AH-64D VR

[Chaos_Out]

Just did a little flying around and was very smooth.  For those that say they're getting low fps or stutters, if you've only tuned your VR for aircrafts like the f-16/18 types, you're gonna have to dial your settings down a bit.  I noticed when I was tuning mine, that the 16/18 were great, but the A-10C2 cockpit was stuttering a lot, so I dialed everything down until the A-10C2 was also smooth, hence why my VR transition to the Apache was probably smooth.  Now if I can overcome being overwhelmed with trying to map the controls of this thing I might be able to have some more fun!

[Wychmaster]

Am 18.3.2022 um 12:00 schrieb Hiob:

I would appreciate to take a look at your settings. Thank you!

Sorry that it took so long. I use "per application settings" for DCS. Below are all the settings for steamvr. 

[Hiob]

@Wychmaster Thank you. I will try this settings.

 

I may have found out what caused my troubles. I reduced the fov to 90%. Didn’t cause any trouble back then, but when I reversed it the warping was gone (knock on wood).

Nevertheless. Performance can always be improved! 

[martinistripes]

8 hours ago, Digitalvole said:

 

Ps. Could we have a special option to enable a Royal Marine to be strapped to the wing?

 

Being a former Royal Marines Commando, I had to give a like for this comment!

[Digitalvole]

13 minutes ago, martinistripes said:

Being a former Royal Marines Commando, I had to give a like for this comment!

Respect. If I could I’d give a like to your green beret. 

Ever ridden on the side of an Apache?

 

[dburne]

So far with the Aero I am finding performance with the Apache about the same as I get with the Hornet.

[gman066]

hi, 

completely re-install gave me good FPS,
Test with 8kx, i7, 3060ti, 32G

only cloud ultra, water high, texture high, and everything is in VR settings.

streamVR: pixel density 1.25, default settings 

before: 10-15fps

after clean re-install: 30-35 fps

What might have helped ? 
I had some mods though.

 

 

[davidrbarnette]

Just an update:

Setting textures to medium, visibility range to low, and most importantly, changing the IHADDS rendering from "right eye only" to "both" seems to have solved my FPS issues.

[dburne]

37 minutes ago, gman066 said:

hi, 

completely re-install gave me good FPS,
Test with 8kx, i7, 3060ti, 32G

only cloud ultra, water high, texture high, and everything is in VR settings.

streamVR: pixel density 1.25, default settings 

before: 10-15fps

after clean re-install: 30-35 fps

What might have helped ? 
I had some mods though.

 

 

There is a big clue there...

I never run Mods, and never seem to have any odd performance issues.

[Hoirtel]

24 minutes ago, davidrbarnette said:

Just an update:

Setting textures to medium, visibility range to low, and most importantly, changing the IHADDS rendering from "right eye only" to "both" seems to have solved my FPS issues.

Fps with the flir? I noticed this was a bit laggy when head turning but the actual game seemed fine. Assumed it was a feature....

[Ebphoto]

So far it’s been pretty smooth on my system with a RTX3090 and 128G RAM with a G2 headset. I’ll have to see if the settings posted here make any improvements. I have not tried it online or in a beefy mission. Most of the flying is just small scenarios to get used to it. I do find this helicopter harder to fly than the Hind or Huey. I’m starting to get used to the trim and all but it’s going to take some practice for sure! To me it feels under powered when you have rockets & Hellfire missiles onboard. It could be I’m not used to it but I’m having a heck of a time hovering. Also this whole VRS thing I feel is over done in almost all the helos. in my opinion.

The additions to the Syria map are really nice. It’s nice to have more options to fly from & make missions. I took the F16 up yesterday and flew all over the new areas and they added a heck of a lot! I haven’t tried the Apache on any of the other maps yet but I’m curious if the other maps besides the Marianas gives a boost in performance? Thanks for posting your settings. I’ll give those a go later tonight.

[Maduce]

1 hour ago, davidrbarnette said:

Just an update:

Setting textures to medium, visibility range to low, and most importantly, changing the IHADDS rendering from "right eye only" to "both" seems to have solved my FPS issues.

