reported High consumption of RAM memory

[Jara4]

On 2/1/2021 at 11:49 PM, statrekmike said:

Can we get a official word on this issue? The Syria map's performance doesn't really match up with the rest of DCS's maps and while I can appreciate that it has more details, I also can't help but feel that it really should run better. Has there been any significant progress in this department internally? 

+1

Are there any DEVs reading this topic? I think we are screaming to deaf ears.

Edited February 20, 2021 by Jara4

[ArjenHVA]

2 hours ago, Jara4 said:

+1

Are there any DEVs reading this topic? I think we are screaming to deaf ears.

 

No. Stolen from another topic: "Urgra is a small team and are not English speakers" as per BN. So you'll have to ping ED to convey the message as they monitor it for them. Improvements expected with the release of 2.7 also.

[Coxy_99]

I to believe there is a leak in this map its ok for about 10 mins then goes to pot.

[Jara4]

On 2/21/2021 at 4:02 PM, Coxy_99 said:

I to believe there is a leak in this map its ok for about 10 mins then goes to pot.

+1 The same expreience: 10 to 20 minutes and slideshow begins.

[uist1]

I’ve noticed a huge difference on this map compared to PG and Caucasus. When I fly on this map my 32gb of ram is maxed out and so is my 1tb SSD. Still playable but not 100% smooth. When I fly on the other 2 maps I mentioned, my ram usage is halved and I’m using a fraction of my SSD. When will this map be tweaked for better performance?

[KoN]

None playable uninstalled . Shame looks good . 

[SignorMagnifico]

Flew a mission on multiplayer server today running 2.7.6.13436. I have 32GB of RAM, and the mission loaded with 95% of my RAM being used. I'm going to try reducing the preload radius to see if it helps, but it appears that only the Syria map has this problem with excessive RAM usage. I don't get near this amount of RAM usage on the other maps.

[SignorMagnifico]

On 10/1/2021 at 11:36 PM, SignorMagnifico said:

Flew a mission on multiplayer server today running 2.7.6.13436. I have 32GB of RAM, and the mission loaded with 95% of my RAM being used. I'm going to try reducing the preload radius to see if it helps, but it appears that only the Syria map has this problem with excessive RAM usage. I don't get near this amount of RAM usage on the other maps.

Still getting 99% usage with preload radius set below 50%. Only happens on the Syria map.

[Auger]

Glad I found this thread. Was planning on buying the Syria map during the next sale. Think I'll hold off for now.

[erick]

I would really love to use this map but because of the memory consumption, I just can't!!!

Maxes out my 16gb and I get crashes if I spend too long in the ME setting up missions here. I just stopped using it. I check in here periodically to see if there is an update or fix but I never seem to see any new info!! 

Does anyone know what's going on with this map? Its the only one that gives me trouble.

I don't own the Channel Map, but I own all the others and they all work great!! 

Any update or insights would be much appreciated!!! thx

[sirrah]

12 hours ago, erick said:

I would really love to use this map but because of the memory consumption, I just can't!!!

Maxes out my 16gb and I get crashes if I spend too long in the ME setting up missions here. I just stopped using it. I check in here periodically to see if there is an update or fix but I never seem to see any new info!! 

Does anyone know what's going on with this map? Its the only one that gives me trouble.

I don't own the Channel Map, but I own all the others and they all work great!! 

Any update or insights would be much appreciated!!! thx

 

I feel and share your frustration. The main trouble is that Ugra is a tiny team.

Imho, considering the total lack of updates/bug fixes and communication, ED should be more strict in restrictions and expectations towards 3rd party devs, to insure proper DLC product support.

 

Don't get me wrong, I love the Syria map and even dare to say it's my favorite DCS map. Also I'm sure Ugra is doing its very best, but yeah... Take for instance this very crucial bug.. It was first reported August 2019!

 

Every open beta update I'm scrolling through the patch notes searching for Syria updates, but unfortunately 9/10 times I get disappointed. @BIGNEWY: Perhaps you could share a bit more than the general "we can share news as soon as there is something to share"?

[BIGNEWY]

12 minutes ago, sirrah said:

Every open beta update I'm scrolling through the patch notes searching for Syria updates, but unfortunately 9/10 times I get disappointed. @BIGNEWY: Perhaps you could share a bit more than the general "we can share news as soon as there is something to share"?

 I can bump reports internally, pass on feedback, but if there is no news to share I have two choices, tell you I have nothing to share currently or be silent. It seems I can not win

Personally I am not seeing any issue currently but my system is a high end one. 

[sirrah]

18 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

 I can bump reports internally, pass on feedback, but if there is no news to share I have two choices, tell you I have nothing to share currently or be silent. It seems I can not win

Personally I am not seeing any issue currently but my system is a high end one. 

