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It would be a nice change from all the male backseaters/co-pilots and the F-15E with relatively many female WSOs IRL would be a good choice for that :thumbup:

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I don't think the AI WSO will have any dialog.  I think it's going to be very bare bones because you can to 95%+ from the pilot seat.  I'd imagine the main advantage of a WSO in real life is they can split the workload of find their targets and SA.  I can't tell you how many times I've died in a Hornet by an enemy fighter because I was fixated on ground targets and the FLIR pod.

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What's the problem, take your girlfriend, wive, mistress, sister or whatever you have, into your hobby like DCS, and you'll have female pilots and female WSO.

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37 minutes ago, Nahen said:

What's the problem, take your girlfriend, wive, mistress, sister or whatever you have, into your hobby like DCS, and you'll have female pilots and female WSO.

LOL!!!! Right!!!!

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I've asked for a female and black pilot models like 5 years ago 🙂

Still no progress by ED. Maybe RAZBAM will do it... I guess there are female or black pilots in the sim community... 

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11 hours ago, nickos86 said:

I've asked for a female and black pilot models like 5 years ago 🙂

Still no progress by ED. Maybe RAZBAM will do it... I guess there are female or black pilots in the sim community... 

this is a FLIGHT Sim, this doesn’t have to be turned into a political problem for no reason.

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33 minutes ago, Blinky.ben said:

this is a FLIGHT Sim, this doesn’t have to be turned into a political problem for no reason.

Agreed. This can't seriously be anywhere near a priority for anyone... who cares, get us Multi threading and vulkan please... 

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Why not, would be a refreshing change. 🙂 

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Absolutely rediculous. This is a military Flight sim and it has generic pilot models in flightsuit, helmet, visor down. Anybody who wastes a thought about if there's a dude or dudess or which color the invisible skin has (there's way more than two colors...) should just stick with "The Sims" and troll somewhere else.

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1 hour ago, Blinky.ben said:

this is a FLIGHT Sim, this doesn’t have to be turned into a political problem for no reason.

It's the same silly arguments every time... It's political... make vulkan first... 

ED invest 3D modelers time to re-create pilot model for their aircraft (F-16/8 at the moment per their statements) - so creating a woman face or black face - ain't that big of a task. 

It got nothing to do with vulkan for that matter. Absolutely different engineers.

Moreover, there is nothing political about it. The community contain black people and woman. Be it my daughter that fly's the sim from time to time or anyone else. With that much effort being invested to increase immersion - that is an important feature (BTW, there are black super carrier crew... So it's already been done by ED... They just need to do it on the pilot models as well).

*ED found time to model 3D skeletons for Halloween... before finishing vulkan 😉 So modeling a few faces for their pilot models... 

RAZBAM could be the first one to do it and that could be very cool.

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26 minutes ago, nickos86 said:

It's the same silly arguments every time... It's political... make vulkan first... 

ED invest 3D modelers time to re-create pilot model for their aircraft (F-16/8 at the moment per their statements) - so creating a woman face or black face - ain't that big of a task. 

It got nothing to do with vulkan for that matter. Absolutely different engineers.

Moreover, there is nothing political about it. The community contain black people and woman. Be it my daughter that fly's the sim from time to time or anyone else. With that much effort being invested to increase immersion - that is an important feature (BTW, there are black super carrier crew... So it's already on their minds?!).

RAZBAM could be the first one to do it and that could be very cool.

Immersion, are you pretending the F2 view is a drone looking back at the pilot? That is not immersion it’s just political issues being made up. Yes spend the money on staff and time to create a decent engine that performs better for everyone.

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13 minutes ago, Blinky.ben said:

Immersion, are you pretending the F2 view is a drone looking back at the pilot? That is not immersion it’s just political issues being made up. Yes spend the money on staff and time to create a decent engine that performs better for everyone.

As @nickos86 said, the people who would take care of it probably have nothing to do with modernizing the sim engine; honestly, I see a lot more "politics" in those who oppose this request than in those who propose it.

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48 minutes ago, nickos86 said:

It's the same silly arguments every time... It's political... make vulkan first... 

ED invest 3D modelers time to re-create pilot model for their aircraft (F-16/8 at the moment per their statements) - so creating a woman face or black face - ain't that big of a task. 

It got nothing to do with vulkan for that matter. Absolutely different engineers.

Moreover, there is nothing political about it. The community contain black people and woman. Be it my daughter that fly's the sim from time to time or anyone else. With that much effort being invested to increase immersion - that is an important feature (BTW, there are black super carrier crew... So it's already been done by ED... They just need to do it on the pilot models as well).

*ED found time to model 3D skeletons for Halloween... before finishing vulkan 😉 So modeling a few faces for their pilot models... 

RAZBAM could be the first one to do it and that could be very cool.

 

Black pilots already exist in DCS

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The pilot model's face is enormously unimportant to me. I couldn't even tell you what the face looks like on the modules I fly regularly that have a pilot model.

The WSO I might see occasionally in the mirrors but it's still extremely unimportant.

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1.7 No political, social or cultural disputes on the ED forums.

 

Female pilots have been requested already but I have no news to share. 

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Honestly, it's not like you can tell that in a modern bird, between a flightsuit with the flotation colar, the oxygen mask and the HMD, you can barely even tell the skin color. It's just a matter of recording a voice.

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I demand that ED does a voice over of myself as the WSO as well as every other DCS player or else we can't really be immersed in the sim.  I also expect them to invite me in and do a mocap of me in every plane or else I will never buy another module.  This is the immersion I need.

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