planned - see store page A cockpit with English labels & a finished manual on the day of publication.

[kotor633]

As the title said.

[Hiob]

Вы не говорите по-русски? 

[Gierasimov]

1 hour ago, Hiob said:

Вы не говорите по-русски? 

I might want to learn actually! 

[Hiob]

4 minutes ago, Gierasimov said:

I might want to learn actually! 

I have more than enough to do with learning the aircraft(s) already!  So, I wholeheartedly second this wish. I don't think ED will drop the ball on this, though. Either way - wishlist is wishlist.

[Gierasimov]

19 minutes ago, Hiob said:

I have more than enough to do with learning the aircraft(s) already!  So, I wholeheartedly second this wish. I don't think ED will drop the ball on this, though. Either way - wishlist is wishlist.

Though I keep my Hind and Blackshark in it's original language I don't mind EN labels at all, especially since I intend to mainly fly for Poles. 

[Volator]

i am positive ED will include an English cockpit, as they have done so with all their Soviet modules so far, and I really think it’s a good idea to do so. 

[FlankerKiller]

Plus one on the English cockpit. 

[Rudel_chw]

19 minutes ago, Volator said:

as they have done so with all their Soviet modules so far

 

I'm pretty sure that the FC3 soviet aircrafts (Su-25A, Su-25T, Su-27, Su-33 and MiG-29) did not initially include an English cockpit.

[Volator]

5 hours ago, Rudel_chw said:

 

I'm pretty sure that the FC3 soviet aircrafts (Su-25A, Su-25T, Su-27, Su-33 and MiG-29) did not initially include an English cockpit.

Ah, you are right, I was only thinking of their FF modules MiG-15, Mi-8, Mi-24.

[JetFighterGirl]

I am sure they will provide EN translated pit and HUD. I am going to use the original even though I do not speak the language. I can't see anything bad with learning those few Cyrillic words or phrases. 

[Hiob]

1 hour ago, JetFighterGirl said:

I can't see anything bad with learning those few Cyrillic words or phrases. 

There isn't.  Just not everybodies cup of tea, probably.  

Welcome to the forum btw!

[JetFighterGirl]

Just now, Hiob said:

There isn't.  Just not everybodies cup of tea, probably.  

Welcome to the forum btw!

Thank you! Yes, I agree.

 

[Gierasimov]

On 1/8/2024 at 8:50 AM, kotor633 said:

As the title said.

Regarding the manual, while we still await official announcement as to the exact features expected, and granted this is for the NATO standardized G version, nevertheless something to chew on while we wait for the DCS one: 

 

[kotor633]

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3302483/

[WinterH]

Let me tell you guys something funny. I can read Cyrillic. Don't understand much of anything of course, but I can read the alphabet almost %100.

How did I learn?

Well how, of course with using Russian vehicles in DCS and other titles for many years! At first started understanding some letters, and eventually, very much suddenly, I was like "wait... I... can read Cyrillic now..."

However, I must say, I don't really understand the necessity of having English cockpits in aircraft without complex MFD menus and such, like in Ka-50, which I still use in English. In everything else, it's pretty easy to tell what's an ADI, HSI, altimeter, speedo, VSI, G and AoA indicator etc, and for switches we already learn what's what from manuals and videos when starting, and they have English tooltips anyway. And as a bonus, you may slowly learn another alphabet as a side effect as did I

Don't get me wrong, I hope people who want it will get it of course. I just personally don't get why is this that important.

For flight manual however, agree %115!

[twistking]

10 hours ago, WinterH said:

Let me tell you guys something funny. I can read Cyrillic. Don't understand much of anything of course, but I can read the alphabet almost %100.

How did I learn?

Well how, of course with using Russian vehicles in DCS and other titles for many years! At first started understanding some letters, and eventually, very much suddenly, I was like "wait... I... can read Cyrillic now..."

