The unofficial "2025 and Beyond" video hype / speculation & discussion thread

[Mad_Shell]

New infantry with more diverse units (ATGM, machine gun...) and improved ground AI 

[Cobrajet]

We have been seeing the M1A1 Abram in a lot of videos this year. Just saying.

[sirrah]

My vote (hope) goes to a "Dynamic Campaign" release teaser

[Tomas9970]

On 11/27/2024 at 1:50 PM, Hatman335 said:

UH-60 teaser is what I expect or perhaps the Germany map. 

For the UH-60, I believe Matt said that they want to do the UH-60M and are pretty much waiting for data to be declassified instead of making an older version.

 

As for predictions, I want to see the F-104 and the Typhoon. On top of that, I obviously do welcome any new surprises or hidden teasers.

[MAXsenna]

2 hours ago, Tomas9970 said:

instead of making an older version.

Lost opportunity.  

2 hours ago, Tomas9970 said:

As for predictions, I want to see the F-104 and the Typhoon. On top of that, I obviously do welcome any new surprises or hidden teasers.

Too early I'm afraid. 

[Kappa-131st]

My personnal list for Santa Claus for 2025 :

Core :
- Dynamic campaign
- Better optimisation with VULKAN and MT (Best usage of all CPU cores, particulary for VR users or for dedied server)
- Network improvment in multiplayer for big squadron or Online Multiplayers Server
- New diversified infantries with sniper (Anti personnal or anti material), ATGM (Javelin, Kornet...), mortars, all embarkables by transport. CF currenthill's work
- Improved IA (pathfinding in city or forest, more natural behaviour, AIs which are not alway snipers, which has reconnaissance capabilities which take better account of the terrain, the elements, and which can also communicate with each other (example, if a group spots us, a 2nd group next to it should be in alert and aware of our global presence)
- New modern units (Ex : Pantsir, etc...). And not only for Russia & USA (make European units, french, english, dutch, turkish, Israelian units). All map that have been release must have complete army (Sweedich and Finland with Kola Map for example) Make a partenaria with Currenthill ?
- Weather improvemend (thunderstorm, variable dynamic wind (squalls, gusts of wind), wind that follows reliefs like mountain valleys)

Modules :
- I personnaly hope for naval helicopter gameplay with modules like KA-27 or MH-60R... With sonoboys, sonar and torpedo to make Submarine hunt)
- And Cobra / Viper Helicopter !!

- Mig-29

Map :
- VietNam map
- East Europe map
- Balkan map
- full map for Afghanistan and Irak.

 

Other : 
Rethink the game's financing system to allow more evolution of the core. Currently, the game is entirely financed by modules and maps, and this is why the core of the game evolves very slowly. However, it represents the most important part of the game, the one on which players have the most requests. We need to find a financing method to make the core of the game evolve much more quickly.

Edited January 16 by Kappa-131st

[Gunfreak]

8 hours ago, MAXsenna said:

Lost opportunity.  

Too early I'm afraid. 

Yeah. Enough with these super modern choppy choppys. If the had selected an older BH model they could make one that would fit very well with Iraq(both 91 and 2003) Afghanistan, Balkans. 

Not sure why ED would go for models that just fit current period.  When we can't get jets that fit this period. Who wants to drop of Eric Bana in Mogadishu with a glass cockpit, when we could do it the proper way. 

I'm still miffed they went for a super modern Hook. And it's one of the reasons I stil haven't bought it.

[MAXsenna]

Yeah. Enough with these super modern choppy choppys. If the had selected an older BH model they could make one that would fit very well with Iraq(both 91 and 2003) Afghanistan, Balkans. 
Not sure why ED would go for models that just fit current period.  When we can't get jets that fit this period. Who wants to drop of Eric Bana in Mogadishu with a glass cockpit, when we could do it the proper way. 
I'm still miffed they went for a super modern Hook. And it's one of the reasons I stil haven't bought it.

Aaaand, they could sell a modern upgrade later.

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[Gunfreak]

34 minutes ago, MAXsenna said:

Aaaand, they could sell a modern upgrade later.

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Agreed.

[Lace]

Yep.  My only reasoning is that the 'latest and greatest' has the wider appeal to the customer base, whereas the older 'A models' are more of an enthusiasts choice.  I'm sure they do their research but I would also much prefer more relevant older versions.  I'd love an F-16A (biggest export model), FF A-10A (cold war and Desert Storm icon), AH-64A (also DS), F/A-18A (DS... you get the theme here...), etc.  

An xx-60 Franken-Hawk would be fine for me, generic steam gauges, and able to sub in for a Sea-Hawk, Pave-Hawk, Black-Hawk etc. and far preferrable to a modern single-variant.

