LostOblivion Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 I'm a little disappointed that we won't see the MiG-29 and Su-33 in Flaming Cliffs 3 get updated models and cockpits as well. It is ED's last chance of updating these aircraft in the FC series. Especially the MiG-29. But this also gives sense to the idea that they are going to make DCS: MiG-29. :) Nice plane on that gun... OS764 P930@4 MBUD3R M6GB G5870 SSDX25 CAntec1200 HTMHW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Gotta leave something for 3rd Parties to do........ Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
104th_Crunch Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 I'm a little disappointed that we won't see the MiG-29 and Su-33 in Flaming Cliffs 3 get updated models and cockpits as well. It is ED's last chance of updating these aircraft in the FC series. Especially the MiG-29. But this also gives sense to the idea that they are going to make DCS: MiG-29. :) Yes, in a perfect world the 29/33 would be updated. ED have already put more work in to this than originally planned due to customer demand. If they kept at it right now, FC would still take a long while to come out. They need to move on IMO and start work on the next DCS module. While the FC update is excellent and worth every penny to me, we need NEW blood. Yup, 3rd parties can come in and take up some of the work. Would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Although i have a great deal of appreciation for ed's work,and at the moment i own every product ED has marketed and will continue to buy them as they get released,sometimes i question myself: why do the a10 a cockpit when you have DCS A-10C ? why make great models for A-50, E3, An-26B, An-30M, E-2D, E-3C and leave the su33,f16,mig29 just to name a few with the old ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimes Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 why do the a10 a cockpit when you have DCS A-10C ? why make great models for A-50, E3, An-26B, An-30M, E-2D, E-3C and leave the su33,f16,mig29 just to name a few with the old ones? 1. DCS A-10C actually started out as an A-10A+. So a decent amount of work was probably already done on the A-10A cockpit before ED got permission to utilize the A-10C they made for the Air National Guard contract. 2. I don't know the entire rational for choosing to make a new model for object X instead of object Y, aside from the fact that new models were needed anyways for those aircraft. The right man in the wrong place makes all the difference in the world. Current Projects: Grayflag Server, Scripting Wiki Useful Links: Mission Scripting Tools MIST-(GitHub) MIST-(Thread) SLMOD, Wiki wishlist, Mission Editing Wiki!, Mission Building Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandrake5 Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Changelog looks superb, looking forward to resuming air combat....but once bitten twice shy :( (Please please please ensure that AA missiles work better now, and especially that the aim-120 has a higher PK than a jar of Marmite :) ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger66 Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 I been away for a few days , just seen this , looks good . Any word as to when this will be released ? A normal answer will do ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Within 7 days.. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoot Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 why do the a10 a cockpit when you have DCS A-10C ? You have, someone else doesn't. Remember that FC is an easier game and many don't need the fidelity of A-10C. Which is another 40 bucks to spend. I've already noted it twice: in FC3 we now have 2 6DOF-pits planes per each side: a fighter and a ground-assault. That is why the A-10A cockpit is needed. MSI Z77A-G43 MOBO - Intel Core i5-3470 / oc.3,8 GHz (Zalman CNPS10X Performa) - MSI GTX 970 GAMING 4G - Kingston HyperX Predator 8GB 2400 MHz - ATX Corsair TX 750W PSU - HDD Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB - HDD Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB - SSD OCZ Vertex 3 120GB - Aerocool XPredator - Saitek X52 Pro - Saitek Rudder Pedals - Saitek Throttle Quadrant - TrackIR 5 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkwolf Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 That is usefull for old-style scenario. The A-10C is a really boring aircraft. . . You see stuff, and you blew it up. The A-10A is really really more challenging. Thus i prefer DCS level of realism, i find it more challenging (and appealing) to fly the -A version, because it's damn challenging to find target and shot them down, in comparison of the -C. 6DOF cockpit will help as you'll be able to slighly lean inside the cockpit and gain some more sight on what's happening under. In fact, 6DOF is needed for the A10A more than it's actually used in A10C with its s****load of electronics sensors. I would kill for a DCS-A10-A. