fixed F-5E Remastered FPS issue after the last patch?

[303_Vins]

Not only Refurbished F-5E but also Normal/Standard F-5E. Same issues.  From cockpit and from external view.  HORRIBLE FPS DROPS AND STUTERING. MAY BE both are renderd in same time. One inside another version

Edited December 27, 2024 by 303_Vins

[LizardKingYB]

In mp my fps after spawn is between 0 and 1. I don't get it.

[zaelu]

On 12/26/2024 at 11:43 PM, Bucic said:

What's your wake turbulence setting?

On.

[RustBelt]

Huh CPU bound and goes away with pause. Sounds like a flight model issue. Which would track with it affecting Both Legacy and Remaster.

[tsb47]

Yep same issue. Just happened a couple of days ago. I love that plane so would be keen to know how to downgrade....

[tsb47]

I have this issue too. It started yesterday and went from to 5 fps.

Original module also has this issue. I downgraded to the original f-5E module and no fix. very low fps.

Changing settings does not affect it. I put all settings to lowest with a blank Caucuses map with just the f-5 spawned in. Same problem. 5-11 fps.

For context, with any other module I am hitting my self-imposed 90 fps limit even with all settings turned to the highest / extreme, including performance heavy modules like the f-14.

It looks like a problem with the F-5 module generally, or the way the core sim is interacting with the f-5E module (both original and 2024 remaster).

I don't own the F-5E Flaming Cliffs so don't know if that also presents this problem.

 

 

 

Edited December 28, 2024 by tsb47

[Bucic]

59 minutes ago, tsb47 said:

Yep same issue. Just happened a couple of days ago. I love that plane so would be keen to know how to downgrade....

https://forum.dcs.world/topic/94816-guide-info-dcs-updater-usage-version-numbers-module-ids

 

[Tomcatter87]

I had a frame drop yesterday - when flying the F-4E Phantom. So I wondered what the problem was - then I remembered I placed some static F-5E (non-FC) on the airfield. This might have been the reason.

[LizardKingYB]

I noticed vram using goes weirdly high 

Spoiler

 

Edited December 28, 2024 by LizardKingYB

[Bucic]

[DST]

I can confirm, I also detected this issue yesterday, massive stutters in F5 in VR (Quest 3) since last update. Found no workaround, other modules are fine 

[VZ_342]

On 12/26/2024 at 5:36 PM, tribbin said:

Which version(s) of the F-5E are affected? As in; can people de-install the remastered or buy the FC version as a fallback?

The remastered seems to be the one that's affected. If you go to "module management" in the game (upper left corner, 3x3 icon) you can deactivate the F-5E module, restart the sim and then you have the original F-5E3 back.

 

 

[Psychotoddler]

I think it might have something to do with the Audio.  I get FPS up in the 90s with the briefing screen up.  Soon as I turn it off, it drops down to 10.  If I press pause, FPS jump back up to 90.

[Psychotoddler]

I think it might be the new audio.  I get 90s in the briefing screen.  If I press fly it drops down to 10 fps.  If I pause it shoots back to 90s

[les]

I've got the same, the mirage F1 is even worse

[Hawkeye_UK]

I came purely to the forums to look for this issue, ran the F5 when the remaster patch launched at the beginning of December.  All seemed ok (well except some visual's that I thought would be better such as night time dial illumination etc)

Last night was the first time i have had chance to test the latest Christmas patch.  The performance is shocking since they launched less than a month ago, a 30% drop in FPS and spikes in frame times.

I don't know what ED have done but they have literally killed the FPS and i would go as far as saying its now unflyable in VR.

Note i am not a noob, yes i have cleaned out all shaders, done a slow repair and no mod's installed.  Running same drivers for PC and window's for both patches. 

ED have clearly dropped the proverbial ball here, my question is how do such obvious issues get past testing - once again i am minded to think that the testing, is not to a standard acceptable for what is now a "stable" branch.

Edited December 29, 2024 by Hawkeye_UK

[Hawkeye_UK]

@BIGNEWY @NineLine  Guys i note we are 3 pages in, on what is a relaunch module and no response or acknowledgement as yet on this game breaking issue with the F5E remastered.  Whatever code adjustments that were completed for the Christmas patch literally in terms of FPS performance broke the module.

Also copying you in @Chizh  as i note important threads are not alwasy being fed directly back to where they need to be.

Many thanks hope you all have a good festive break, I'm guessing this could be the reason for this not being answered (re the Bignewy/Nineline) however just an idea perhaps post something saying we are on a break until after the New Year (or equally if your working to Eastern Orthodox holidays next month)

[VZ_342]

Try it with the updated F-5 disabled. My experience was the update would give me anywhere from 25-45 fps on my system (triple screen, with a dozen mods, SP), and after disabling the FPS went to 75-90 (capped at 90).

[SparrowLT]

Something is horribly wrong with the F-5

 

not only the FPS fell horribly.. i cant play with it online.. game just freezes when trying , more than freeze it becames unresponsibe and updates at literally  1 FRAME every 40 seconds ..i can if load any other plane

Edited December 30, 2024 by SparrowLT

[Wim1976]

Same here. Most significant with the F5-E, but also with other modules. (I do not own the Mirage or some other modules)

[BIGNEWY]

10 hours ago, SparrowLT said:

Something is horribly wrong with the F-5

 

not only the FPS fell horribly.. i cant play with it online.. game just freezes when trying , more than freeze it becames unresponsibe and updates at literally  1 FRAME every 40 seconds ..i can if load any other plane

F-5E FPS issue has been reported, it does not seem to happen for everyone but we should have a fix in the next patch 

thank you 

[Bulldogg]

@ED - what is the status and timeline to correct this issue?  It is slaughtering frame rates and use-ability of this module.

 

Thanks for the news.

Edited January 2 by Bulldogg

[trindade]

+1

[YoYo]

14 minutes ago, Bulldogg said:

@ED - what is the status and timeline to correct this issue?  It is slaughtering frame rates and use-ability of this module.

 

Thanks for the news.

Apparently this doesn't happen to everyone (although I haven't seen anyone who says they don't have this issue with the Remastered version), so it's hard to say. Some of the team will be on holiday soon, so it may take longer.

[Bucic]

Just now, YoYo said:

Apparently this doesn't happen to everyone (although I haven't seen anyone who says they don't have this issue with the Remastered version), so it's hard to say. Some of the team will be on holiday soon, so it may take longer.

I don't have to do it because I skipped the update but can't DCS updates be rolled back by the user?