Black Shark 2 Released

[Boberro]

Dude, stop spamming...espacially with FC3...:D (the spamming was a joke...)

No, honestly. I dont want to have A FC3, this would mean the next Module to be released within the next Century, I am already 35 Years old now , and want to see the one or other fast mover over the skies of the DCSverse...while I am alive :pilotfly:

 

:D

 

Look at that in this way - in 30 years you will be retired = a lot of free time. Knowing German pensioners they don't have to worry about anything. In meantime ED is developing new crafts.

 

The way it is just FC3 has to be. Question is not IF, question is WHEN ^^

[kylania]

A few more screen shots would be nice before I part with my $20 and if anyone has time could the make a better change log (more details). From what I'm reading at the moment I'll most likely wait for the next A10c update but as Wags always quotes:

" EVERYTHING IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE"

 

A few more screen shots:

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3424393/BlackShark2.html#Post3424393

[Grimes]

 

:huh: Oh really? You should have a closer look at the changelog then. There is a considerable amount of dev work that happened since 1.1.0.9. Stuff that is not in WH.

 

 

Unless the 1.1.1.0 A-10C patch will have a price associated with it we will still get additional functionality, features, and bugfixes all through (so far) free patches after our initial purchase of WH. Aside from the features directly related to the aircraft of the Ka-50, people who have purchased DCS:A-10C already have access to much of the "new" content of BS2. Now this is a fairly similar situation compared to FC2 and BS when they became compatible. However the argument then was that these are two separate IPs and thus they must remain separate, which is logical. Now we have two games belonging to the same IP (DCS) and we must pay to keep em compatible, whereas two separate IPs were compatible for free. Isn't that odd?

[sparchy]

Upgrade to BS2 can't find BSD 1

 

Just downloaded the BS2 patch and purchased the serial key. I went to install it and it comes up right away and says it can not find BS1 and that's as far as it goes. Moved the patch install and bin files to the ka-50 folder and still same result. What am I doing wrong?

[ALDEGA]

Just downloaded the BS2 patch and purchased the serial key. I went to install it and it comes up right away and says it can not find BS1 and that's as far as it goes. Moved the patch install and bin files to the ka-50 folder and still same result. What am I doing wrong?

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1317962&postcount=4

[159th_Viper]

Just downloaded the BS2 patch and purchased the serial key. I went to install it and it comes up right away and says it can not find BS1 and that's as far as it goes. Moved the patch install and bin files to the ka-50 folder and still same result. What am I doing wrong?

 

You have a clean install of BS1 (1.0) duly activated?

 

Ninja'd

[kylania]

Aside from the features directly related to the aircraft of the Ka-50, people who have purchased DCS:A-10C already have access to much of the "new" content of BS2.

 

Umm.. that's exactly the point of the $20. Adding those features to Black Shark wasn't easy. A lot of work had to go into BS to make it as "DCS" as A-10C is now.

 

However, we now have two aircraft at the same base technology level so presumably patches for one should apply to the other? Hopefully? That's really the kicker here. If ED can keep the code base for A-10C and BS compatible, then when we add the next module maybe we won't have to pay?

 

If the EDGE expansion works for BS2 will be the next big milestone in the DCS project. If we have to pay for that to work with BS2, then yeah, all this paranoid rambling will have been justified. If not, then we're sitting pretty for the next DCS aircraft.

[LostOblivion]

What surprises me is how the team managed to keep this a secret. I imagine Wags threatening with firing people if they mentioned it lol!

[audax]

Viper, why are you so rude? You really do bite like a snake at everyone who dares to criticise Eagle Dynamics, even if it is constructive criticism. Your "SHUT UP OR **** OFF"-attitude is not very helpful in this discussion. Either you say something constructive or you should be at least quiet and polite.

 

I really don't worry about these 20$, but I am worried about Eagles design decisions and really hope that the Warthog-engine is much more modular and they can now built upon it.

Please don't screw it up, Eagle Dynamics, please don't. Modularise it, this time for real, add DLC stuff for more income. We are fans, we are mostly fine with giving you money, we just don't want only 1 monolithic sim every 3 or more years that's giving you another nightmare when you port the last "modules" to the next engine.

