do consider the fundamental FM calculation errors to be game-breaking in a flight simulator...FM is pretty important. I hope ED fixes the big ones soon, at least. Windows 10 - Intel i7 7700K 4.2 Ghz (no OC) - Asus Strix GTX 1080 8Gb - 16GB DDR4 (3000 MHz) - SSD 500GB + WD Black FZEX 1TB 6Gb/s
Kev2go Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 (edited) ever since 2.5 hit, the Radar scopes been busted. you can't see the radar grid lines, just dots where the lines intersected. Yea even outside of any HD cockpit or 3d model retexture, this module still needs support to fix the broken stuff from the various things users have mentioned here. Edited April 11, 2020 by Kev2go Build: Windows 10 64 bit Pro Case/Tower: Corsair Graphite 760tm ,Asus Strix Z790 Motherboard, Intel Core i7 12700k ,Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 64gb ram (3600 mhz) , (Asus strix oc edition) Nvidia RTX 3080 12gb , Evga g2 850 watt psu, Hardrives ; Samsung 970 EVo, , Samsung evo 860 pro 1 TB SSD, Samsung evo 850 pro 1TB SSD, WD 1TB HDD
randomTOTEN Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 So should I install the Radar Fix mod, or the entire Cockpit Recovery mod? I have a mod for the L-39 that fixes it from displaying western calibrated gauges when using imperial map units. It's two backslashes in a .lua file. Older modules just have stuff that breaks eventually, or else was never implemented well... and needs user mods to fix. That's just a common theme for nearly every module. A lot of modules need fixes and further support (not just the F5), but at the same time those don't bring in money... but new users won't spend money if they judge the product to be low quality. I can understand that it's a balancing act on the part of ED. I just hope a decision is made on how much effort to spend on maintenance, despite the need to develop new modules... oh yeah and improve the core simulation product :) ... you guys are certainly busy!
Schmidtfire Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 Does not matter if it is an old module, it is still being sold in the store today. 100+ on staff and no one can spend a few hours getting this module back on track? Same with Hornet or Viper, why only have a small team to update your two biggest products? Dragging EA out for 3+ years instead of being done within months. I guess it is good from a financial point but it is a disaster for us who spend our money on your products. Maybe Im slow or dumb, but I cannot understand why things cannot be ironed out at a faster pace. I cannot fully enjoy my F-5E and Im supposed to wait cause it might be revisited in the future? Only being worked on if there might be a chance to sell additional DLC update like Ka-50 or A-10C? Beyond dissapointed at these type of shenaningans :mad:
David OC Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 Manly because DCS is trying to walk forward and update, at the same time transform old coded sections to new. Some possibly not commented and people have left. It's a very hard place to be at trying to slowly transform an old sim to new, while keeping all the old stuff functioning properly each build. It reminds me of the 3rd gen blockchain I follow and the CEO of IOHK input output hong kong. Charles Hoskinson (mathematician) They decided to rewrite from the ground up (6 Years) and coped a lot for doing that, because the speculators want it out now to make $. It will now be one of the most advanced tho. This was one of his latest video's. Love this guy, can talk on vid's for hours lol. i7-7700K OC @ 5Ghz | ASUS IX Hero MB | ASUS GTX 1080 Ti STRIX | 32GB Corsair 3000Mhz | Corsair H100i V2 Radiator | Samsung 960 EVO M.2 NVMe 500G SSD | Samsung 850 EVO 500G SSD | Corsair HX850i Platinum 850W | Oculus Rift | ASUS PG278Q 27-inch, 2560 x 1440, G-SYNC, 144Hz, 1ms | VKB Gunfighter Pro Chuck's DCS Tutorial Library Download PDF Tutorial guides to help get up to speed with aircraft quickly and also great for taking a good look at the aircraft available for DCS before purchasing. Link
ST0RM Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 Does not matter if it is an old module, it is still being sold in the store today. 100+ on staff and no one can spend a few hours getting this module back on track? Same with Hornet or Viper, why only have a small team to update your two biggest products? Dragging EA out for 3+ years instead of being done within months. I guess it is good from a financial point but it is a disaster for us who spend our money on your products. Maybe Im slow or dumb, but I cannot understand why things cannot be ironed out at a faster pace. I cannot fully enjoy my F-5E and Im supposed to wait cause it might be revisited in the future? Only being worked on if there might be a chance to sell additional DLC update like Ka-50 or A-10C? Beyond dissapointed at these type of shenaningans :mad: You answered your question with that last line. Sell Additional DLC... Neglect something long enough so that when you decide to revisit it, they'll throw money at anything. Seems to be the common thread here. They have an obligation to support their current products so that they function without fail, under the current version. As has been stated with examples, the F-5 has not been properly maintained since its release. I'd wager it'll eventually get a makeover, but at a price. Despite the fact its had known broken areas and faults for a long time. Absorbing BST was one of the worst deals for us, the customer.
Count von Altibar Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 A fantastic aircraft and a great starter jet for anyone getting into DCS. I have flown more hours in the F5 than any other module so there's something really great about it I keep going back to it, would be the right thing to do giving it a makeover just like the A10-C. Had a relatively new person to DCS asking me about it but saying it looks a bit dated. Fix the bugs, update the looks and you'll get sales again with this excellent module.
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