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] PC simulator news site. Also....Join the largest DCS community on Facebook :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenan Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 ^^Well, I guess that makes you a .. ..lone killer. :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Commanding Officer of: 2nd Company 1st financial guard battalion "Mrcine" See our squads here and our . Croatian radio chat for DCS World Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJoel Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Some would suggest just leaving the Litening II AT off the plane if you want more of a challenge. The targeting pod is not mandatory. I often fly without it to get more practice using the old reliable MK I eyeball. That is usefull for old-style scenario. The A-10C is a really boring aircraft. . . You see stuff, and you blew it up. The A-10A is really really more challenging. Thus i prefer DCS level of realism, i find it more challenging (and appealing) to fly the -A version, because it's damn challenging to find target and shot them down, in comparison of the -C. 6DOF cockpit will help as you'll be able to slighly lean inside the cockpit and gain some more sight on what's happening under. In fact, 6DOF is needed for the A10A more than it's actually used in A10C with its s****load of electronics sensors. I would kill for a DCS-A10-A. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENO Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 I often fly without it to get more practice using the old reliable MK I eyeball. After reading A-10s over Kosovo and Warthog, I find myself muttering "I wish I had binoculars" each time I'm orbiting an area looking for targets. Zoom is what it is, but it's not quite the same. As written in "A-10s over Kosovo:" Even with all this high-tech help, we still located about 80 percent of the targets we engaged using our Mk-1 eyeballs, augmented by our trusty 12-power gyrostabilized binoculars. I know this isn't the first time it's been brought up and I don't mean for it to be entirely off topic- I still like to have a TGP onboard even if it doesn't come out of standby mode... which would happen more often if I had a pair of "trusty 12-power gyrostabilized binoculars." "ENO" Type in anger and you will make the greatest post you will ever regret. "Sweetest's" Military Aviation Art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andysim Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 you know there is a game in Japan that involves playing football while wearing binoculars. It would be fun to make a mission that also requires Binos for the entire time =0 :) Just so you dont think im talking crazy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rRK7vlBG8A 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
159th_Viper Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 After reading A-10s over Kosovo and Warthog, I find myself muttering "I wish I had binoculars" each time I'm orbiting an area looking for targets. Zoom is what it is, but it's not quite the same. You can tweak the zoom values to more closely approximate the 12x binos - that works fairly well and aids nicely in target ID. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom88 Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 ^^Great Idea^^ Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ich666 Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 After reading A-10s over Kosovo and Warthog, I find myself muttering "I wish I had binoculars" each time I'm orbiting an area looking for targets. Zoom is what it is, but it's not quite the same. As written in "A-10s over Kosovo:" Even with all this high-tech help, we still located about 80 percent of the targets we engaged using our Mk-1 eyeballs, augmented by our trusty 12-power gyrostabilized binoculars. I know this isn't the first time it's been brought up and I don't mean for it to be entirely off topic- I still like to have a TGP onboard even if it doesn't come out of standby mode... which would happen more often if I had a pair of "trusty 12-power gyrostabilized binoculars." He might be talking about mavericks here, im not sure if the TGP was already in use at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DBS]TH0R Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Any word on the wingtip smoke being put back in? P8Z68 | 2500k @ 4.5 | GTX 1080Ti | 2x8 GB @ 1600 | TM Hog (extended 7cm) & MFG Crosswind (S/N 007) | TIR v5 WWII bomber formations | DCS P-51D: [TEST] TO distance / gross weight / temperature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimeKilla Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 