New FM update

[cichlidfan]

Yes, this is better. I still can't truly hover, but I can hang around in a fairly small area.

 

I was also actually able to hit and destroy a fuel truck and a command post with one or two rockets each. :D:thumbup:

[dikkeduif]

So, should I eventually buy this sucka mutha ****a? I've been hesitating so far, mainly because I've been reading your experiences (SOOO HARD TO LAND AND FLY OMG!!!) and waiting for the promised new FM to arrive.

 

Should I buy NOW? I have TM HOTAS Warthog (too stiff??) + Saitek Combat Pedals (center detent causes trouble?) + TrackIR 5. :confused: :joystick:

 

What are you waiting for? :) Yes, NOW!

[Suchacz]

Yesterday was late :thumbup:

[ARM505]

It definitely feels better, less 'random'. I wouldn't worry about people commenting on how easy it is, it's still properly challenging for a precise hover and approach to confined/small spots! See how fast you can hop from building to building (been doing that more than playing missions I confess - look at me, I'm a corporate heli pilot!)

 

Like the initial Mustang release with it's crazy yaw sensitivity on take off, 'realistic' doesn't equal 'uncontrollably difficult'!

[wess24m]

See how fast you can hop from building to building (been doing that more than playing missions I confess - look at me, I'm a corporate heli pilot!)

 

That would be pretty good training actually, good idea. Oh the mission ideas are flying. DCS: Digital Charter pilot Simulator. :smartass:

[Suchacz]

ARM505 - Answer to your signature: they already are :smilewink:

 

...but Mixture is called Engine RPM setting and Throttle is called Corrector.

Edited May 15, 2013 by Suchacz

[tusler]

I hear a lot talking about how Easy it is.

Well at least now I can land it on the numbers...:poster_oops:

[Suchacz]

New FM feels more dampened, with better feel of inertia and with a little delay between control input and helo response. And i think that is right. And I think, that the influence of TLE on climbing tendency is little decreased.

 

Previous model was way too... let's say... nervous.

Edited May 15, 2013 by Suchacz

[HuggyBear]

The current FM is indeed very close to the real thing now, although we'll continue to provide feedback to the devs and hopefully it will get even better. :)

 

The real Huey is quite docile (compared to other helicopters), the real trick is handling her when she gets close to her limits, especially when fast, heavy, high density altitude and flown tactically.

 

- Bear

[dahui]

Due to the big Stabilizer, its heavy Blades and the "Heavy" Cell, the Huey is pretty Stable... You can compare it to an RC Helicopter without that Flybarless Crap...

 

The Bigger a Helo is, the better is its stability. Welcome to the physics guys ;) :p

 

I will try it out. Thanks!

[TurboHog]

Good to hear that this is realistic! Now the fun can really begin! :)

 

Shame that our doubts about the new FM are referred to as 'whiny'. There is no way to miss the point even more and the use of the word 'whiny' should be replaced by the word 'critical' at the very least. Thank you.

[hreich]

I like this new FM, i can finally stop fighting with controls :)

[dahui]

ive forgot on more thing

 

Keep in mind. When they say, that theyre working with real pilots, then i trust them.

99% Of the failures "not able to hover" "not able to fly" issues, is because of the problem between your ears ;) (We, in our company say that so, its not a personal attack)

For example, i havent any problems with the huey... after an hour or so hard training, ive got it... Landing where i want etc.

 

Its like in real life... when you have flown hundrets of hours with a Jetranger, and the go to the AS350... you gonna have a Bad time ;) :D

 

Im not a RL Pilot, im a Maint. Trainee, PCA etc... I have about 10hours JR, 2hrs Huhges 300 and 7 ****ing Minutes LAMA! (Best minutes ever in a Helo! :D)

[ARM505]

ARM505 - Answer to your signature: they already are :smilewink:

 

...but Mixture is called Engine RPM setting and Throttle is called Corrector.

 

OT, sorry guys, but thanks Suchacz. The Huey throttle is indeed called 'Corrector' in the axis menu!

 

But the P51 mixture is still buttons only - the engine RPM setting axis is as it says, for the RPM setting, not the mixture.

 

Thanks!

[Skulleader]

Hello,

 

With the New update 1.2.4.12179.160 the FM is more perfect, now it's a real pleasure to fly with the Huey.

My take off and landing are more perfect with my HOTAS TM Warthog, congratulation for this update...

 

Best regards, Skull.

[genbrien]

+1 congrats for the new FM.

Still a challenge to master, but I was able to land twice, back-to-back, on the runway numbers.

Yay!!!

[element1108]

So, should I eventually buy this sucka mutha ****a? I've been hesitating so far, mainly because I've been reading your experiences (SOOO HARD TO LAND AND FLY OMG!!!) and waiting for the promised new FM to arrive.

 

Should I buy NOW? I have TM HOTAS Warthog (too stiff??) + Saitek Combat Pedals (center detent causes trouble?) + TrackIR 5. :confused: :joystick:

 

Honestly ... Buy it...if you like choppers you will love it. So much fun to fly. Learning it is the best. Expect a learning curve but its hardly impossible. :pilotfly::thumbup:

[hreich]

Just once again - I like new FM !!!!

Bravo ED/BELSIMTEK

[YorZor]

Oh man this makes a difference! Well done! Can finally fly without curves and it feels so much more stable!

[Rogue Trooper]

Transition From forward flight to hover did seem to be very Violent on the original FM. The new FM seems to have added better weight and inertia to the choppa.

Manoeuvrability has reduced which I think feels more right for a utility helicopter (not that I have any experience).

The old FM however, was good fun.

[J7G]

After a few hours in this today (I knew being sick would come in handy) I have found myself a much better killing machine than I was with the old FM.

[Mt5_Roie]

I flew the updated FM last night and found it pleasant. I was able to hover nicely and transition to foward flight easily.

 

I did have some issues landing initially. The transition to hover was a little off so I had to modify the collective lift to compensate. So after a little practice I was able to make the transitions better. Once in a hover I was able to stay in a hover a lot easier.

 

So overall I like the new FM.

[wolle]

I checked your track. Watched it once and flew it once, looks like the slip indicator is lying to you a little bit. I checked this by getting to speed (120/80/60 knots) and flew down the runway 3 times respectively to the speeds I gave, to check if I was aligned with the centerline. I was able to fly with neutral rudder while overflying the runway whilst being aligned.

 

As was said above, If you're Huey is heavier you'll need more left rudder during liftoff, as you probably already know, or big changes in collective will require rudder work at any speed (which didn't seem to be the issue in your track). Notice when you're generally flying around and you'll see the slip indicator tweak out every once in awhile, I just ignore that as long as there isn't any huge swing to one side or the other for a prolonged time or if the Huey is visually veering to the right or left.

 

In short your flying looks fine to me.

 

Thanks Wess, your help is much appreciated.

[TimeKilla]

Thanks to Belsimtek and one of the real Huey pilots for them statements concerning the FM.

[Fuzzy_bear]

realism in a simulator should trump personal preferences for harder/easier FMs.

 

 

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