F-14D WIP

[Nyt3Stalk3r]

That would be awesome!!!! As for the model, I have a much more detailed and higher poly 3d model, the down downside is I haven't received permissions to use it

[Dutchy93]

Found this in a quick search. I don't know if this is of any help to you guys:

 

http://publicintelligence.net/u-s-navy-natops-f-14-tomcat-flight-manuals/

 

As a long time F14 fan I'll watch this thread closely. Good luck fellas!

[westr]

Hey guys. I had this thread in the DCS World wishlist and I am moving it here. I am happy to announce an F-14D Super Tomcat mod for the community! Its still in very earl stages but it is advancing quickly! Here are screens of it in progress! No pit shots yet as that is still in R&D. http://imgur.com/a/qcCNX#0 and here is our facebook page! https://www.facebook.com/f14dmod?ref=hl

 

My friend if you build a tomcat for DCS I shall forever be In you're debt. I love the Tomcat such an interesting and beautiful aeroplane.

[Angus]

GREAT !! a Tomcat D !!!:thumbup: Good job , keep the way !

 

Tell us more on the project .

 

 

PS: If it can serve you, I have F14D mod files to strike Fighters 2 its not LUA coding but if you want tell me .

[Roadrunner]

Yes, I would like to do testing.

BTW, do you have any detailed info of 14D?

To operate the wings, we can do something similar to Su-33 that the wing anime should have same ID, then use alt p or ctl p can operate the wings. Correct me if I were wrong

 

wrong.

 

the attributes for folding wings and sweeping wings are diffrent.

 

fold wings is attribute #8, while swep wing is #7

 

regards,

RR

Edited March 22, 2014 by Roadrunner

[SkateZilla]

wrong.

 

the attributes for folding wings and sweeping wings are diffrent.

 

fold wings is attribute #8, while swep wing is #7

 

list of attributes i know of:

 

0 - Nose Gear extend/retract

1 - Nose Gear bumping

2 - Nose Gear steering

3 - Right Landing Gear extend/retract

4 - Right Landing Gear bumping

5 - Left Landing Gear extend/retract

6 - Left Landing Gear bumping

7 - Swep Wing

8 - Fold Wings

9 - (Right) Flaps

10 - Left Flaps

11 - Right Aileron

12 - Left Aileron

13 - Right Slats

14 - Left Slats

15 - Right Elevator

16 - Left Elevator

17 - (Right) Rudder

18 - Left Rudder

19 -

20 -

21 - Airbrakes

22 - Refuel Boom

23 -

24 -

25 - Tailhook

26 -

27 -

28 - Right Engine Nozzle / Gate

29 - Left Engine Nozzle / Gate

30 -

31 - Running Number 1's

32 - Running Number 10's

33 - Mount Weapon ETC (mi-8 )

34 -

35 - Reverse Thrust Shields

36 - Rotor Blades movement up/down

37 -

38 - Canopy/Doors Open/Close

39 - Pilot Head Movement Left/Right

40 - Main Rotor

41 - Tail Rotor

42 -

43 - Left Cargo Door

44 - Right Cargo Door

45 -

46 -

47 -

48 -

49 - Position Lights

50 - Show Crew / remove crew

51 - Landing Lights

 

53 - Remove Main Rotor

 

65 - Canopy Damage (Mustang)

 

 

70 - Pilots Heads/Helmets

81 - AC-Tail off

86 - Main Cargo Door Aft open/close

99 - Pilot Head Movement up/down

114 - Remove/Show external Cockpit model

134 - Nose Wheel Tire on/off

135 - Main Gear Tires off/on

147 - Damage Nose, remove stuff

 

i.e. (right) rudder means, if a single rudder like F-16, it will move it, if two rudders like the hornet, it will move the right one.

 

regards,

RR

 

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=94553&d=1392680577

[Roadrunner]

didnt know about that PDF, thanks mate.

 

regards,

RR

[uboats]

wrong.

 

the attributes for folding wings and sweeping wings are diffrent.

 

fold wings is attribute #8, while swep wing is #7

 

regards,

RR

 

thanks.

So in the 3dmax, the animation should be assigned with the attribute ID correctly right?

[joey45]

yes.

