What if? 2 same planes different quality.

[jctrnacty]

Lets think its just hypothetical now, we know that coretexdesigns is working on f-18 and VRS will decide they want to make f-18 for DCS too?

 

Does it mean VRS will never get the licence?

 

And what if ED decides to make f-18 all by themselves? What does it mean for coretex?

[Mohamengina]

ED is making the fa/18c and VRS is making the fa/18e.

[Grimes]

Its bound to happen eventually, but my guess/hope is that both versions will coexist within the sim at the same time while the market will dictate which is more popular.

[Cali]

ED is making the fa/18c and VRS is making the fa/18e.

 

We don't know what the next DCS model ed is making yet.

[sobek]

Wags has already stated that this would not be the case in general. So taking into account that there may be some exceptions, 3rd parties are relatively free to design the planes they want.

[Kenan]

I don't think this will ever happen..unless one module is of such a low quality and someone decides to make a better one. It is very unlikely a developer would invest time and resources into making an aircraft that is already available as a module. Unless, as I said, it's modelled poorly.

[Zakatak]

We don't know what the next DCS model ed is making yet.

 

I'm not going to post my list again, but taking everything into account, they are likely making F/A-18C.

[sobek]

It is very unlikely a developer would invest time and resources into making an aircraft that is already available as a module. Unless, as I said, it's modelled poorly.

 

Well, the same thing happens for FSX, so why not?

[Mohamengina]

We don't know what the next DCS model ed is making yet.

 

We have a pretty good idea though. The website registration kind of gave it away.

[Rusty_M]

I presume that mission designers will be able to choose which version of a plane is available in their mission. Ie. they could specify the hypothetical ED F18c or the hypothetical VRS F18C.

 

I think this could be necessary in case there are severe discrepancies, resulting in advantages and disadvantages.

[simtex]

The website registration kind of gave it away.

 

You mean the Domain which was registered by ED?

 

No, I don't think that's too much of a hint. Domains are cheap. If I were ED I'd register any available domain for any product which I _may_ release in the next _years_.

 

I'm still hoping for an DCS:F-16C by ED ...

[Sceptre]

Since there is no chance of a Fulcrum, my wish is the F-16C.

[Boberro]

F-16 :pray:

[RaXha]

I don't think this will ever happen..unless one module is of such a low quality and someone decides to make a better one. It is very unlikely a developer would invest time and resources into making an aircraft that is already available as a module. Unless, as I said, it's modelled poorly.

 

Well in theory several developers could be working on the same aircraft without anyone knowing about it since alot of the time they don't release info until the product is close to release :)

[Outlaw24]

Well in theory several developers could be working on the same aircraft without anyone knowing about it since alot of the time they don't release info until the product is close to release :)

 

I agree but ED would know and probably inform the developer that company "X " is working on the same aircraft/model to prevent a waste of time and resources for that developer.

[BigfootMSR]

It has already been said that multiple developers can release the same type of airframe and that does not exclude DCS from making that same thing either. I cant find the exact quote at the moment. 3rd party development pages have blown up recently.

 

Origionally Posted by Wags: "There appears to be a few misunderstandings of 3rd party aircraft that have lead to some concerns. The primary one being the "watering down" of quality in the DCS brand name. A few points:

 

1- We are very careful about who we allow a license and we have high standards of what we will agree to publish through DCS. If a product is of low quality, it won't be integrated.

 

2- Except for very, very rare cases, one 3rd party choosing to do an aircraft for DCS does not preclude another 3rd party from doing the same aircraft.

 

3- We plan a very clear DCS branding (title) name distinction between Eagle developed DCS aircraft and those of third party. There will be no confusion of who developed the title.

 

Thanks,

Matt "

 

So, in theory, yes, you could have multiple aircraft all from different developers in the same mission. Its my understanding that the *Theoretical Example* DCS F-18, and IRIS f-18 will be listed as separate aircraft in DCS: World.

Edited July 1, 2012 by BigfootMSR

[cichlidfan]

If I may...

