Hornet vs Viper

[Cepheus76]

I just voted Hornet, simply because it was the only one available module which interested me (yeah, because of carrier ops) when I made the decision to buy my first high fidelity module.

 

However, I start to feel to be drawn towards the Viper, simply because there is so much more documentation available on how to fly and fight this aircraft, e.g. doghouse-charts etc. Another thing which I find intriguing is that I could fly ILS approaches with the Viper, something I would much rather do than a self-knitted RNAV approach when returning to base at night or in inclement weather.

[QuiGon]

where A-10C is closer to Navy

How so? :huh:

 

I always felt the A-10C is closer to the Air Force designwise, as it does things the air force way (e.g. A-A missile launch through the weapon release button instead of the trigger as the navy does).

[Knock-Knock]

Despite being a huge F-16 fan since almost forever, here in DCS having flown both, I prefer the Hornet on the stick. Dont like how the F-16 feels, that large low sensitivity zone around the center, that isnt even identical on both axis. Really didnt like how that felt, and I tried for a month (free month) to curve it and not, and just couldnt get used to it.

Had it been more linear on both axis, then I might have picked the 16.

[Teleblaster]

I’m also a huge Viper fan from way back. I think it’s still the sexiest fighter ever, and that big bubble canopy is hard to beat. However, since the Hornet was released first, I spent a lot of time flying it before the Viper was released, and it has really captured my heart, at least in its current state vs. the Viper’s current state. That may change once both are completed, and tbh I haven’t spent much time in the Viper since I pretty much decided to wait until it was closer to completion. But right now, I like the bigger displays in the Hornet, and the superior nose authority is a lot of fun in a dogfight. I just wish it had the acceleration of the Viper, and that beautiful canopy.

Edited September 16, 2020 by Teleblaster

[Andartu]

Loved the Hornet since I was little. It always was to me what the Tomcat is for others (yeah sorry, not hard feelings please :D )

 

I like the Viper, but nevertheless.. Hornet!

[Mars Exulte]

I found the handling in the Viper feels really strange to me. I really like the plane, but the FCS in the Viper just feels weird to me. The F-18 feels better, imo, and it being center stick like my homepit probably helps a bit, too.

[BuzzU]

A lot of interesting answers. To be honest, i'm surprised to see the Hornet in the lead.

 

Keep it up if you haven't voted.

 

Thanks guys.

[Fri13]

How so? :huh:

 

I always felt the A-10C is closer to the Air Force designwise, as it does things the air force way (e.g. A-A missile launch through the weapon release button instead of the trigger as the navy does).

 

It is just something about the design, the layout, control functions etc.

But I believe it is about F-16 never been designed to be upgradable as it has been done, its designers have told that it was purposely made so small and tight that you simply can't upgrade it. And that limitation likely is the reason for its design and layouts that are heavily restricting it to be so much different from other aircrafts like Hornet, Harrier, Warthog etc.

[Fri13]

The F-18 feels better, imo, and it being center stick like my homepit probably helps a bit, too.

 

Ain't it odd how the joystick position helps to adapt to given airframe? I use to have a easily movable joystick position from side to center (planning to make it back to such again). And it made huge difference to fly F-16 when you had joystick at the side. But as I lately have been mainly flown helicopters, trainers etc (old school) I have not had will to complete the VR flight chair design.

 

Edit: Forgot to add a tip. If someone wants to make a super sturdy and super simple way to move a joystick, throttle or basically any attachment quickly around, use Arca Swiss quick release plates from the photography market. The Really Right Stuff (RRS) is the original designer and manufacturer, but luckily they didn't never patent the design/system. So they allowed it to become de-facto system. And differences are that for RRS system one pays easily hundreds, when a after-market cheaper (and yet excellent and compatible) chinese variants costs around ten.

The camera equipments are designed to withhold from a few kilograms to tens of kilograms weights and are required to hold up all the equipment completely steady (long exposures and all), in all kind weather conditions and so on.

So one can build up with a couple pieces a completely sturdy quick clamp system where example it takes few seconds to move a joystick from center mount to side mount. You literally just loosen one clamp with couple knob rotations and move it to another clam and tighten there. Build a few extension blocks with these attachments and you can have your center mounted joystick right between legs, and quickly move it to side, even when wearing VR and while you are jumping from Hornet to Falcon.

Edited September 15, 2020 by Fri13
Added a tip.

[yoshama]

I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for the Hornet. I think it's beautiful and capable. I voted Viper because after flying the Viper the Hornet feels like a pig. The viper is just more capable. I love the option for carrier ops, and any time that I can use carrier ops I will always enjoy flying the Hornet. Once im in the air tho, the hornet just feels like a lazy viper that's over weight and slow. In the air the Viper can just do more. When I started using the Hornet in missions to be a budget F16 for the features alone until the F16 is up to spec, I realized I liked the viper more.

[ebabil]

for the look= viper

everytihng else= hornet

[Dav IRL]

I just can’t vote on this as the viper has some way to go where the hornet is feature rich. I love the bubble cockpit in the viper and the single throttle with one massive engine but I also love the size of the hornet, it’s carrier capabilities. I prefer the flight control of the hornet but then the viper is a monster and when it comes to speed. Aggghhhhhh

 

 

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[Dannyvandelft]

Viper. She's beautiful while the (super)Hornet is an ugly turd that got shoved down the Navy's throat by Cheney's bureaucratic bullshit and killed the (super)Tomcat.

 

Viper and Tomcat are the only 2 modules you need to cover everything (when the Viper is closer to completion)

 

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Edited September 15, 2020 by Dannyvandelft

[BuzzU]

I just can’t vote on this as the viper has some way to go where the hornet is feature rich. I love the bubble cockpit in the viper and the single throttle with one massive engine but I also love the size of the hornet, it’s carrier capabilities. I prefer the flight control of the hornet but then the viper is a monster and when it comes to speed. Aggghhhhhh

 

 

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You didn't read my first post.

[Outlaw24]

Hornet, carrier landings, and I just like two engines.

[Bob_Bushman]

Hornet, carrier landings, and I just like two engines.

 

Why? You are just twice as likely to have an engine failure with two engines.:megalol:

 

I bought both.

[Dav IRL]

You didn't read my first post.

 

 

Don’t take it too seriously but to be fair and stick to the thread I would pick the hornet

 

 

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[Steel Jaw]

Ya know, this sounds like a question for...

 

...Mondays With Mover!

 

 

You misspelled my name, bro.:megalol:

[dawgie79]

I chose the Hornet because of Supercarrier, but in fact I like both. For example, with regard to feeling of flight I like the Hornet more, but I like the workflow, and cockpit from the Viper more. So, really can't choose although I did. :D

[WytchCrypt]

Hornet. I'm a Blue Angels and Naval Ops fanatic so the choice is easy :smilewink:

[S. Low]

I have the hornet and loved it but I got bored because it felt very sterile. Like DCS doesn't do a good job of making you feel like you're in the cockpit. I'm not sure. I want the F-16 now. I can't answer this properly lol.

[Syndrome]

Viper doesn't feel nearly as agile and responsive as the Hornet, so I'd have to say Hornet. Otherwise it would be the Viper hands down.

[jmarso]

Hornet. Viper. Pff.

[Baco]

Honestly can´t decide.

 

Love the Vipers super agility, but It cant but can´t do Carrier Ops...

 

The hornet is an ugly SOB that replaced the A-6 Intruder AND the F-14 Tomcat... but it lands on a carrier...

[Mars Exulte]

@fri13

 

I can move my stick easy enough, I might try it then and see if it makes it feel any different.