I wasn't having much of a FPS issue but I tried the above settings and wow its even smoother! I would recommend this to anyone who is having FPS issues this may make a difference.

[paulferris]

6 hours ago, Sl1ck said:

Question for the chaps running G2's and a 3080ti / 3090.

What resolution multipliers / res per eye are you running?

I've had to drop my settings a little with the Apache vs F-16/FA-18/A-10.

sorry, just noticed your reference to G2! For the Oculus users out there, I'm at 1.7 in Oculus tray tool. i7700k (o'clkd), 3080Ti, Rift S - mostly 40fps in the training missions

Edited March 19, 2022 by paulferris

[lefuneste01]

Maybe using some reference scenario may help to understand  what can help to improve fps...I started here : https://forum.dcs.world/topic/295270-vr-fps/?do=findComment&comment=4920431

Currently, it seems (fpsVR) that I'm limited by CPU...

Edited March 20, 2022 by lefuneste01

[Tepnox]

On 3/19/2022 at 4:20 PM, JG27_Arklight said:

No reason to run "Ultra" visibility range if you are flying a helo. Drop that down to med and you'd prob push 60 fps. Lol

 

No need to dial it down. I play in VR and the Rift S is capping at 40 or 80 fps. Generally DCS runs like <profanity> with 80fps because of microstutters and bad frame pacing thanks to the old game engine.

DCS behaves quite different when playing in VR in comparison to 2D. It is what it is. 

[JG27_Arklight]

12 minutes ago, Tepnox said:

No need to dial it down. I play in VR and the Rift S is capping at 40 or 80 fps. Generally DCS runs like <profanity> with 80fps because of microstutters and bad frame pacing thanks to the old game engine.

DCS behaves quite different when playing in VR in comparison to 2D. It is what it is. 

 

There will be a need to dial it down if you ever play in a busy mission/online depending on your other settings. VR will always be more performance intensive vs 2D.

 

Outside of what I said above, the other reason to dial it down is because you will never see the vis at very high settings in a Helo. If you do, you're too high. lol

Edited March 20, 2022 by JG27_Arklight

[atledreier]

I'm having a weird performance issue with my Quest 2

Everything is perfectly fine for a good while, then suddenly it goes to 100% use and the sim just grinds to a halt. 
My temps are fine and stable, and loads make sense, for a while. After changing chopper the CPU goes nuts for a while, then stuff settles down again. 

I have attached logs from my last session, where you see I fly around for a while, then crash and change choppers. That's the first "squiggly" part in the loads, that's my physical cores load. During this period the GPY load (red) is fine, and the sim runs acceptable. Then a period of calm and good performance. I'm on the ground and fiddlign with stuff, setting up systems and suddenly the sim just chokes. That's when the GPU load goes pegged.

Edit:
I also occasionally get the lower third of the display very overexposed at times. I've seen at least one other user report the same issue. Never seen that before in any game or module. Not sure if it's Apache or latest beta, haven't tried any other module than the Apache after the beta.

I don't get what could cause this, any ideas?

i9 9900K@5GHz
3080Ti
32Gb 3600MHz
M.2 SSD

 

Edited March 20, 2022 by atledreier

[Tepnox]

1 hour ago, atledreier said:

I'm having a weird performance issue with my Quest 2

Everything is perfectly fine for a good while, then suddenly it goes to 100% use and the sim just grinds to a halt. 
My temps are fine and stable, and loads make sense, for a while. After changing chopper the CPU goes nuts for a while, then stuff settles down again. 

I have attached logs from my last session, where you see I fly around for a while, then crash and change choppers. That's the first "squiggly" part in the loads, that's my physical cores load. During this period the GPY load (red) is fine, and the sim runs acceptable. Then a period of calm and good performance. I'm on the ground and fiddlign with stuff, setting up systems and suddenly the sim just chokes. That's when the GPU load goes pegged.

