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Well we can use the A-10C as an example, which was closer to a study-level sim because of the access we had to it and the fact we were hired to do one for the military. The F-16 or F/A-18C while still very very detailed, we did not have the same access or permissions. So the standards are still the same, but what is achievable could vary depending on the system, model, FM, etc. Even down to WWII aircraft this same thing happens. no, we are not dropping our standards, yes we are making a module that will be one of the most advanced in DCS, when it releases set up your server, you one one side with your F-35 against 50 others in red fighters, and tell me how you beat everyone. Ru government would not let us make even poor guess at the Su-57, same with the F-22, there is nothing really out there for that. You are not looking at it one an individual aircraft basis, I can't explain it any more basic to you guys.

As I said in the other thread, the guys working on an F-35 would not be doing ATC, DC, Comms, Weather, etc. Even DTC would be more a programmer with a design doc than a aircraft specialist. Like the F-35 or not, think we can do it or not, its not hurting anything we have planned in those other areas. You can get mad about thinking we cant pull it off, but you cant get mad thinking its blocking ATC or other things you listed.

Nothing has been lowered, but standards can be different between aircraft, certain aspects of an FM might be tuned to not step on the wrong toes, where as another aircraft we can go full send on it. The -35 is going to be difficult, it will be a lot of work but it will be a good DCS rendition of the F-35, full stop.

Look I don't want to fight with you on this anymore, it would be cool if you wanted to help out with things you could talk about, even testing it might be cool, but you are so negative, and I get it. This is a game, we are making a new product for it, it will be the most realistic F-35 out there, even if it is not near 100%. That is what I have for you, I do not doubt your knowledge and experience with the -35, and that is very cool. But we don't share everything we have, everything we are doing and everything we know or have contacts for. So we can keep going back and forth, or we can wait and see.

The team is happy with the research they have done, and their ability to make a DCS level simulation of the F-35, it will not be 100% accurate, we are not claiming that.

If they put in the work, do the research and can show us they can do it, why not?

Probably read what I said again. Glad to see you have 0 faith in us over someone working on a mod for a week. You are ignoring everything I am saying, so if you are not interested in the F-35, that is fine, but you can let those that are be excited. Its ok, it wont hurt you.

All those things you list, a team working on the F-35 would not do. So while I appreciate the concern over other items in DCS, an aircraft team would not and could not be tasked to do them.

We believe we will be able to create the most realistic F-35 simulation in the flight sim game market, yes. We never declined the Super Hornet, the SH would not happen until the C is done.

Interesting to call something half-baked with no idea what it will look like when it's released. The bar is quite high.

As I said, we cannot share everything we have been doing with this research, but we are confident we can recreate the F-35 to DCS standards.

This is not entirely true, it's not always about documentation while that can be a result of the issues facing red aircraft it's not always the primary blocking issue. You can't get or use documentation if there are stringent laws about recreating certain aircraft. But I have seen that melting in some areas and growing colder in others.

The F-35 should bring improvements to a great many things.

It very well could be, but we never really show all our cards.

I have seen a number of people concerned about that, and it's fine. But at least give us a chance here, we believe we can do it. We will.

It will be like anything, and even the responses you allude to from us, some systems we will be able to do well, some we will be able to do ok, some we may not be able to do hardly at all. As we start development we will see where it all comes out, and share this with you all. I need to continue to stress, research on this aircraft has been going for 2+ years. We would not take this step without a reasonable amount of information being available to do this aircraft.

Nope, you still are not quite getting it. Anyways, if you don't want the F-35 it's ok, I think even those who do not buy it will see benefits from this aircraft for years to come.

I think you may have missed the sarcasm

Maybe, but in a game people want to be so realistic it seems weird to demand balance. Especially when you can add and remove planes from any mission.

I think that was more about who was wanting to do it rather than what he was wanting to do.

Switch sides.

That is your opinion, we do not agree.

I dont know what point you are trying to make, but its not about the F-35 anymore. You are wrong about our use of resources, and has nothing to do with any AAA game companies. Thanks.

You think the resources spent somewhere on something you think you want, as opposed to an F-35, or maybe we need to pile more people on another project that is currently working. Its not how things work and not true. I think such a jet will bring about many new things to DCS, improvements and additions. The F/A-18C is pretty close now. Some of the things left holding it up are based on additions to DCS, like effects, etc. I have no idea on the F-35, most likely similar time frames to the F/A-18C and F-16C.

That is simply not true. You can be not happy about it, doesn't mean someone else isn't happy.