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FC3 planes aren't complex nor clickable...its mostly simplified stuff. C-130 along with clickety cockpit and more seats with Jester like AI would be tough to program. I mean, heatblur is the only separate company to use this feature. I think most are expecting clickable Civilian/Military cargo planes. Not simplified FC3 stuff.

Keeping in mind that its already take VERY long to create single fighter module with two seat and playable at that is already taking almost 2-3 years to finish. I wonder...how they are even going to pull this off...IF they are EVER going to do thing like C-130? They got 4 engine to model and several seat functions and some are asking gunship platform of the C-130 variants, yes and its own specific positions to man. A basic C-130 got 5 crew members and AC-130/Gunships got like 13. So how many seats would they opt for making it function? Some are finding it difficult to make it like Heatblur format F-14 jester AI seater. So that is hell lot of work to commit for. The only feasible seems just one of those C-2 greyhound. Also its just a transport carrier. The only interesting part is the carrier landing part and thats just it. Would ED ever model the E-2 Hawkeye and its complicated radar? Its got a crew of 5...

To decrease the workload and make things faster. Its simply better to opt for just the LATE F-100 version only. It seems most want BOTH... It already takes 2-3 years for a single module to formulate and people voted for that needs even more extra work!:huh:

Provided that they meet the ED standards. Then its a good idea!. So far, we still have those pixelated gimped up AI 3D models that just looks VERY ODD and kills the immersion. An update to those AI 3D models is long overdue. It looks more like ED gives more focus to WW2 AI 3D assets than legacy old AI 3D models.

Hmm...I guess we'll see if it even happens. Time will tell.

Jf-17 Block 3 is still in early test phase. Eurofighter is NOT.

With X Plane 11 and the upcoming competition of MSFS 2020. I highly doubt DCS would invest in Planes like E-2, C-130 and C-2. The sales would be low and it would not be worth the development costs of making those multi-crew. On sales POV, X Plane 11 and MSFS 2020 DON'T have combat planes, at least not on combat duty roles. Only extreme purist simmer would buy... I don't know how they would deal with developing AWACS like E-2 and then multi-crew that along with its radar working. All along with Gunship variants of C-130. The chance of Transport planes in DCS seems low probability. Sales won't be much for all that tough development and multi-crewing that. Also depends on how many engines the said transport plane has.:noexpression: DCS would have much more profit with sticking to combat planes, and its already taking 2-3 years for those. This is what X-Plane 11 and MSFS 2020 DON'T have. Currently, there are only 3 NON combat planes and those aren't complicated planes as they are single crew and mostly trainers with simple engines. Also one of the is FC3 level. And UH-IH plus Mi-8 is combat/transport helo, can carry COMBAT armament. Finally, the maps aren't big enough...

Well then... If it is profitable as you say, and easier to make than combat planes here as you say. Then WHY have the developers NOT made any plans or announcement on those? So far they have NOT shown any indications on those kinda planes....:noexpression: DCS does not HAVE any large maps to make those planes enjoyable to fly...that is one factor out of many. There is X Plane 11 and MSFS 2020 on the competition. They got large maps for these planes and hardly any combat planes or very few. So far...no indications from any of the DCS developers.

Also, if it were that easy as you say...why hasn't any of the devs not made one until now, hmm? Let that sink in for a bit.:smilewink: The majority crowd here is for combat planes...

DCS - Digital COMBAT simulator. Only 2 or 3 planes are not combat oriented, but they are simple and short range models. The maps aren't even big enough... Oh, dont like fighters?...I think X Plane 11 and upcoming MS 2020 is right up their ally. If they like to just do sight seeing and fly around. I wonder why are they in DCS if they dont like fighters...sounds like its just a very few. Majority still loves fighters (at least the DCS folks), period. Rest of those who dont like are doing their rounds at X plane 11 and waiting for MSFS 2020.:noexpression:

What about the crew numbers and modeling that or on how many of those crew/seats to make playable or not?

The F-4E of course!

My realistic expectation since they did say they only got a 15 workers/devs. Maybe 1 and half years from now.

Will the 3D models of Su-30, Mig 25 and Mig 31 be ever updated? I don't see it in the planned roadmap of AI 3D models.

I thought the MLD was more modern...:huh: MLD has seen more action especially in M.E regions.

