Better Trees for Caucasus V6

[zildac]

Worked fine for me when I last tried.

[PhilTheBeat]

Okay. Because when i tried to activate it with JSME knowing that "Caucasus Redone" is already activated i have a WARNING message :

 

"ForestSubctrateAutumn.zip" has already been altered by the "Caucasus Redone 2020 v1 by Barthek" mod.
"ForestSubctrateSpring.zip" has already been altered by the "Caucasus Redone 2020 v1 by Barthek" mod.
"ForestSubctrateSummer.zip" has already been altered by the "Caucasus Redone 2020 v1 by Barthek" mod.
"ForestSubctrateWinter.zip" has already been altered by the "Caucasus Redone 2020 v1 by Barthek" mod.
"Trees7Autumn.zip" has already been altered by the "Caucasus Redone 2020 v1 by Barthek" mod.
"Trees7Spring.zip" has already been altered by the "Caucasus Redone 2020 v1 by Barthek" mod.
"Trees7Summer.zip" has already been altered by the "Caucasus Redone 2020 v1 by Barthek" mod.
"Trees7Winter.min.zip" has already been altered by the "Caucasus Redone 2020 v1 by Barthek" mod."

 

[zildac]

The mod will replace a number of files also modified by the terrain mod. It won't cause any functional issues.

[Madone]

@PhilTheBeat as per first post :

"If you have Terrain mod such as CGTC, Barthek's, Mustang's, Starway's.... there will be conflict. Just install this mod last and overwrite. This mod will only replace trees and substrate."

 

So no issue there, you'll benefit from the trees if you enable it after.

[Taz1004]

As the Stable has just been updated to 2.5.6.59625 (12-25-2020), I removed v4 download links.

If you were on Stable and used v4 before, you need to switch to v5.

[Sr.]

Dang man... nice work!

Edited December 27, 2020 by Sr.

[Taz1004]

On 12/13/2020 at 8:44 AM, Boosterdog said:

What i wondered however is does each tree have its own command in terms of shadow use and could it be turned off for just one item? Where Im going with is that the shrubs clearly push up the demand on the cpu/gpu a lot with default shadows turned on but are largely used under the canopy of larger trees. They do a nice job in covering an otherwise too light surface but possibly dont really need their own shadows to give a decent effect in such circumstances.

 

Any insight or even a straight "er....no" would be welcome.

 

For some reason I'm not getting notification on threads I made before forum update so I missed this.

 

Answer is no.  Not without editing the source.  Well... at least not that I'm aware of.

 

 

1 hour ago, Sr. said:

Dang man... nice work!

 

 

Thanks.  That's a nice shot.

Edited December 27, 2020 by Taz1004

[Sr.]

On 8/3/2020 at 9:28 AM, Taz1004 said:

 

They're simply texture swap. In many cases reduced in size as I mentioned so it should be more efficient. My Summer texture pack for example is 9 MB. Default is 35 MB. Most of these reduction comes from reducing normal maps and barks which should not effect visual quality.

Trees are instanced so saving little bit of texture memory wouldn't yield great performance boost but it can't be worse. I haven't done any benchmark but my in game frame rate hasn't changed.

 

I don't even know why these have normal maps. Even billboards. Just default Speed Tree setting they kept. I would get rid of them if I can but I can't.

 

These look a lot better in VR than in the screenshots in my opinion. I'm having a lot of fun flying over them.

 

 

Pretty sure I've gotten a performance bump. I used to run trees settings really low and get 45fps. After enabling this mod I moved trees to 100% and still maintain 45fps with high texture settings.

[PhilTheBeat]

7 hours ago, Madone said:

@PhilTheBeat as per first post :

"If you have Terrain mod such as CGTC, Barthek's, Mustang's, Starway's.... there will be conflict. Just install this mod last and overwrite. This mod will only replace trees and substrate."

 

So no issue there, you'll benefit from the trees if you enable it after.

 

Thanks....

[PhilTheBeat]

Okay so sfter being applying the rule : "If you have Terrain mod such as CGTC, Barthek's, Mustang's, Starway's.... there will be conflict. Just install this mod last and overwrite. This mod will only replace trees and substrate."Just install this mod last and overwrite. This mod will only replace trees and substrate."