[SkateZilla]

For Folding wings you need to set "Variable Geometry"

In the Data LUA it should be

wing_type = 1,

 

 

FIXED_WING = 0

VARIABLE_GEOMETRY = 1

FOLDED_WING = 2

VARIABLE_GEOMETRY_FOLDED = 3

[uboats]

For Folding wings you need to set "Variable Geometry"

In the Data LUA it should be

wing_type = 1,

 

did you mean swept wing?

 

data lua? can I set it up in entry.lua?

[Bountyhunter]

Pretty cool! TY!

[SkateZilla]

did you mean swept wing?

 

data lua? can I set it up in entry.lua?

 

Sorry, yeah, swept wings

(F-14, MIG-23, Tornado, etc etc)

[Nyt3Stalk3r]

So a little more progress has been made. I correctly positioned the second engine, added the engine exhaust, corrected wheel positioning a little and added the planes fuel load capacity and the planes weight. It fly's like a whole different beast!

[Nyt3Stalk3r]

Also, If anyone knows where one can obtain a table of lift and drag coefficients for this plane? I've been looking and reading for five hours now and nothing.

[Dutchy93]

Also, If anyone knows where one can obtain a table of lift and drag coefficients for this plane? I've been looking and reading for five hours now and nothing.

 

Isn't there a way to calculate this if the wingfoil is known?

I don't know how this is done for sure but with a simulation this should be doable if you have the right software....

 

And maybe you can be more specific about what you expect.

Anyone can throw in a table with Cl and Cd values but that might not be what you need.

Edited March 25, 2014 by Dutchy93

[BR55Sevas]

Also, If anyone knows where one can obtain a table of lift and drag coefficients for this plane? I've been looking and reading for five hours now and nothing.

 

Start with classic aerodynamic theory. Use wing geometry, wing elongation, and wing constriction to calculate Cl/daoa. Just try to search books bythis keywords. I think there are much free books with aerodyn.theory.

 

Even if we do not have real wing tunnel datas for plane, theory can produce very close approximation of final result, just knowing dimensions and wing shape.

Check my tests with mig29. All is possible, best wishes to your projects. Hope my video will motivate you to continue :-)

[Kiwiknight]

Thanks for your efforts, naval ops are nearer!!:thumbup:

[Nyt3Stalk3r]

Haha they are nearing indeed Kiwiknight! Initially plane is going to be pretty much civilian until we get everything like the flightmodel and pit in place! :D Right now, progress is a little slow due to a second job, but once I am accustomed to it, I'll start learning some coding to start work a flight model.

[SVKSniper]

Start with classic aerodynamic theory. Use wing geometry, wing elongation, and wing constriction to calculate Cl/daoa. Just try to search books bythis keywords. I think there are much free books with aerodyn.theory.

 

Even if we do not have real wing tunnel datas for plane, theory can produce very close approximation of final result, just knowing dimensions and wing shape.

Check my tests with mig29. All is possible, best wishes to your projects. Hope my video will motivate you to continue :-)

Nice video Sevas!!:thumbup:

Good luck Nyt3Stalk3r!;)

[Nyt3Stalk3r]

Haha, thanks! So far, data of any kind to be used in a flight model is quite hard to come by for this plane in particular. I have even reached out to some people here in my state who have a way of obtaining said data and they are coming up short as well..

[Slipp]

Do you plan to include A2G capability? Will FC3 be required?

 

Good luck with this project. :)

[Raven68]

I love your ambition Nyt3Stalk3r! :thumbup: You have my attention and support. I wish I had something tangible to offer, but the only thing for now is a cheering section. :) Good luck to you all and I love spirit of the community coming in to help where ever they can. You guys ROCK!!

[NineLine]

Haha, thanks! So far, data of any kind to be used in a flight model is quite hard to come by for this plane in particular. I have even reached out to some people here in my state who have a way of obtaining said data and they are coming up short as well..

 

Keep digging, the best information is almost never the easiest to find. Have you searched the National Archives, perhaps some of its been archived already? Dunno how that works, but might be worth a look... dunno.

[RagnarDa]

Haha, thanks! So far, data of any kind to be used in a flight model is quite hard to come by for this plane in particular. I have even reached out to some people here in my state who have a way of obtaining said data and they are coming up short as well..

Have you looked into OpenFOAM or any other CFD-solution? As a linux-neckbeard I have it installed on a VM but haven't gotten around to actually using it.