Although I do understand the position you are in, for an issue as pressing as this one, an occasional "Ugra is still looking into this, but the problem turned out very complex. We're sorry for the inconvenience and we're doing everything possible to solve this issue a.s.a.p." would be more satisfying then utter silence. 

I know you guys are very busy and please realize that my (our) concerns originate out of pure love for this great sim, but well.. if I'm not mistaking, the last official feedback that was shared by @NineLine on this problem dates 14 months ago. We are just very curious about progression.

[Jara4]

15 months... 

[Steel Jaw]

Well, the map looks nice but its performance is poor.  Too bad, as I was thinking of a new Hornet campaign for this map released today, but I think not.

Edited March 31, 2022 by Steel Jaw

[KoN]

Apache and Syria map 

F16 and Syria map 

Hind and Syria map  

But Syria map broken for 70 -80% of people with 8gb VRAM . 

Only high end computers have no issues . 

When Is this map going to get a fix . 

[anatolianwolf]

Low FPS High ram usage.. What can we do for fly smoot in this map? I dont wanna fly like a tetris graphics.. Optimization is really weird I think and they have to fix it.

Edited April 4, 2022 by anatolianwolf

[dg6546]

After the hot fix it is unplayable now. I have got 32GBs of RAM, whenever I load into syria map it will consume all 32GBs of ram from my computer and started stuttering.

[KoN]

Did some testing today .

Turn all shadows off .

Texture to Medium

Ground texture too Low .

No MSAA .

No Anti AA .

NVIDIA AA x 2 and X8 enhanced .

use FXAA - on

Smooth game play on Rotorheads server .

But looks awful .

MAP loads with all VRAM used no matter what settings .

If have over 8GB Vram then happy smooth play .

MAP needs a  fix . Some thing not right . ?

All maps I use 16GB of ram .

This 32GB or 28GB .

On 4/4/2022 at 5:44 PM, dg6546 said:

After the hot fix it is unplayable now. I have got 32GBs of RAM, whenever I load into syria map it will consume all 32GBs of ram from my computer and started stuttering.

Was there a HOT fix . ? for this map .

On 10/19/2021 at 11:40 AM, BIGNEWY said:

 I can bump reports internally, pass on feedback, but if there is no news to share I have two choices, tell you I have nothing to share currently or be silent. It seems I can not win

Personally I am not seeing any issue currently but my system is a high end one. 

Of course your not seeing any issues . I think you have a 3090 . lol Yes .

Edited June 11, 2022 by KoN

[Mr_sukebe]

A couple of thoughts:

 - DCS will seemingly always "allocate" VRAM when available.  That's NOT the same as actually using it.  As I'm unaware of how we could measure it, frankly it doesn't matter

 - The Syria map does use a lot of RAM.  Had you consider that it's a GOOD thing.  After all, if DCS has loaded lots of the textures into RAM, then it's not going off to your SSD or HDD to pull those files, so it should actually be faster (assuming that you have a system with a lot of RAM)

 

Bear in mind how much we pay for GPUs, HOTAS and DCS modules, just stick some additional RAM in.

[Mik75]

Hi there!

I just bought the Syria map, and I absolutely love it. I've got 32GB RAM, and so far, I've only created simple SP missions in the F/A-18 and F-16. FPS are really good (not too different from the performance I get in the Persian Gulf), but I just recognised, that upon initial load, the memory usage reaches 99%. After a few moments, it eventually settles at around 70% (swapping files to the Page File?). Is that a normal behaviour? 

[ArjenHVA]

25 minutes ago, Mik75 said:

Hi there!

I just bought the Syria map, and I absolutely love it. I've got 32GB RAM, and so far, I've only created simple SP missions in the F/A-18 and F-16. FPS are really good (not too different from the performance I get in the Persian Gulf), but I just recognised, that upon initial load, the memory usage reaches 99%. After a few moments, it eventually settles at around 70% (swapping files to the Page File?). Is that a normal behaviour? 

Simple answer, yes. Discussed in great lengths on this subforum.

https://forum.dcs.world/search/?q=RAM&quick=1&type=forums_topic&nodes=342

[twistking]

Hi, quick question. Has anyone experience with Syria on a 16GB system?
I tested the map on my system two (?) years ago at the pandemic free to play event and it was fine for doing a sightseeing flight but for anything more it struggled with ram.
Has there been optimizations since then? I would not expect "proper" missions to run well, but very light mission with a handful of aircraft would be nice.
Any experience anyone?

Thanks.

[rcjonessnp175]

nope i have 64gb and still run textures for apache and hind at medium with 64gb i can get away with terrain textures at high, with 32 was a no go in vr

 

[Minsky]

11 hours ago, twistking said:

Has there been optimizations since then?

It's hard to say if they hadn't optimized it at all, or the newly added locations outweighed all their optimization efforts.

To me it runs about the same on 32Gb now as it ran on 16Gb pre-Cyprus (i.e. barely).

I honestly cannot imagine using the current version with 16Gb.