Dannyvandelft Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 3 Vipers got hit, all 3 Vipers leaked fuel, and none had vapor trails behind them. 2 Vipers didn't even know they were shot. No impacts heard or felt, nothing. Don't have a track. Was a user made mission on Persian Gulf. Were shot by a Rapier site. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted February 7, 2022 ED Team Share Posted February 7, 2022 without a track replay its going to be impossible to check. But we will keep an eye out for it. thanks Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESA_v1T1 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) Hello, This happened to me yesterday, when I was hit by a shilka with a few hits and no damage declared. From 9700 pounds, I entered Bingo Fuel in a few seconds. Greetings (sorry, no track..) Edited March 17, 2022 by ESA_v1T1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconzx Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 confirmed by experiences of mine and of my squadron, fuel leaks seems has been implemented recently but no vfx associated to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobaltUK Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Several occasions of fuel leaks. No indications on fault panel. Notice too late the fuel needles. Saved the day once having noticed sooner, by then changing the fuel feed knob. Or so it seemed. Windows 7/10 64bit, Intel i7-4770K 3.9GHZ, 32 GB Ram, Gforce GTX 1080Ti, 11GB GDDR5 Valve Index. Force IPD 63 (for the F-16) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCPanda Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Well, the damage model for Viper now is basically is: guaranteed fuel leak once you are hit, no matter where. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stackhouse Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 On 3/17/2022 at 10:17 PM, SCPanda said: Well, the damage model for Viper now is basically is: guaranteed fuel leak once you are hit, no matter where. Not exactly. From spending most of my time in BFM servers there seems to really only be a handful of states but fuel leak isn't guaranteed. 1. rear fuselage hit - guaranteed fuel leak 2. rear stabilator hit - stabilator ripped off (fuel leak not guaranteed) 3. wing hit (heavy damage) - wingtip/half ripped off 4. wing hit (light damage) - Wing damages, will rip at high G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrike88 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Seems the Probability for a fuel leak is really extravagant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted March 25, 2022 ED Team Share Posted March 25, 2022 If anyone has a decent track that is reasonably short we will take a closer look at it. thanks Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrike88 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Has been reported by several users on several threads. Hopefully gets addressed next patch. Or at least the damage variable whatever it is ( If Fuselage damage true = then Fuel leak 100%) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 21, 2022 ED Team Share Posted April 21, 2022 I have asked the team to investigate, but please if you have a short track replay attach it. thanks Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photon Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Can we please please do a temporary fix to the F16 fuel leak issue? Right now, the logic seems to be very very basic, something like: IF fuselage damage (from even some guy with small caliber weapons hitting you pretty much anywhere) THEN leak all fuel out of all fuel tanks rapidly. Doing any kind of strafing runs, low altitude bombing or whatnot is a bit boring when even the tiniest bullet impact means your aircraft will now be out of fuel in a minute or so... If you can't fix it in short time, can't you just remove fuel leak from the game until you can. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted July 5, 2022 ED Team Share Posted July 5, 2022 This is reported, thanks. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted July 5, 2022 ED Team Share Posted July 5, 2022 I have a report open for the team, when I have news to share I will share it. thanks 1 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linx Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 In the last few patches F-16 seems very susceptible to fuel leaks ( no visual effect of fuel leaking) after being hit anywhere by any weapon calibre. Noticeably fuel always leaks at the same rate, the amount of damage does not matter. Is this the intended behavior or a possible bug? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_SteelFalcon_ Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 There‘s a bug reported about leaks, hope it gets fixed soon: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted August 14, 2022 ED Team Share Posted August 14, 2022 Hi all, we do have a small tweak coming in a future patch, however the viper is likely to take a fuel leak when damaged. Hitting the front part of the fuselage creates leakage in F1 fuel tank, centre part - F2 and FWD tanks, aft part - A1 and AFT tanks. Hitting the wing adds leakage to wing tank. Wing tank damage will mean a higher rate of fuel loss, partial damage to fuselage will be a reduced leak, however if a component is totally destroyed leaks will be significant. If you have public information about fuel tanks on our viper that you may think is relevant feel free to PM me. thanks 1 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swartbyron Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) Hi Guys This is not yet a bug report, I'm just trying to find out how many others are experiencing this? Since a few patches back I'm finding that almost every time I take a hit from AAA I lose all my fuel with in 60 seconds. FWD goes first and then AFT. If I don't die instantly or lose a wing, loosing all my fuel seems to be the go to damage result from a AAA hit every time. AAA FuelFlow .trk Edited October 21, 2022 by swartbyron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHOGX5 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 2 hours ago, swartbyron said: Hi Guys This is not yet a bug report, I'm just trying to find out how many others are experiencing this? Since a few patches back I'm finding that almost every time I take a hit from AAA I lose all my fuel with in 60 seconds. FWD goes first and then AFT. If I don't die instantly or lose a wing, loosing all my fuel seems to be the go to damage result from a AAA hit every time. AAA FuelFlow .trk 376.52 kB · 2 downloads Yep, can confirm. The three damage states in the DCS F-16C is dead, severe fuel leak or unscathed. I'm pretty sure this is a known issue to ED. 2 1 -Col. Russ Everts opinion on surface-to-air missiles: "It makes you feel a little better if it's coming for one of your buddies. However, if it's coming for you, it doesn't make you feel too good, but it does rearrange your priorities." DCS Wishlist: MC-130E Combat Talon | F/A-18F Lot 26 | HH-60G Pave Hawk | E-2 Hawkeye/C-2 Greyhound | EA-6A/B Prowler | J-35F2/J Draken | RA-5C Vigilante Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linx Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Yes, it is a known. This is ED's last statement on this issue, take of it what you will. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted October 21, 2022 ED Team Share Posted October 21, 2022 I will add here also - The viper is likely to take a fuel leak when damaged due to the positioning of the fuel tanks. Hitting the front part of the fuselage creates leakage in F1 fuel tank, centre part - F2 and FWD tanks, aft part - A1 and AFT tanks. Hitting the wing adds leakage to wing tank. Wing tank damage will mean a higher rate of fuel loss, partial damage to fuselage will be a reduced leak, however if a component is totally destroyed leaks will be significant. If you have public information about fuel tanks and fuel leaks on our viper that you may think is relevant feel free to PM me. 1 1 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lace Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Full burner, emergency jettison, pitch up and turn for home. See if you can get to FL400 before your tanks are dry and then glide to a dead-stick landing on the EPU. Quite a fun challenge I think. You can get 50-80nm if you are lucky (and with a following wind). Or at least get yourself the right side of FLOT before ejecting. 1 1 Laptop Pilot. Alienware X17, i9 11980HK 5.0GHz, 16GB RTX 3080, 64GB DDR4 3200MHz, NVMe SSD. 2x TM Warthog, Hornet grip, Virpil CM2 & TPR pedals, FSSB-R3, Cougar throttle, Viper pit WIP (XBox360 when traveling). Rift S. NTTR, SoH, Syria, Sinai, Channel, South Atlantic, CA, Supercarrier, FC3, A-10CII, F-5, F-14, F-15E, F-16, F/A-18, F-86, Harrier, M2000, F1, Viggen, MiG-21, Yak-52, L-39, MB-339, CE2, Gazelle, Ka-50, Mi-8, Mi-24, Huey, Apache, Spitfire, Mossie. Wishlist: Tornado, Jaguar, Buccaneer, F-117 and F-111. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linx Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, BIGNEWY said: I will add here also - The viper is likely to take a fuel leak when damaged due to the positioning of the fuel tanks. Hitting the front part of the fuselage creates leakage in F1 fuel tank, centre part - F2 and FWD tanks, aft part - A1 and AFT tanks. Hitting the wing adds leakage to wing tank. Wing tank damage will mean a higher rate of fuel loss, partial damage to fuselage will be a reduced leak, however if a component is totally destroyed leaks will be significant. If you have public information about fuel tanks and fuel leaks on our viper that you may think is relevant feel free to PM me. Is the current state of the Viper damage modelling final? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swartbyron Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) Thanks for the replys guys. I would imagine punctured and damaged fuel tanks and lines to be extremely likely when taking AAA rounds. To me the fuel loss just seems extremely fast for a few holes? Losing all 7100Lbs in 1:40 seconds every time seems a bit extreme if you still have both your wings and tail on. If this is feasibly true to real life Ill happily accept it but if not I hope it gets adjusted soon. Edited October 21, 2022 by swartbyron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted October 21, 2022 ED Team Share Posted October 21, 2022 59 minutes ago, Linx said: Is the current state of the Viper damage modelling final? We still have some failures to complete, on the todo list. 2 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, HP Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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