Patch notes discussion 10th March - 12th April 2023

[MadKreator]

Time to try a full syria mission on liberation with no culling Excited for this!   ED does love us!

[Gunfreak]

Just now, MadKreator said:

Time to try a full syria mission on liberation with no culling Excited for this!   ED does love us!

ED will not pay for any fires that result from stress testing multi-threading.

[sirrah]

5 minutes ago, PorkFriedBryce said:

25fps => 150fps on a busy SP mission on Marianas
Great work ED, thank you!

Yeah sure 

[zildac]

15 minutes ago, dburne said:

 

Yes this.

This works, yes.

[MadKreator]

3 minutes ago, Gunfreak said:

ED will not pay for any fires that result from stress testing multi-threading.

LOL I’m willing to take the chance

[zildac]

9 minutes ago, PorkFriedBryce said:

25fps => 150fps on a busy SP mission on Marianas
Great work ED, thank you!

 

So, I'll be honest. I'm seeing zero performance increase in either Syria Free Flight or Caucasus ready on the ramp Hornet. I appreciate this isn't really the use case for MT, however. But the terrain shadows performance issue does now appear to be fixed!

[Badger1-1]

3 minutes ago, zildac said:

 

So, I'll be honest. I'm seeing zero performance increase in either Syria Free Flight or Caucasus ready on the ramp Hornet. I appreciate this isn't really the use case for MT, however. But the terrain shadows performance issue does now appear to be fixed!

same here, max 15fps more. But I had good fps anyway plus a brand new cpu. Yes started it via the new .exe

Still happy! hoping for more complex MP missions

[MAXsenna]

Well. On my my heavily GPU bound (GTX Titan) 10 year old computer, I got a 25% FPS increase on one of my test missions.
So, currently I'm happy, both for me and those of you that don't have vintage computers!

Have a fantastic weekend everyone, remember to get some sleep!

[Sr.]

Stuck at work... managed to DL/Install via remote desktop.

 

I feel a covid variant coming on.

 

 

cough...cough

[Gryzor]

It seems to me that STEAM VR no longer works in MT version. Even putting "--force_steam_VR" (DCS Hangs)

Only works in OpenXR which is not good for me (Valve Index)

SteamVR will be abandoned in MT? Any fix please?

Edited March 10, 2023 by Gryzor

[dburne]

Servers must be very busy. Trying to launch the game and just keep getting login attempting screen...

[YoYo]

6 minutes ago, Gryzor said:

It seems to me that STEAM VR no longer works in MT version. Even putting "--force_steam_VR" (DCS Hangs)

Only works in OpenXR which is not good for me (Valve Index)

SteamVR will be abandoned in MT? Any fix please?

 

Steam VR is default system for DCS. Dont joke even ;).

Which Headset?

 

[Scotia]

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Any idea when this will get fixed?

Edited March 10, 2023 by Scotia
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[AKULA_OPTIMUS]

Just tested it for 10 min, its all I have till next week, and in a quick flight in Syria, with many AI vehicles and planes, 2D monitor, the improvement was noticeable

[GayCavalier]

First MT report on VR.  On a 3080 and PIMAX 8kx running OpenXR (Pimax XR), the loading screens have now gone.   The main menu is there and mostly stable.  However, any of the progress-bar type loading screens are now replaced by black screens.    The sim still loads, and loads much quicker than usual, if you wait through the blank screens.  Once in sim, there's a terrible frame lag, almost like someone turned on an incompatible motion reprojection, and with usual fps.   I tried a number of SP missions, with the same effect.  Rebooted and tried again.  Same.   Starting with bin-mt\DCS.exe --force_VR --force_OpenXR command line.      I went back into ST DCS, and now I have around 25% more fps in VR - go figure!   Either way, whatever happened with this update, the performance has improved.  I guess i'll have to wait until the next OB update to see if the visual stability in VR has improved for me.

If anyone has any thoughts, i'd appreciate it - currently difficult to work in the menus in MT mode, as the shaking is worse than the opening sequence of "First Man"

Edited March 10, 2023 by GayCavalier

[Gryzor]

2 minutes ago, YoYo said:

Steam VR is default system for DCS. Dont joke even ;).

Which Headset?

 

Valve Index. Is there some sharpness shader like reshade but working under OpenXR?

[GayCavalier]

1 minute ago, Gryzor said:

Valve Index. Is there some sharpness shader like reshade but working under OpenXR?

Yes.  OpenXR Toolkit has a sharpness option (under the CTRL+F2 menu in VR).   As reshade doesn't work currently with OpenXR, you have to use the sharpness options in the toolkit instead.

[YoYo]

2 minutes ago, Gryzor said:

Valve Index. Is there some sharpness shader like reshade but working under OpenXR?

Yes, Im using OpenXR Toolkit but normally Im using Steam VR plus Reshade too (but HP Reverb).

[MAXsenna]

Servers must be very busy. Trying to launch the game and just keep getting login attempting screen...

Yeah, I believe was lucky to be an "early adopter".

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[chaos]

54 minutes ago, Gunfreak said:

How many are affected by this?

I had to check my CPU and I have nice low number of 16.

I have the 5950X and the sim starts just fine. I do not see any performance gains so I will try to disable SMT next...

[Baldrick33]

Works fine with OpenXR (Reverb G1) but SteamVR crashes using the bin-mt exe

dcs.log-20230310-160804zip

[Sr.]

47 minutes ago, PiotrMKG said:

Those CPUs have 16 cores 32 threads so no need to disable SMT. Disable SMT only if more than 32 threads.

Prior to MT, I have always been informed to disable SMT. Now that DCS is MT, should it be re-enabled?

 

 

edit: Or maybe it was hyper-threading

Edited March 10, 2023 by Sr.

[IR.Clutch]

2 минуты назад, Baldrick33 сказал:

Works fine with OpenXR (Reverb G1) but SteamVR crashes using the bin-mt exe

Same story. MT preview probably doesn't support SteamVR?

[muzica9]

well, mixed felling.

f-18, instant action-caucas-ready on the ramp . vr mode - same fps on the ground. around 60 fps. but - 6ms cpu frame time. from 15ms with ST to 9-10ms with MT. still get increased cpu time when looking to batlle front with many ai units.

not much improvement for me. so i will keep same settings as before. and still need to cap my rtx 4090 to 55 fps.

43 minutes ago, MadKreator said:

Time to try a full syria mission on liberation with no culling Excited for this!   ED does love us!

you will be disappointed. you still have to keep old settings and workarounds

[QuozL]

25 minutes ago, GayCavalier said:

First MT report on VR.  On a 3080 and PIMAX 8kx running OpenXR (Pimax XR), the loading screens have now gone.   The main menu is there and mostly stable.  However, any of the progress-bar type loading screens are now replaced by black screens.    The sim still loads, and loads much quicker than usual, if you wait through the blank screens.  Once in sim, there's a terrible frame lag, almost like someone turned on an incompatible motion reprojection, and with usual fps.   I tried a number of SP missions, with the same effect.  Rebooted and tried again.  Same.   Starting with bin-mt\DCS.exe --force_VR --force_OpenXR command line.      I went back into ST DCS, and now I have around 25% more fps in VR - go figure!   Either way, whatever happened with this update, the performance has improved.  I guess i'll have to wait until the next OB update to see if the visual stability in VR has improved for me.

If anyone has any thoughts, i'd appreciate it - currently difficult to work in the menus in MT mode, as the shaking is worse than the opening sequence of "First Man"

 

Are you sure HT is enabled in your BIOS?

Edit to fix my mistake

Edited March 10, 2023 by QuozL