 

I have installed Normandy & Caucasus Redone first

 

 

 

 

But if i try to install this pack last , i keep having the WARNING MESSAGE:

 

 

 

 

And if i click on YES , "Caucasus Redone" folder appears in grey color:

 

 

 

 

In advance thank you for your help to understand

 

 

[Taz1004]

21 minutes ago, PhilTheBeat said:

Okay so sfter being applying the rule : "If you have Terrain mod such as CGTC, Barthek's, Mustang's, Starway's.... there will be conflict. Just install this mod last and overwrite. This mod will only replace trees and substrate."Just install this mod last and overwrite. This mod will only replace trees and substrate."

 

I have installed Normandy & Caucasus Redone first

 

 

 

 

But if i try to install this pack last , i keep having the WARNING MESSAGE:

 

 

 

 

And if i click on YES , "Caucasus Redone" folder appears in grey color:

 

 

 

 

In advance thank you for your help to understand

 

 

 

I don't use that mod manager so I'm not sure but that probably means it's installed with conflict.  And can be ignored.

If you don't want to see that error, delete those conflicting zip files from Barthek's mod.

[PhilTheBeat]

29 minutes ago, Taz1004 said:

 

I don't use that mod manager so I'm not sure but that probably means it's installed with conflict.  And can be ignored.

If you don't want to see that error, delete those conflicting zip files from Barthek's mod.

 

Thank you it works

[Morpheus]

You can merge the two mods before installation as I do like this no conflict.

Tu peux fusionner les deux mods avant installation comme je l'ai fait comme ça pas de conflit 

Edited December 27, 2020 by Morpheus

[HILOK]

hi, merry x-mas and thanks a lot for doing this!

just noticed NoiseWinter and NoiseWinter.min are not packed in your mod directory, but the orignial files in DCS are. does that matter?

 

thanks

[Taz1004]

9 minutes ago, HILOK said:

hi, merry x-mas and thanks a lot for doing this!

just noticed NoiseWinter and NoiseWinter.min are not packed in your mod directory, but the orignial files in DCS are. does that matter?

 

thanks

 

Yes that's done on purpose.  They need to be in separate folder.

[HILOK]

45 minutes ago, Taz1004 said:

 

Yes that's done on purpose.  They need to be in separate folder.

good to know, thanks for the quick reply!

[Sr.]

oooh...I think I like dark better

[dorianR666]

someone probably pointer that out.... but the image in OP is missing one T in "better"

i had to

[Ala12Rv-watermanpc]

Great mod!! , would it be possible to do something like this for the Siria map?, specially the "low" version to gain some performance.

 

Thanks!

[Taz1004]

9 hours ago, Ala12Rv-watermanpc said:

Great mod!! , would it be possible to do something like this for the Siria map?, specially the "low" version to gain some performance.

 

Thanks!

 

Syria may be heavy in content but Ugra did very good job optimizing textures.  Syria vfsTextures is only 1.8GB compared to Caucasus 4GB.  They don't have any 32bit normal maps or oversized bark textures like ED.

[Ala12Rv-watermanpc]

14 hours ago, Taz1004 said:

 

Syria may be heavy in content but Ugra did very good job optimizing textures.  Syria vfsTextures is only 1.8GB compared to Caucasus 4GB.  They don't have any 32bit normal maps or oversized bark textures like ED.

 

Thanks for the info, and for the great mod!!

[James Spartan]

Thanks for this mod, trees now look great !

[Docsnuggles]

As I often fly A2G missions or in a chopper I simply love your work. Thanks a lot! @Taz1004

[Mistermann]

Better Trees, Better Smoke, Better Labels (VR), are all must haves for me.  @Taz1004, thank you!

[Cheap_Trick]

On 8/3/2020 at 1:53 PM, Taz1004 said:

 

I originally had it darker as all the references I found them to be dark. But I knocked it back down because I think people are used to faded default trees. Myself included.

 

I, for one, am very grateful for your tree mod.  This is how the world looks to me when Im above it all.  The ground is a drab lettuce but in my world, we have alot of evergreen- spruce, pine, cedar and this is just what DCS needs.  Not to forget that landscape doesn't need to be high definition is the jet world.  So file size is very important.  The smaller the file size, the less work any GPU/CPU has to do to display the effect.  I do wish programmers would understand this basic of principles.  No- they'd rather put 10 gigs of earth in one zip file or 20 zip files...there are simply better ways of doing things.   

Brings me to mind the ReShade.   I get a 40% boost in framerate using ReShade....so Why in God's name can't any sim developer grasp the ReShade concept of clean, smoothe display operations? 

 

Why I ask?