Cali Posted January 25, 2012 Posted January 25, 2012 Nice video Mikoyan, loved watching it, but still doesn't change my mind. It would be awesome to hear what he would say about flying in a 16. Flying it feels like it's a part of you, like an extension of your body. i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED
Alicatt Posted January 25, 2012 Posted January 25, 2012 'Not enough'. A bunch of .50 API's raining down on your armor from above will mess up almost anything. I'll point out that this is close to the size of the A-10's API subcaliber penetrators. Of course the .50's won't be quite as powerful, but a Shilka isn't a T-80, and that pony can put out a LOT of .50. The Shilka's turret is only 9.5mm thick and the hull is 15mm thick. The SLAP .50 is good up to 35mm RHAe. There are many types of 50 cal amunition from ball to HEIAP (High Explosive Incendiary Armour Piercing like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raufoss_Mk_211) so it depends on what mix of ammo the ED allow us to have for the 6 .50s While the P51D is not my favorite aircraft I guess I will still get it and wait for something I like better to come along. A Westland Whirlwind please :) single seat twin engine fighter/ground atack with 4 20mm cannons in the nose http://www.whirlwindfighterproject.org/ Sons of Dogs, Come Eat Flesh Clan Cameron
tintifaxl Posted January 25, 2012 Posted January 25, 2012 I don't think the BF-109 is a match for the Mustang. I'd like to see a La-9 or FW 190 D as an adversary. Maybe even an early Soviet jet? Windows 10 64bit, Intel i9-9900@5Ghz, 32 Gig RAM, MSI RTX 3080 TI, 2 TB SSD, 43" 2160p@1440p monitor.
ED Team Groove Posted January 25, 2012 ED Team Posted January 25, 2012 Finally i will be able to shoot GG down in a dogfight! Our Forum Rules: http://forums.eagle.ru/rules.php#en
71st_Mastiff Posted January 25, 2012 Posted January 25, 2012 I really don't get why some of you are complaining. Let's remember the facts. 1. The development of the P51D is NOT conflicting with development of ED's next jet. 2. No one is FORCING you to fly the P51. 3. No one is FORCING you to buy the P51. The P51 isn't even THAT old, it was retired in 1984, the A10 was introduced in 1977. There is an overlap. The P51 is a capable plane and I think it's great that ED are expanding their range of aircraft available. not to mention a good testing for aerodynamics in the Sim. :thumbup: "any failure you meet, is never a defeat; merely a set up for a greater come back", W Forbes. "Success is not final, failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts", "He who never changes his mind, never changes anything," Winston Churchill. MSI z690 MPG DDR4 || i9-14900k|| ddr4-64gb PC3200 |zotac RTX 5080|Game max 1300w|Win11| |turtle beach elite pro 5.1|| ViRpiL,T50cm2||MFG Crosswinds|| VT50CM-plus rotor Throttle || Z10 RGB EVGA Keyboard/ G502LogiMouse || PiMax Crystal VR || 32 Asus||
monotwix Posted January 25, 2012 Posted January 25, 2012 Finally i will be able to shoot GG down in a dogfight! I’ll have to wait for that until some other release. Unless catfight is aloud. I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully.
Vekkinho Posted January 25, 2012 Posted January 25, 2012 Wow, over 900 posts within 4 days... I can't remember any thread like this one! I guess Stang is a major hit... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Mt5_Roie Posted January 25, 2012 Posted January 25, 2012 What about an A-10C vs a P51. In a guns only match I think the P51 could probably out-turn and out speed an A-10C. The A-10C would have the advantage of the computer system for calculating bullet trejectory and the incredible amount of armor on it....I think it would be an interesting match. Old vs Newish Coder - Oculus Rift Guy - Court Jester
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ED Team Groove Posted January 25, 2012 ED Team Posted January 25, 2012 Dora or Schwalbe if i could choose. Our Forum Rules: http://forums.eagle.ru/rules.php#en
Mandrake5 Posted January 25, 2012 Posted January 25, 2012 Wow, over 900 posts within 4 days... I can't remember any thread like this one! I guess Stang is a major hit... Well, that's one possibility.... sigh.