[Boosterdog]

Whatever it shows, I'll view with a huge handful of salt after the recent maps. 

[Volator]

On 11/30/2024 at 9:29 AM, Tomas9970 said:

For the UH-60, I believe Matt said that they want to do the UH-60M and are pretty much waiting for data to be declassified instead of making an older version.

[Badger1-1]

54 minutes ago, Volator said:

+1

[Hatman335]

On 11/30/2024 at 9:29 AM, Tomas9970 said:

For the UH-60, I believe Matt said that they want to do the UH-60M and are pretty much waiting for data to be declassified instead of making an older version.

 

There is nothing classified on the UH-60M aside from the usual stuff that doesn't really pertain to DCS like countermeasure performance, etc.

[LorenLuke]

4 hours ago, Lace said:

My only reasoning is that the 'latest and greatest' has the wider appeal to the customer base, whereas the older 'A models' are more of an enthusiasts choice.

We're all already here, playing our 'flip switch in cockpit like it's the real deal'-simulator/game with various aircraft, developed and curated for this experience based on their fidelity to the genuine article...

Find someone among us who isn't an enthusiast.

[Lace]

18 hours ago, LorenLuke said:

We're all already here, playing our 'flip switch in cockpit like it's the real deal'-simulator/game with various aircraft, developed and curated for this experience based on their fidelity to the genuine article...

Find someone among us who isn't an enthusiast.

I think those of us who regularly inhabit this forum are a tiny minority of DCS players.  There are many more causal players who don't spend their time here discussing the game.  It must be this 'silent majority' who drive the decisions on which content to produce, as it often seems at odds with the general consensus on this forum.

ED have the sale figures for each module, and I guess the data says modern tech is what people buy.

[Bikerguy302000]

I'd like the Tonka and the A6E to be on the horizon, but I think I'm at least a year or two too early.  Oh and of course the dynamic campaign, everyone wants that, right ?   

[western_JPN]

New flying movies of A-1 Skyraider, F-100 Super Sabre, MiG-17, Tornado and Kfir ?

[Sr.]

Vulkan

 

'nuff said

[Hotdognz]

Well from the 2024 video we got this year, F4E, Kiowa, Chinook, Afghan, Koloa, tree and rotor wash & jet wash effects.

So for the 2025 Beyond video it will be more of the following, Iraq, C130, F6 Hellcat, Corsair, LA7, Ai A6 Intruder, A7,  WW2 Carriers, WW2 Marianas and the new Abrahams model in many shots, they will then add in some stuff that is further developed through 2024 from 3rd part devs and also maybe the Mig29A and of course the surprise which I think will be a Fulda Gap type terrain.

We will also get lost of pseudo Vietnam and WW2 type looking cut scenes showing off stuff that is in the pipeline but many years away.

[Lace]

Will Fulda be the 'big reveal' though?  It's already been teased in several videos and stills.  Might it be something from a 3rd party?  It isn't always an ED module (Phantom was teased in a 'beyond' video).

 

[Vakarian]

I mean, you have to account for a thing that I suspect the majority of the community doesn't spend their days on the forums (like some of us do ) so it could be a major reveal to them. Also, when it actually happens then we actually have something to hope for.

[Mainstay]

My wishlist :

ED MiG-23MLD, MiG-29A & C, Ka52, Su-24, Su-17M4

HB A-6E, B-1B 

Aerges Sepecat Jaguar

 

Tech :

Vulkan 

Dynamic Campaign 

Vietnam map 

All old models updated (Su25T, ground units, ai units et cetera) 

[Tomas9970]

On 12/2/2024 at 8:06 AM, Lace said:

I think those of us who regularly inhabit this forum are a tiny minority of DCS players.  There are many more causal players who don't spend their time here discussing the game.  It must be this 'silent majority' who drive the decisions on which content to produce, as it often seems at odds with the general consensus on this forum.

ED have the sale figures for each module, and I guess the data says modern tech is what people buy.

Well, we know for a fact that the F/A-18C was a huge commercial success that also brought many new people into DCS. So yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if ED went for another glass-cockpit jet.

 

Also if I remember correctly, the Chinook was announced out of the blue with good 3D model and everything so it's not like ED is bad at keeping things secret if they really want to.

Edited December 3, 2024 by Tomas9970

[MAXsenna]

10 hours ago, Lace said:

Will Fulda be the 'big reveal' though?  It's already been teased in several videos and stills.  Might it be something from a 3rd party?  It isn't always an ED module (Phantom was teased in a 'beyond' video).

 

Rumors on Reddit has it that UGRA is making it. I don't know. I always assumed that a major popular map like that would be made in house. While looking at the screenshots, they look more like Syria than Afghanistan/Iraq.