Edit:
I also occasionally get the lower third of the display very overexposed at times. I've seen at least one other user report the same issue. Never seen that before in any game or module. Not sure if it's Apache or latest beta, haven't tried any other module than the Apache after the beta.

I don't get what could cause this, any ideas?

i9 9900K@5GHz
3080Ti
32Gb 3600MHz
M.2 SSD

 

 

What map did you fly on?

Because this is exact the same problem I was having exclusively on Syria map with 32 GB. For some reason when the RAM got stuffed nearly full after some time, I was having many fps drops and lags in VR. After switching to 64 GB no more problem. 

Temporary fix on 32 GB RAM for me was to reduce the terrain texture quality to low. For unknown reasons this used 10 GB less RAM.

DCS stays a mystery. 

[Shack]

On 3/18/2022 at 10:54 PM, Sr. said:

Do you have something bound or double bound to VR Spyglass zoom... under UI from the controls page.

That was it !   Thanks ! 

[atledreier]

8 hours ago, Tepnox said:

What map did you fly on?

Because this is exact the same problem I was having exclusively on Syria map with 32 GB. For some reason when the RAM got stuffed nearly full after some time, I was having many fps drops and lags in VR. After switching to 64 GB no more problem. 

Temporary fix on 32 GB RAM for me was to reduce the terrain texture quality to low. For unknown reasons this used 10 GB less RAM.

DCS stays a mystery. 

I fly on Syria, yeah. Checked the logs, my RAM is close to full all the time while flying, but not more so when it chokes. Might still be related though.
I'll look into getting more RAM, if I can find something compatible with the one I have.

Thanks!

[Ebphoto]

I tried the setting recommended here and got very good results. In the training missions in both the Persian Gulf & Syria I was averaging between 36 & 42 FPS and it was butter smooth. So thank you for posting them here. I think having extra RAM onboard helps a lot as well. DCS runs much faster since I upgraded from 64G to 128G DDR4 at 3600. I thought of going to DDR5 but it’s just too expensive right now. Not sure if there’s much of a difference between the two. 
Any way thanks for posting your settings here. I hope it helps others as well.

[Supmua]

For me it's the GPU VRAM that gets saturated, up to 21.5 GB on my 3090 with high textures and terrain textures.

Edited March 21, 2022 by Supmua

[St4rgun]

1 hour ago, Ebphoto said:

In the training missions in both the Persian Gulf & Syria I was averaging between 36 & 42 FPS and it was butter smooth.

All this performance with the fastest available GPU (3090) and ridiculously high amount of RAM (128 GB), and merely 36 & 42 fps average.

PATHETIC.

We NEED the Vulkan + Multicore + VR optimization engine rewrite for decent VR performance, it's now not evitable. It would be nice to have any info on that also...

[lefuneste01]

On 3/20/2022 at 8:27 PM, atledreier said:

I'm having a weird performance issue with my Quest 2

Everything is perfectly fine for a good while, then suddenly it goes to 100% use and the sim just grinds to a halt. 
My temps are fine and stable, and loads make sense, for a while. After changing chopper the CPU goes nuts for a while, then stuff settles down again. 

I have attached logs from my last session, where you see I fly around for a while, then crash and change choppers. That's the first "squiggly" part in the loads, that's my physical cores load. During this period the GPY load (red) is fine, and the sim runs acceptable. Then a period of calm and good performance. I'm on the ground and fiddlign with stuff, setting up systems and suddenly the sim just chokes. That's when the GPU load goes pegged.

Edit:
I also occasionally get the lower third of the display very overexposed at times. I've seen at least one other user report the same issue. Never seen that before in any game or module. Not sure if it's Apache or latest beta, haven't tried any other module than the Apache after the beta.

I don't get what could cause this, any ideas?

i9 9900K@5GHz
3080Ti
32Gb 3600MHz
M.2 SSD

 

You should save a track in this case, so it could be possible to reproduce...

[Sr.]

Man...found out this evening that jumping from pilot to CP/G really sends the GPU frametimes off the charts. They come back a little, not much when switching back to pilot seat.