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We have more teams now, but they are, for the most part, more specialized. So Another Helicopter would just not be right now as we have a number of them still ongoing. An export Su-27 is possible or other Ru aircraft but focus is on the MiG-29. A Super Hornet will have to wait till after the C is done, etc. Add to that as I said above, DCS needs to move into the future, and the F-35 for the most part has generated a lot of excitement, and so it should.

That is not true, we were allowed much more access for the Ka-50 and A-10C for reasons, we do not always get those accesses, so we still do each and every aircraft to the highest degree possible, as we will do with the F-35, and I will say it will be the most accurate F-35 available. The A-10C is a great example, its not 100% accurate, even with the II version. Nothing modern military will ever be, its just the way it is. But we would not do the F-35 unless we felt we could do it justice in DCS. But here I am again saying the same things to the same comments. I don't know how much more I can give without just saying read the FAQ and follow the development.

Well, some of those are coming via 3rd Party, and on top of all I have said previously already, DCS does need to grow and expand into the future eventually. Cold War is fun, WWII is my favorite, but newer aircraft when the opportunity is there must be grabbed, even if we only get AI equals at first. It's progress. Everything you said is pretty much spot on. As for documentation, if someone were to come to us with what we have on the F-35 before we decided to do it, they would have most likely been given the opportunity, there was already an attempt a while back, as well as a mod. So it's not like it's never been looked at before. The only thing I will say is that we are knocking down a barrier, where we can add better support for the level of aircraft that will only benefit the ability to add others and have an environment more suitable for them. As we said, it is not. The only guess involved is everyone guessing this is all we can do.

Guys, I am trying to keep this open for discussion, but if it's just gonna turn into a fight, I will close it. Please be nice to each other. And if you do not want the F-35 or think we can't do it, then you just need to wait to see as the product develops. Thanks.

We won't be simulating a 2025 operational F-35, so it will be interesting to hear his thoughts when it releases. Thanks.

That might have still been BST days or poor wording from a person who is not an English speaker. But it's not documentation it's the version we are modelling, period. If we decide to do a version that has Mavs one day, it would be possible, but it's simply not planned.

Trust is managed on knowing the facts, the fact is that we never said that we couldn't do AGM-65s on the F-6 because of lack of documentation, but because it was not the variant we are modelling. So in order to trust us, you first have to make sure you understand our reasoning for things. We have stated that we are looking at radios and INS for the F-5 for the version we are modelling. Anything else would be for a different version and would work more for a different variant altogether. So I am not sure what this has to do with trust, but more so a misunderstanding of our reasoning on the reasons for adding something or not. No, you are reading into what I have said. Please read the FAQ and you will know what to expect from the F-35, based on whether you want it or not, if you don't want it, it's okay. Probably not a flyable Su-57, but I see the Redfor side looking brighter all the time.

That is also an aspect people leave out. If we did only aircraft we could model 100% 1:1 we would have a very slim line up, and the Ka-50 and A-10C would not exist.

No, I mean sure, a pack or just added to the sim, whatever works.

Thanks for your feedback, it does mean something to us, but we stand by our ability to make a very good representation of the fighter for DCS. We would not have announced it otherwise. I think AI would be important for interesting missions and campaigns with the F-35, I think its reasonable.

You are assuming we cannot build it with some level of realism, that is not correct. We could also do what you mentioned for the F-5, but would be feature creep and require a different variant (we are looking at the radios and INS). The two things are not the same no matter how you word it, sorry.

The Yak-52 has received some improvements in that time. The Viggen you will need to talk to Heatblur about this, but I am pretty sure its received plenty of fixes and updates in that time. We have done our best to honor as much of that Kickstarter as we could, but it's just not possible. We felt there was many more interesting aircraft to introduce to WWII, the 262 was from the 3rd Party that started that Kickstarter and later folded.

We are not modelling a Japanese version of the F-15C, we are doing the US one, but we did say we could include some liveries for Japan, all this is in the FAQ. Thanks.

Once again, that has nothing to do with being able to model the F-35.

No, Nick has planned on doing a voice over, but him and GA decided it didn't fit the pacing and music. So it was dropped, do not read anything into it. For the rest, not sure what to say, we disagree that we have no competitors, we feel this will expand DCS and help it grow and add new and exciting things. Its just progress and doesn't change many of the other things coming or being worked on. If it was a military contract, which as far as I know it is not, we would not say anything most likely anyway. Our military stuff is separate from DCS. We do not discuss that here.

Send me a DM with the link, I think I did but my brain has crashed 3 times in the last hour

A Super Hornet will most likely happen, but we need to finish the C first before moving to another. Sorry for the short answer to your long question, I am tired

I have a nice HOTAS and a piddle pack.

ATC has a full design doc, but also we now started looking at other cool technologies that have come along, MSFS is doing some cool things here. The Supercarrier is a test bed for better tech, but ATC on land will be a huge task. DTC is in full development, keen eyes would have seen this in one of Wags videos. DC has had a number of dev reports, you should have seen it before the F-35 featured heavily in the video. Many of these things required Multithread and performance improvements, without all that extra overhead we would have crushed performance with a lot of these things. But again, not related to any aircraft development. Voice chat is very cool, and I am not sure why you are ignoring it, but a lot of work went into that and is still being refined. Same with what we have done with weather, its not done but what we have done the team is very proud of and has worked very hard on.

Well we can use the A-10C as an example, which was closer to a study-level sim because of the access we had to it and the fact we were hired to do one for the military. The F-16 or F/A-18C while still very very detailed, we did not have the same access or permissions. So the standards are still the same, but what is achievable could vary depending on the system, model, FM, etc. Even down to WWII aircraft this same thing happens. no, we are not dropping our standards, yes we are making a module that will be one of the most advanced in DCS, when it releases set up your server, you one one side with your F-35 against 50 others in red fighters, and tell me how you beat everyone. Ru government would not let us make even poor guess at the Su-57, same with the F-22, there is nothing really out there for that. You are not looking at it one an individual aircraft basis, I can't explain it any more basic to you guys.

As I said in the other thread, the guys working on an F-35 would not be doing ATC, DC, Comms, Weather, etc. Even DTC would be more a programmer with a design doc than a aircraft specialist. Like the F-35 or not, think we can do it or not, its not hurting anything we have planned in those other areas. You can get mad about thinking we cant pull it off, but you cant get mad thinking its blocking ATC or other things you listed.

Nothing has been lowered, but standards can be different between aircraft, certain aspects of an FM might be tuned to not step on the wrong toes, where as another aircraft we can go full send on it. The -35 is going to be difficult, it will be a lot of work but it will be a good DCS rendition of the F-35, full stop.

Look I don't want to fight with you on this anymore, it would be cool if you wanted to help out with things you could talk about, even testing it might be cool, but you are so negative, and I get it. This is a game, we are making a new product for it, it will be the most realistic F-35 out there, even if it is not near 100%. That is what I have for you, I do not doubt your knowledge and experience with the -35, and that is very cool. But we don't share everything we have, everything we are doing and everything we know or have contacts for. So we can keep going back and forth, or we can wait and see.

The team is happy with the research they have done, and their ability to make a DCS level simulation of the F-35, it will not be 100% accurate, we are not claiming that.

If they put in the work, do the research and can show us they can do it, why not?