Do you even realize the complication of making such an aircraft? I already said it take 3-4 years to create a fighter module of single or twin seat. So how long would it take to create very complicated planes like Greyhound, C-130, S-3 Viking? All that heavy work for so little...:noexpression: You've shown me comment examples...but those are only VERY select few. MAJORITY would rather pick an F-4 Phantom over a S-3 viking anyday, if there was a choice.Undoubtedly, there would be more takers for F-4 Phantom. S-3 or Greyhound would cost even more coz the work complications of building that jets would surely tank the developers. DCS is already tanked with so many fighters in the pipeline to create a real complicated plane like C-2 Greyhound or S-3 for that matter. A B1B sounds interesting, though. Its complicated and pretty sure its going to cost, but I'd still buy that instead of maybe a C2 Greyhound and the C-130 which would also cost just the same. B-1B has MORE fun factor than C-2 and C-130... I would prefer they come MUCH later. You also forget the maps are not big enough to make good use of these planes. Its not X-Plane 11. There is the upcoming Microsoft Flight simulator 2020 coming and they are geared towards scenic long range flights.

Glad to hear you guys are alright!:thumbup:

Tejas has not even reached full series production. Its still too fresh and tests still seem to be ongoing. Chance of Tejas happening is VERY low...more like zero.

A typical fighter module usually take 2-3 years and sometimes even more. A mega complicated module like C-130 would take a LOT of HARDwork from the devs and only a VERY few purists would buy it. If its worth the returns for the HARDwork then it would be OK. Between an F-104 and C-130. There would be more sales for the F-104 than for the C-130. Question is, How long would take for such complicated modules to formulate? 4-5 years ? Would the HARDwork be worth the returns? AI updated models is better for now. Its already taking very long on that. Maybe much later. When DCS has long range maps, good ATC comms and the like

S3 Viking can happen LATER when DCS World is stable. The reason is, this plane would be VERY complicated to make as a flyable module, and only a few purists would buy it. DCS devs would not make much profit for their HARDwork on this. A module usually take 2-3 years. There are far more interesting aircrafts for example; like F-104, F-105 and the Tornado that would sell like hot cakes than this, more returns for their hard work. It already take quite a LOT of work and time to make a module and a 2 seater at that. S3 Viking is a 4 seater. It would be an absolute PAIN to develop and a lot more complicated systems. The A-6 has more chance than this. S 3 is better as an AI for now, an updated AI. S3 can happen MUCH later.

I believe the J-8 are almost completely replaced. Currently we only see reports of Chinese Sukhois and J-10s flying more near certain contested areas. The J-8 seem to almost completely be replaced by J-10 which is the actual mainstay aircraft of China at present. I believe J-8 could be possible as its almost fully phased out. Depends on the version, though... Its the JH-7 that seem more newer and is still in service.

Sure whatever works...But J-8 is certainly an interesting aircraft. We could always create What IF conflicts...It certainly will sell good. Why not the proper Mig 17 Itself? It was clearly used in more conflicts than the J-5. Vietnam used it too and the ME countries as well. Mig 17PF to be more specific. Hmm... lets see what Deka chooses. They have not given any hints on whats coming up next so far.

Cold start all the way. More immersion.

I could be wrong...but... I guess they need to introduce or prioritize modules that the MAJORITY would use than select few experts. More players, more sales, more profit. They could have delayed the Hind and prioritized the F-4 Phantom. There aren't many helo players unless you have the full setup of VR or TrackIR, the helos are difficult to fly, and fully utilize. Also not everyone has the ideal full setup. So until they get to a stability, they really need to prioritize what module gets more sales. For example: If they decide to make a S-3 Viking, B-1B or try a C-130 transport (Both have more than 3 seat and its complicated). There would only be a few takers and that would be the purists. Also, these modules require MORE work from them and effort than combat fighter modules, plu it would be very complicated. I certainly would not be inclined to buy a Viking...

Yup...one of the reason I never purchased Aggressor campaigns is coz the AI has BIG advantage over you in close combat. I stick with the other campaigns. The aggressor campaigns are just plain useless now. I doubt the AI would be improved anytime soon. We could expect that at 2022 and thats a long way. But till then they should apply some programmed restriction for AI on how long they could pull Gs and how many endless tight loops they does. Dogfights are hard here, the AI just mocks you...:ranting: