Flaming Cliffs 2024

[PenairCCF]

Will it go on sale and be immediately available on the 26th?

[draconus]

1 hour ago, PenairCCF said:

Will it go on sale and be immediately available on the 26th?

As soon as the update is live it should be available in the store.

[Lenux]

On 6/19/2024 at 3:05 PM, draconus said:

This is just an option. If you already own FF modules you're not affected by FC2024. If you want simplified systems versions you'll have to buy them either with FC2024 pack (or upgrade from FC3) or as single modules.

All FC3 aircraft will be the same in FC2024. If you don't want new aircraft added, no reason to upgrade.

So, there is no difference between FC3 and FC 2024  ? Cockpit textures, details, sound, flight model ?

I'm  a bit confused. I own FC3, F5E, F86, MiG 15

There is no reason to buy FC 2024, right ??

[Avimimus]

They already updated the FC3 3d models for free!

I'm getting FC2024 just to show support for the idea of more FC content (which could someday include 4th generation planes if we're very lucky), but I'd also get it just for compatibility reasons.

[Silver_Dragon]

1 hour ago, Lenux said:

So, there is no difference between FC3 and FC 2024  ? Cockpit textures, details, sound, flight model ?

I'm  a bit confused. I own FC3, F5E, F86, MiG 15

There is no reason to buy FC 2024, right ??

FC-2024 has the same FC-3 with that three new units, and that no afect the FF modules. You get FC-2024 free, that version suppresed old FC-3 as actual Ugra Media Normandy 2, suppresed Normandy 1.

[Silver_Dragon]

On 6/5/2024 at 7:56 AM, Irisz said:

Dear fellow Flanker fans and esteemed ED developers,

Unfortunately, no one will post secret military documents on the forum. It's unfortunate that ED is so strict about FC3 and doesn't understand that it could be a little more lenient with this product, emphasizing playability and ensuring that any changes made do not detract from the value of the FC3 product for the success of DCS World.

The J-11A in FC3 does not match the real Chinese J-11A MLU Flanker! It has a stronger N001VE radar. There’s no need to violate military secrets; simply correct the radar as described in the information on the forum about the N001VE. I have provided substantial information about the J-11A. It could be updated with compromises. The MFI-55 display is completely secret, so as the entire FC3 product is built, functions that enable the use of KH-29T, KH-31P, and KAB-500KR weapons could be created. The KH-31P anti-radar missile could work just as the Su-25T uses the KH-58 and the KH-25MPU! The KH-29T and KAB-500KR, which have been researched for years for use by the J-11A, could also be implemented. These weapons work with TV display targeting, and the OLS could be aimed as it works in the Su-25T!

You could enhance FC3's appeal without violating military secrets and thereby have more satisfied DCS World users. Although three new aircraft types were announced in FC2024, they do not address this issue.

I reiterate that FC3 is not about simulating real functions but presents simplified functions, and many people love the FC3 product for this reason. This philosophy, with which the FC3 product was created, would make the J-11A more similar to the real-life J-11A!

I respectfully ask the developers to consider this. It does not require many years of development to implement the changes I have described, but it would make DCS World much more attractive!

We also know that if a product is attractive, many more people will spend money on it. I think this is worth keeping in mind!

As posted on a previous post, J-11A has a Dekka module and ED and FC-3 has nothing to do here. Repeat the same argument ever and ever and no change nothing.

Someone needs to remember that the LOMAC/FC/DCS World "Georgian" Su-25T/TM has nothing to do with the actual Su-25SM/SM2/SM3/SM4 used by the Russian Air force... The T version was only a series of prototypes builded from 98 to 2003, based on the Afghanistan soviet experience to improve the old Su-25A with new weapons, systems and avionics, and that aircraft was canceled as very expensive by the Russian Air Force. The actual Su-25SM version has a different beast.

Edited July 2, 2024 by Silver_Dragon

[draconus]

8 hours ago, Lenux said:

I'm  a bit confused. I own FC3, F5E, F86, MiG 15

There is no reason to buy FC 2024, right ??

That depends. People who prefer the non-clickable simplified avionics FC modules seek the ease of use, unified controls and less systems to take care of. Kind of byproduct is that the FC3 modules are performing much better when it comes to fps.

[Fisu_MAD]

@BIGNEWY there is a estimated release date for FC 2024?

Thx.

[skywalker22]

Today or tomorrow, depends when the new DCS update is coming out.

Edited July 4, 2024 by skywalker22

[CarloVecchi]

vor 28 Minuten schrieb skywalker22:

Today

hopefully...

1st it was anounced on July 3rd... 

[aleader]

8 hours ago, CarloVecchi said:

hopefully...

1st it was anounced on July 3rd... 

It's been delayed indefinitely now.

[BIGNEWY]

4 minutes ago, aleader said:

It's been delayed indefinitely now.

We will share a new date when we can, but it wont be this week. To close to the weekend for such a big patch and could be disaster for weekend game play. So best to delay. 

We will share news about the delay in the newsletter hopefully. 

thank you 

[CarloVecchi]

vor 7 Stunden schrieb BIGNEWY:

We will share a new date when we can, but it wont be this week. To close to the weekend for such a big patch and could be disaster for weekend game play. So best to delay. 

We will share news about the delay in the newsletter hopefully. 

thank you 

That´s a good way! 

Best would be the release on July 13th, when I´m then back from vacation. 

[ProtoTypeK7]

If you own all the FC3 craft but as individual purchases, not the FC3 pack, and the F-5, F-86, and mig-15 full fidelity versions....what kind of discount would that total to, does it have to be strictly the FC3 pack or will having the whole pack as singles count?

[draconus]

On 7/6/2024 at 8:02 AM, ProtoTypeK7 said:

does it have to be strictly the FC3 pack or will having the whole pack as singles count?

No official discount was promised for that but you can ask support directly.

[Xup]

It's out guys, update time.

[Beirut]

Sorry. Nevermind. 

Edited July 11, 2024 by Beirut

[dr_anthony]

All FC3 acft unavailable after update, fc3 module inactive, but seems installed a10a, f15c, etc, separately. What should I do?

[Japo32]

same.. it says autorization not valid for my FC3 planes. They will be disabled in 3 days @BIGNEWY

[Xup]

After the update you need to install them from the game itself.

[firefox121]

nullI owns FC3 and after update this is what I see, and can`t play any module like f15 or migs, only su33 and su25

Always says install module (fc3 ) restart and the same screen

[Recluse]

All of mine were fine, but along with the option to install the 3 new aircraft, I had the option to install FC3, but I just installed the new aircraft separately. Now I have all of them, but listed separately and FC3 is still in the AVAILABLE TO INSTALL.  (Previously I installed FC3 and not the individual modules, BTW and FC3 showed up).

null

Edited July 11, 2024 by Recluse

[Japo32]

This doesn't work.. it says that I need to reinstall.. I do it... and then again same msg of deactivation of fc3 planes. And again show the install of the planes to be done (fc3). This is only shown inside DCS menu. Not the new launcher

Edited July 11, 2024 by Japo32

[Ironhand]

29 minutes ago, Japo32 said:

same.. it says autorization not valid for my FC3 planes. They will be disabled in 3 days @BIGNEWY

If you purchased and installed FC4, wouldn’t FC3 now be defunct? Or is it that FC4 shows up as FC3 with the 3 new aircraft?

[Japo32]

I didn't purchase FC2024.