andysim Posted January 25, 2012 Posted January 25, 2012 im sure the A-10c engines are still vunerable same as most aircraft =) :joystick:
Mt5_Roie Posted January 25, 2012 Posted January 25, 2012 True, but we at least have two of them. And they are pretty well protected as well. Coder - Oculus Rift Guy - Court Jester
159th_Viper Posted January 25, 2012 Posted January 25, 2012 True, but we at least have two of them. And they are pretty well protected as well. You get one shot to pieces, you aren't going anywhere - The Mustang will pick you apart from there :D Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
sobek Posted January 25, 2012 Posted January 25, 2012 True, but we at least have two of them. And they are pretty well protected as well. Yeah, because when has thin sheet metal ever been breached by a .50BMG bullet? :lol: Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
RobbySpike Posted January 25, 2012 Posted January 25, 2012 I think its all about the hog coming first into a firing position. It will just saw the Mustang in half in a second. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "It's a good landing, if you can still get the doors open"
sobek Posted January 25, 2012 Posted January 25, 2012 I think its all about the hog coming first into a firing position. It will just saw the Mustang in half in a second. And vice versa, make no mistake. The mustang may not have the likes of a GAU-8, but 6 .50ies is more than enough to make short work of any airplane in no time (if you hit the right spots). In the A2A arena, the GAU-8 is the epitome of overkill. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
Steel Jaw Posted January 25, 2012 Posted January 25, 2012 I guess Stang is a major hit... No it's a major point of contention and debate. ;) Having said that I plan to purchase it in support of ED. "You see, IronHand is my thing" My specs: W10 Pro, I5/11600K o/c to 4800 @1.32v, 64 GB 3200 XML RAM, Red Dragon 7800XT/16GB, monitor: GIGABYTE M32QC 32" (31.5" Viewable) QHD 2560 x 1440 (2K) 165Hz.
Nobody96 Posted January 25, 2012 Posted January 25, 2012 The cruise speeds and max speeds of the P51D and A10 are basically identical, with the P51D having a slightly faster cruise speed. The A10's rate of climb is twice that of a P51D, but the P51D is overall much more manuaverable. Sounds like a comparison between the N.28 and the Albatross D.Va if you also account for the incredible roll rate of the A-10. So in my opinion it will be a pretty interesting duel of BnZ vs TnB and who will keep his energy longer. so long Mathias My System: Intel Core i7-4770K, Asus ROG Strix RX480 O8G, 24GB Ram
deloy Posted January 25, 2012 Posted January 25, 2012 I am going to buy anything ED releases.....manyyyyyyyyy timesssssssss overrrrrrrrrrrrrrr even if its a washing machine designed to fly!!!! Great work ED and keep up the good work. P51 would be fun!!
Mt5_Roie Posted January 25, 2012 Posted January 25, 2012 I think there is only one way to settle this guys...we wait, we buy, we fly! Coder - Oculus Rift Guy - Court Jester
Eddie Posted January 25, 2012 Posted January 25, 2012 ...if you also account for the incredible roll rate of the A-10. ... The A-10s roll rate, while good, is far from incredible. ;)
Speedbrake Posted January 25, 2012 Posted January 25, 2012 Okay, after reading this threat I am totally confused. Is the release of the P-51D simply a single aircraft flyable in the A-10C, BS2 environment. Or, will it have it's own WWII simulation environment with other AI WWII aircraft?
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted January 25, 2012 ED Team Posted January 25, 2012 P51 v A-10C I have just been sick in my mouth a little . . . . . . . looking forward to flying dog fights P51 V P51 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
GGTharos Posted January 25, 2012 Posted January 25, 2012 Planning on entering any races with it? :D No it's a major point of contention and debate. ;) Having said that I plan to purchase it in support of ED. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
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