Edited November 3, 2011 by audax

[sobek]

What surprises me is how the team managed to keep this a secret. I imagine Wags threatening with firing people if they mentioned it lol!

 

That's all it takes :)

[Boberro]

What surprises me is how the team managed to keep this a secret. I imagine Wags threatening with firing people if they mentioned it lol!

 

Secret? Russian section always know a long time before English.:)

[Cali]

Those screens at SimHQ look good, I may have to buy it sooner then I thought. Depends on if this Cougar works or not and if I have time inbetween Falcon and FC2.

 

EDIT: That's true Bob, been like that for a long time.

[Griffin]

Oh hey, was anything done to the flight model? There was lots of discussion about it before release.

[empeck]

Viper, why are you so rude? You really do bite like a snake at everyone who dares to criticise Eagle Dynamics, even if it is constructive criticism. You "SHUT UP OR **** OFF"-attitude is not very helpful in this discussion. Either you say something constructive or you should be at least quiet and polite.

 

I really don't worry about these 20$, but I am worried about Eagles design decisions and really hope that the Warthog-engine is much more modular and they can now built upon it.

Please don't screw it up, Eagle Dynamics, please don't. Modularise it, this time for real, add DLC stuff for more income. We are fans, we are mostly fine with giving you money, we just don't want only 1 monolithic sim every 3 or more years that's giving you another nightmare when you port the last "modules" to the next engine.

 

+1

 

My point exactly.

[ZaltysZ]

Is there a changelog somewhere? Not the one about new features like in 1st post, but the one about bug fixes. :)

[159th_Viper]

Viper, why are you so rude? You really do bite like a snake at everyone who dares to criticise Eagle Dynamics, even if it is constructive criticism. Your "SHUT UP OR **** OFF"-attitude is not very helpful in this discussion. Either you say something constructive or you should be at least quiet and polite.

 

If you have a problem with the moderation of these boards then contact one of the Community managers via PM and state your case. Until then, consider this a friendly yet final warning regarding the tone of your posts. Oh yes - you might want to have due regard to the forum rules, specifically as in your instance, rules 1.3 and 1.4 ;)

[BrumTx]

Is there a changelog somewhere? Not the one about new features like in 1st post, but the one about bug fixes. :)

 

+ 1 bump

And more screen shots already looked at everything up to post 475.

 

Thanks :)

[PeterP]

...should I really read trough 477 posts made in 10 hours to get the info about undocumented changes...?!

No way...!! - I will just Buy and Download BS2 to get the full picture!

Thanks ED!

[Insanatrix]

...should I really read trough 477 posts made in 10 hours to get the info about undocumented changes...?!

No way...!! - I will just Buy and Download BS2 to get the full picture!

Thanks ED!

 

No really read through the 477 posts, it's worth it.

[Tucano_uy]

I haven't read "collidable trees" yet. Something must be wrong.

[PeterP]

No really read through the 477 posts, it's worth it.

 

Nahh ...- I will use my common sense to get trough the installation - and I'm very sure that Post #1 will be updated with a FAQ for the "average Joe" when Wags have a overview what can be done to screw the installation up.

[Insanatrix]

Nahh ...- I will use my common sense to get trough the installation - and I'm very sure that Post #1 will be updated with a FAQ for the "average Joe" when Wags have a overview what can be done to screw the installation up.

 

Trust me that's not why you want to read through it.

[Mustur]

Nahh ...- I will use my common sense to get trough the installation - and I'm very sure that Post #1 will be updated with a FAQ for the "average Joe" when Wags have a overview what can be done to screw the installation up.

 

Just make sure you uninstall BS patch 1.02 and have BS version 1.00 installed prior to installing BS2.

[PeterP]

Trust me that's not why you want to read through it.

As much I can understand you and some others that have this kind of agenda...

But I also share the opinion that a software-company is no charity project.

And if they make a decision - it is their decision -Point-

[BaD CrC]

I haven't read "collidable trees" yet. Something must be wrong.

 

Eh eh, I was asking myself the same thing. Don't know if it is the case with A10C today. If not, then we will most likely still being shot by ennemis with super see-through powers!