However, I must say, I don't really understand the necessity of having English cockpits in aircraft without complex MFD menus and such, like in Ka-50, which I still use in English. In everything else, it's pretty easy to tell what's an ADI, HSI, altimeter, speedo, VSI, G and AoA indicator etc, and for switches we already learn what's what from manuals and videos when starting, and they have English tooltips anyway. And as a bonus, you may slowly learn another alphabet as a side effect as did I

Don't get me wrong, I hope people who want it will get it of course. I just personally don't get why is this that important.

For flight manual however, agree %115!

I agree. I think it's just useful knowledge if you pick up bits and parts of other languages even if you'll never be able to properly understand or speak it.
The vocabulary you need to "read" an analogue cockpit is so minimal, that you can easily learn it while learning the proper operations. Digital cockpits are surely something different though.
I would appreciate if the manual could help a bit with understanding cyrillic russian. For example in the cockpit overview part, it could name the buttons not only in cyrillic, but also include romanizations of the word, translation (obviously) and pronounciation with international phonetic alphabet.

[AvgeekJoe]

Second.  I like the mods that make the MiG-29 cockpit English so I can use the instruments.

[Vähäkylä]

On 1/9/2024 at 1:47 AM, JetFighterGirl said:

I am sure they will provide EN translated pit and HUD. I am going to use the original even though I do not speak the language. I can't see anything bad with learning those few Cyrillic words or phrases. 

Which one is more realistic:

Scenario A:  A fighter pilot sits in a cockpit and reads the labels fine (since they're in English)

Scenario B: A fighter pilot sits in the cockpit and mutters "I can't read any of this <profanity>" (Because they're Cyrillic for _realism_)


People like to tout "realism", but it isn't the case that it always means making everything as obtuse as possible. After all, in real life many services used this super weapon to un-cyrillic their cockpit:

[draconus]

4 hours ago, Vähäkylä said:

Which one is more realistic:

Scenario C : A fighter pilot is first trained in simulators and have a complete knowledge of the whole cockpit before entering the real deal. If you have to read all the labels you're not ready to fly it.

OK, there were some label plates or instrument replaced in turned-NATO MiGs but not all labels - that also makes them quite different and not fit the original MiG-29 modeling.

[MAXsenna]

Pretty sure it will come with an English cockpit, (LOL autocorrect insists on cocktail), on day one. Why wouldn't it? 

[Gierasimov]

I think so too, I don't see how it would not, but for sure I don't mind original cockpit at all. 

[MAXsenna]

3 minutes ago, Gierasimov said:

I think so too, I don't see how it would not, but for sure I don't mind original cockpit at all. 

I usually start with English in the Russian, Cyrillic, cockpits. Then I switch. Not needed for French, Spanish nor Swedish.  

Edited October 11, 2024 by MAXsenna

[pjbunnyru]

В 11.10.2024 в 14:00, Gierasimov сказал:

I think so too, I don't see how it would not, but for sure I don't mind original cockpit at all. 

 

В 11.10.2024 в 14:03, MAXsenna сказал:

I usually start with English in the Russian, Cyrillic, cockpits. Then I switch. Not needed for French, Spanish nor Swedish.  

 

u can learn to read, its not that dificult

but listening to our "Rita" is definiteli dificult for u

[MAXsenna]

39 minutes ago, pjbunnyru said:

 

u can learn to read, its not that dificult

but listening to our "Rita" is definiteli dificult for u

You might brush up on that advice yourself. It's not a difficult skill. Try once more?

It's definitely not difficult to write as well.

How does a Russian pyjamas bunny look like. You've got a picture?  

[pjbunnyru]

9 минут назад, MAXsenna сказал:

You might brush up on that advice yourself. It's not a difficult skill. Try once more?

It's definitely not difficult to write as well.

How does a Russian pyjamas bunny look like. You've got a picture?  

Its not hard to learn to read, but hard to understand

how to write if there is no russian keyboard layout?
PJ is first letters of my first and last name, isnt pijamas