After reading A-10s over Kosovo and Warthog, I find myself muttering "I wish I had binoculars" each time I'm orbiting an area looking for targets. Zoom is what it is, but it's not quite the same. As written in "A-10s over Kosovo:" Even with all this high-tech help, we still located about 80 percent of the targets we engaged using our Mk-1 eyeballs, augmented by our trusty 12-power gyrostabilized binoculars. I know this isn't the first time it's been brought up and I don't mean for it to be entirely off topic- I still like to have a TGP onboard even if it doesn't come out of standby mode... which would happen more often if I had a pair of "trusty 12-power gyrostabilized binoculars." Look at the price m8 might be waiting awhile. :thumbup: http://www.botachtactical.com/fujstab12xpo.html :joystick: YouTube :pilotfly: TimeKilla on Flight Sims over at YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamblue Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 you know there is a game in Japan that involves playing football while wearing binoculars. It would be fun to make a mission that also requires Binos for the entire time =0 :) Just so you dont think im talking crazy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rRK7vlBG8A Funny stuff. Asus Sabertooth P67 Motherboard 2600k CPU, 16 gig DDR3, 1600. Samsung 830, 256 gig hard drive, GTX780 Video Card, Warthog Hotas, Razer Mamba mouse. Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals. Trackir 5, Verizon FIOS 25Meg Up/Down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71st_Mastiff Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 did they fix the CBU97's in FC3 they still deploy right when they drop instead of gliding over the target then parachute in? " any failure you meet, is never a defeat; merely a set up for a greater come back, " W Forbes "Success is not final, failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts," Winston Churchill " He who never changes his mind, never changes anything," MSI z690MPG DDR4 || i914900k|| ddr4-64gb PC3200 || MSI RTX 4070Ti|Game1300w|Win10x64| |turtle beach elite pro 5.1|| ViRpiL,T50cm2|| MFG Crosswinds|| VT50CM-plus rotor Throttle || G10 RGB EVGA Keyboard/MouseLogitech || PiMax Crystal VR || 32 Samsung|| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K2mil Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I hope they would look into the corrupted shadows http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=104476 INTEL CORE I7 6700K ASUS ROG MAXIMUS VIII HERO ASUS ROG GTX1080Ti Strix OC 16GB @ 4100 MHz |CORSAIR Intel 730 SSD 240GB Corsair 850 W Modular PSU Corsair Obsidian 650d Logitech X-56 HOTAS ,Saitek X-65F HOTAS, Pro Ruder Pedals, Pro Flight Instrument Panel NP TrackIr 5 Pro Windows 10 PRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratfink Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I see in the change log, there's no mention of a fix for the F-15C landing bug. The one where the undercarriage appears to not matter http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1730044&postcount=33 Fractal Define R4 Case | Core i7-9700K @ 4.9GHz| 64GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200MHz | Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro Wifi | Gigabyte RTX3080 Gaming OC 12GB | 250GB Samsung 850 EVO SSD (OS) | 1TB Samsung 860 EVO SSD (DCS) | 2TB Samsung 860 EVO SSD (Steam library) | 1TB WD Caviar Black HDD | Corsair 750W Gold PSU | Corsair H60 Hydro Series CPU Cooler | [TrackIR 5 unused] | Meta Quest Pro | TM HOTAS Warthog | Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals | Win 10 Home 64-bit | Asus PG348Q 34" 3440x1440 Monitor | Bose Companion 3 2.1 Sound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApoNOOB Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 ^Would be wonderful if that can be fixed with 1.2.4... :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENO Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 (edited) He might be talking about mavericks here, im not sure if the TGP was already in use at that time. Bit of a misunderstanding- the last bit of my quote that you have in italics wasn't... that was me saying that about the sim. Where do we tweak the zoom feature? Anyone done that already with success and have a mod for it? you know there is a game in Japan that involves playing football while wearing binoculars. It would be fun to make a mission that also requires Binos for the entire time =0 :) Just so you dont think im talking crazy I am a different person now having watched that video. That is outrageous! Edited April 21, 2013 by ENO "ENO" Type in anger and you will make the greatest post you will ever regret. "Sweetest's" Military Aviation Art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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