 

We have yet to see a single 3rd party aircraft and most likely won't until next year. Does it not strike anyone that it is way too early to fret about this stuff. Assuming it is worth worrying about in the first place.

 

Btw, FSX does not seem to have suffered from more that one vendor making the same aircraft.

Edited July 1, 2012 by cichlidfan

[Pikey]

Does it not strike anyone that it is way too early to fret about this stuff

It strikes me exactly thus. The day we can roll around in the luxury of competition at release point then this question will finally be worth asking.

[SUBS17]

In mp it won't be noticeable to those that do not have such an addon as the aircraft should still function identically. But for those purchasing an addon we could wind up with FC level aircraft released in a short period of time and another developer could create a DCS level addon which would be more expensive but have all the extra features that the aircraft or vehicle has IRL. I think this is possible in DCS.

[rextar]

If I may...

 

We have yet to see a single 3rd party aircraft and most likely won't until next year. Does it not strike anyone that it is way too early to fret about this stuff. Assuming it is worth worrying about in the first place.

 

Btw, FSX does not seem to have suffered from more that one vendor making the same aircraft.

 

To the point.

If it doesnt live upto what DCS except in a sim,it dont get in.

As we should all agree.

[Zakatak]

If you guys want the F-16C, why not get FreeFalcon or BMS Falcon? Graphics, interface, and flight model aside, they beat DCS in most areas. I haven't played Falcon 4 myself, but a friend of mine refuses to buy DCS because it lacks a dynamic campaign. They must be pretty damn good. I'd rather get the Charlie Hornet, because it is balanced with other DCS modules and Lock On aircraft, and it hasn't really been done before. Every other Hornet simulator has been for the Superbug, and I don't like the Superbug as much (Canadian bias). The FSX Hornet doesn't simulate the experience very well, as far as I'm concerned.

 

I think ED would prevent 2 modders from creating the same aircraft if both fall under quality control standards.

[SUBS17]

We all have BMS, theres room for both F-16C and Hornet in DCS.

[Snoopy]

If you guys want the F-16C, why not get FreeFalcon or BMS Falcon? Graphics, interface, and flight model aside, they beat DCS in most areas. I haven't played Falcon 4 myself, but a friend of mine refuses to buy DCS because it lacks a dynamic campaign.

 

Because people want to fly a 16 in the DCS environment...

 

Nothing against BMS, they’ve done great work but I am sick of hearing about the Dynamic Campaign. That dead horse has been beaten so much there isn't anything left

[Weltensegler]

If you guys want the F-16C, why not get FreeFalcon or BMS Falcon? Graphics, interface, and flight model aside, they beat DCS in most areas.

:) these are pretty important aspects you mention there.

You basically saying BMS is that good (and I'm not arguing that) you can switch you monitor off and just fly instruments with you helios setup and some displays exported.

Yeah true, I might do that...rather than getting eye cancer from that minecraft environment.

 

2- Except for very, very rare cases, one 3rd party choosing to do an aircraft for DCS does not preclude another 3rd party from doing the same aircraft.

Yes means we get all different types of the F18 ...awesome.

I want the ED (F18C) one.

Yes, Cali we "know" :)

Edited July 2, 2012 by Weltensegler

[Pyroflash]

In mp it won't be noticeable to those that do not have such an addon as the aircraft should still function identically.

 

It won't function identically. Depending on the code and how the aircraft communicate with each other, the functionality of one developer's aircraft versus that of the same model aircraft developed by a different party, could be vastly different. Especially if the aircraft in question is something akin to an F-16C. Then, not only will we have to deal with developers' perceptions being different, but the physical makes of the real aircraft will also differ to some significant degree based on which version of F-16C Blk 50/52 the sim is modeled off of.

 

**For the sake of keeping this simple, I am precluding the possibility that developers will attempt to make a F-16A,B,D,V,K,I,S, etc. Blk. 30 or 60.**

Edited July 2, 2012 by Pyroflash